The Democrats are teaching us a lesson. Again.

And we need to change that… by electing more progressive Democrats so we aren’t dependent on dishonest corporate shills like him and Sinema
The last thing we need are more progressive democrats. We need more centrists who are willing to put what's good for the entire country over what’s good for them as individuals or for their party. The founders designed the government to operate on the basis of compromise to limit the damage extremeists of any stripe could do.
 
What’s there to fix when one party sits on their hands? As far as I can tell, voters aren’t going to clear house so really the only thing that could allow for the free flow of ideas is eliminating the filibuster. That’s a whole other shitshow though.
The filibuster is important because it forces compromise. Compromise is important.
 
The Biden' McConnell approach back in Obama's second term was more in line with "cut the inevitable increases in spending due to medicare and soc sec." The problem was less severe because not so many boomers retired, and now with the pandemic people are retiring earlier, we have fewer paying payroll taxes, and inflation .... maybe not so much except for food and petrol.

But Red Bernie and AOC will act like they're being raped if we even cut COLAs, and they want to expand the programs with deficit dollars because they want us to choose between retirement and natl defense ..... because they are appeasing socialists. And inevitably, we have to raise the age where workers can retire with full benefits.

I believe McConnell would have accepted maybe $1 in taxes for $3-4 in reduced future expenditures.
The problem with that is that’s what Tip O’Neil and the democrats promised both Reagan and Bush 1. After they got their tax increases they reneged on cutting spending. No sane person trusts democrat promises any more.
 
The problem with that is that’s what Tip O’Neil and the democrats promised both Reagan and Bush 1. After they got their tax increases they reneged on cutting spending. No sane person trusts democrat promises any more.
You mean politician promises.
 
The problem with that is that’s what Tip O’Neil and the democrats promised both Reagan and Bush 1. After they got their tax increases they reneged on cutting spending. No sane person trusts democrat promises any more.
Reagan never cut taxes. To be overly fair, he may have considered that we'd have a "peace dividend" it the cold war ended, but even if he knew that as bs, and my guess is he did, if spending is less than gnp growth the effect of deficits is less. And HW? get outta here. He raised taxes to pay for the S&L bailouts. But the govt actually got the money back when it sold off the property of the bankrupt S&Ls

But to compare them with today's gop .... they'd be thrown out. It's a bunch of thieves bought and paid for by several hundred very very rich people and social conservatives. Even the moderates were tossed out. This is all about the top 1%.
 
You can't freeze spending with more people drawing on medicare and soc sec everyday.... and the trend will continue for a decade or two.
You can certainly refrain from adding more wood to the pile, like $5 trillion in new spending.
 
A coal Barron could be expected to be a difficult sale on fossil fuel reductions. Manchin has a weakness though, and without sinema wouLd be much more amenable.

Sinema is the real issue. She ran as a Democrat to get elected, and now she's voting like a republican to get rich. She's already torched her political career, now she's just milking this for every penny she can before she has to go job hunting. But she has no handles and is getting millions in donations from big pharma and big oil to torpedo the Democratic legislation in question.
Wow, just look at the good little fascists in here…Dem Senators are all good unless they actually stand on their principles….Then the long knives come out…Lock step, or the highway.
 

Try harder bud...1855 was a long time ago...this sentiment falls on deaf ears as nobody even half sane believes that good real Americans benefit in ANY way from the presence of illegal thirdworlders...We are not in the building phase, we have a welfare mandate imposed on our best citizens, thirdworlders suck the taxpayer tit and commit violent crime at a rate comparable only to blacks...We don’t need one more dirty beanesr here...in fact, we need rid of about 100 million.

You people are still struggling with that little issue/word...ILLEGAL.
Have you lost the ability to reason? Let me teach you through story.

