The Democrats are teaching us a lesson. Again.

I think it needs to be bipartisan so that both parties have skin in the game. And not one or two rebels.

Otherwise the status quo remains: Wild swings back and forth, non-stop sabotage. I don't see how that's a good thing.

What we're seeing almost certainly continues as long as we're satisfied with the status quo and choose to not fix the system.
What’s there to fix when one party sits on their hands? As far as I can tell, voters aren’t going to clear house so really the only thing that could allow for the free flow of ideas is eliminating the filibuster. That’s a whole other shitshow though.
 
The 50/50 vote is all there is. You haven’t seen McConnell state very clearly that there will not be a single Republican vote for anything?
I share your lament but not your blame. There is one party who is just not interested in governing even when they’re in power. The Republicans are in it for themselves and to build and protect their power. Nothing else matters. Not even default as long as the Dems get the blame. Pure malignant cynicism.

Enjoy your student loan forgiveness, "free college, and paid family leave! Oh, wait, never mind, that was all pulled because of your fellow DemoKKKrats.

LOL
 
What we're seeing almost certainly continues as long as we're satisfied with the status quo and choose to not fix the system.
Conservatives have very different ideas from the people you voted for in 2020

How would you bridge that gap?

So far your strategy has been total putdown of trump voters and their ideas

No wonder the left cant find common ground with the hated “deplorables”

You will have to radically change our ideas to conform with yours

Which could take generations of lib brainwashing in the public schools

And I doubt if the left is willing to wait that long
 
Pretty amazing, watching the Democrats turn their political advantage in a full scale circus like this. The current bill they're working on changes every 30 seconds or so, as Manchin and Sinema make them reduce or throw out more and more of Biden's agenda.

I'll give them credit, in that at least they're trying to fund their massive spending (unlike we saw in the previous administration), but they're having one helluva time getting their shit together, and it's playing out in public. And holy crap, is it ever awkward.

So we're seeing it yet again: The party in power trying to cram through its agenda with the thinnest of margins, only making itself look bad in the process while trying desperately to put lipstick on a pig. Right on cue. Over and over and over.

Why do we keep seeing this? Because communication, collaboration and innovation between the parties is no longer allowed. We've lost that capacity. We literally no longer know how to work together to deal with issues. We're no longer exceptional.

Will we learn this time? Will this be the time we finally wake up? Nope.


#ForwardParty
Soon it will be a $1 spending plan that will be "fully paid for, costing zero" and will be a tremendous success.
 
Pretty amazing, watching the Democrats turn their political advantage in a full scale circus like this. The current bill they're working on changes every 30 seconds or so, as Manchin and Sinema make them reduce or throw out more and more of Biden's agenda.

I'll give them credit, in that at least they're trying to fund their massive spending (unlike we saw in the previous administration), but they're having one helluva time getting their shit together, and it's playing out in public. And holy crap, is it ever awkward.

So we're seeing it yet again: The party in power trying to cram through its agenda with the thinnest of margins, only making itself look bad in the process while trying desperately to put lipstick on a pig. Right on cue. Over and over and over.

Why do we keep seeing this? Because communication, collaboration and innovation between the parties is no longer allowed. We've lost that capacity. We literally no longer know how to work together to deal with issues. We're no longer exceptional.

Will we learn this time? Will this be the time we finally wake up? Nope.


#ForwardParty
The gop is unified on the policy that tax cuts which actually create wealth inequality produce growth, despite that belief being disproven over and over. I don't think they are insane so much as simply lying about their motives.

The dems meanwhile think that a maj of Americans approve of simply giving people money for existing without working is popular or improves society, despite both being disproven over the past 40 or 50 years. I don't doubt their sincerity, but I doubt they actually understand human nature.

The difference is that the dem party still contains some "moderates." Lindsey Graham once was a moderate, as was collins. Maybe Murkowski. McCain's dead, as is Bob Bennett. Flake, Corker, Ensign, Snowe .... all long gone. Even Reagan would be tossed out.
 
Conservatives have very different ideas from the people you voted for in 2020

How would you bridge that gap?

So far your strategy has been total putdown of trump voters and their ideas

No wonder the left cant find common ground with the hated “deplorables”

You will have to radically change our ideas to conform with yours

Which could take generations of lib brainwashing in the public schools

And I doubt if the left is willing to wait that long
There are no conservatives in the gop. Social conservatives, yes. Racists, yes. But the dems have their own racists, and they have virtual socialists too.
 
The gop is unified on the policy that tax cuts which actually create wealth inequality produce growth, despite that belief being disproven over and over. I don't think they are insane so much as simply lying about their motives.

The dems meanwhile think that a maj of Americans approve of simply giving people money for existing without working is popular or improves society, despite both being disproven over the past 40 or 50 years. I don't doubt their sincerity, but I doubt they actually understand human nature.

The difference is that the dem party still contains some "moderates." Lindsey Graham once was a moderate, as was collins. Maybe Murkowski. McCain's dead, as is Bob Bennett. Flake, Corker, Ensign, Snowe .... all long gone. Even Reagan would be tossed out.
I agree, across the board. The notions of balance and equilibrium have been thrown out by both parties. While the two Democratic holdouts are causing problems for the party, at least they seem to get it.
 
Enjoy your student loan forgiveness, "free college, and paid family leave! Oh, wait, never mind, that was all pulled because of your fellow DemoKKKrats.

LOL
Great. There’s quite a lot of good for Americans that will proceed. No thanks to Republicans.
Do you believe that simply “owning the libs” is a winner in the long term?
 
There are no conservatives in the gop. Social conservatives, yes. Racists, yes. But the dems have their own racists, and they have virtual socialists too.
Fiscal conservatives exist in the GOP

But the argument against deficit spending has been rather difficult to prove so far

We just keep piling on more national debt and nothing really, REALLY bad happens

So what are the deficit hawks supposed to do?
 
I think it needs to be bipartisan so that both parties have skin in the game. And not one or two rebels.

Otherwise the status quo remains: Wild swings back and forth, non-stop sabotage. I don't see how that's a good thing.

What we're seeing almost certainly continues as long as we're satisfied with the status quo and choose to not fix the system.
Wouldn’t that be nice. Too bad Republicans don’t give a shit
 
What’s there to fix when one party sits on their hands? As far as I can tell, voters aren’t going to clear house so really the only thing that could allow for the free flow of ideas is eliminating the filibuster. That’s a whole other shitshow though.
Which Manchin and Sinema say they’ll block.

Are ya seeing a trend here?
 
Fiscal conservatives exist in the GOP

But the argument against deficit spending has been rather difficult to prove so far

We just keep piling on more national debt and nothing really, REALLY bad happens

So what are the deficit hawks supposed to do?
Fiscal conservatives in the GOP? Get real. They TALK ABOUT being that and then drive the debt up for tax cuts
 
Enjoy your student loan forgiveness, "free college, and paid family leave! Oh, wait, never mind, that was all pulled because of your fellow DemoKKKrats.

LOL
All of which were scrapped by… yea… Manchin and Sinema
 
Fiscal conservatives in the GOP? Get real. They TALK ABOUT being that and then drive the debt up for tax cuts
Historically modest tax cuts result in more federal tax income

See Kennedy, Reagan and even Bush43

The problem is spending keeps going up

I’m not sure about the Trump tax cut

If its not working as expected we can roll that back

But the problem as always remains too much spending
 
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