“Once upon a time an amazing family decided they would adopt children. They have four open bedrooms and can only afford to adopt four children. They took in four amazing children and then stopped adopting children.
THE END”

LefTard Logic:
What pieces of shits this family is....don't they know that once they start adopting they can never stop? We don't care that they can't afford to adopt anymore, we don't care that many they have adopted are filthy liabilities and tearing the family apart....DAMNIT...NEVER STOP ADOPTING!
Isn't that right LefTards?
 
Manchin represents a state that Biden couldn’t win one county in.

It’s fascinating to watch this crowd try to figure out how and why the country is such a complete mess. You complain about “corporatism” yet all the major corporations are firmly on the Dem’s side as they gleefully enact illegal mandates and fire employees during a huge labor shortage.
The Corporations are only on the Dem's side because the Republicans have completely lost their minds.


You can’t engineer the destruction of a nation faster than what this completely failed regime is doing. Higher energy costs, broken transportation sector, hospitals overrun while firing nurses for wrong think, and what little manufacturing we have people are walking off the job.
Wow... always trying to find the cloud, eh?


But hey, at least it’s not Orange Dictator, right?
Um, yeah. No riots in the streets.
No people dying in cold hospital corridors
No millions of people losing their jobs every week.
 
Pretty amazing, watching the Democrats turn their political advantage in a full scale circus like this. The current bill they're working on changes every 30 seconds or so, as Manchin and Sinema make them reduce or throw out more and more of Biden's agenda.

I'll give them credit, in that at least they're trying to fund their massive spending (unlike we saw in the previous administration), but they're having one helluva time getting their shit together, and it's playing out in public. And holy crap, is it ever awkward.

So we're seeing it yet again: The party in power trying to cram through its agenda with the thinnest of margins, only making itself look bad in the process while trying desperately to put lipstick on a pig. Right on cue. Over and over and over.

Why do we keep seeing this? Because communication, collaboration and innovation between the parties is no longer allowed. We've lost that capacity. We literally no longer know how to work together to deal with issues. We're no longer exceptional.

Will we learn this time? Will this be the time we finally wake up? Nope.


#ForwardParty
The Democrats can't work with Democrats because Joe Manchin won't let Biden and Pelosi f* our kids' and grandkids' future for self-serving pork and leftist extremists bullshit now
 
Pretty amazing, watching the Democrats turn their political advantage in a full scale circus like this. The current bill they're working on changes every 30 seconds or so, as Manchin and Sinema make them reduce or throw out more and more of Biden's agenda.

I'll give them credit, in that at least they're trying to fund their massive spending (unlike we saw in the previous administration), but they're having one helluva time getting their shit together, and it's playing out in public. And holy crap, is it ever awkward.

So we're seeing it yet again: The party in power trying to cram through its agenda with the thinnest of margins, only making itself look bad in the process while trying desperately to put lipstick on a pig. Right on cue. Over and over and over.

Why do we keep seeing this? Because communication, collaboration and innovation between the parties is no longer allowed. We've lost that capacity. We literally no longer know how to work together to deal with issues. We're no longer exceptional.

Will we learn this time? Will this be the time we finally wake up? Nope.


#ForwardParty

Lol, trying to fund a worthless 3.5 trillion dollar bill. Tax everyone at 90 percent, create more oppression, poverty, eliminate middle class. Yeah, we're seeing a freak show and they're trying to cram worthless stuff through. There is no reason to acknowledge or recognize either of these worthless parties. They are both antithetical to america and a danger to the state.
 
Then maybe you should stop living like the weakest idiots of 1855, you filthy cockroach.

...said the Know Nothings in the 1800s.

...said the Know Nothings.

We need rid every filthy coward cockroach like YOU.
All you have to do is show us the data you must have....show us how illegals advance, improve and enhance America for core Americans. That should be a very simple task for you.
Also, tell us....how many illegals are too many illegals...what's the magic number?
Good luck
 
Wow, just look at the good little fascists in here…Dem Senators are all good unless they actually stand on their principles….Then the long knives come out…Lock step, or the highway.
She isn't standing on anything. She just there with her hand out.
 

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