The Death Penalty---OP/ED

[Conservative65]

The liberals argument against the Death Penalty is that it doesn't deter future criminals from doing harm to others(Deterent). I agree that this may not factor in, but it does stop one thing for sure..... THE REPEAT OFFENDER WHO HAS A RAP SHEET A MILE LONG. When a rabid animal bites a human, do they put it in a cage and take care it for the rest of its life? Nope they take it out back and destroy it.

If the family cant deal with their dead executed son/daughter, then they NEED TO KEEP THEIR KIDS from growing up EVIL.

People aren't animals. By your logic, we should euthanize old people because that's what we do to animals when they get too old.

Actually, we are animals.

People on the left have pushed for such things for a long time.

 

[JoeB131]

Not unless you're man enough to take them from me. If you make that mistake, you're screwed. If you don't, then you're just another pussy that says something shouldn't occur yet scared to do anything about it.

agian, guy, if you think you can take on well-trained ATF agents, have at it.

When you get to the infernal regions, you and David Koresh can have a chat about what a bad idea that was.

11 years of wasted taxpayer money.

The Constitution says otherwise so what you think really doesn't matter.

The Army got exactly what it wanted out of me, and vice-versa... so no.

And Scalia's taking a dirt nap, so the 2nd Amendment is going to be about Militia's again.

Oh, another one that doesn't believe in God and what the Bible says trying to tell the rest of us what it means. Don't work that boy, retard.

I just point out that the people in the Bible didn't kill people for having abortions, so they didn't treat it like Murder or even having gay sex.

In fact, you wuold be hard pressed to find any verse in the bible that restricts abortion.

 

[Conservative65]

Not unless you're man enough to take them from me. If you make that mistake, you're screwed. If you don't, then you're just another pussy that says something shouldn't occur yet scared to do anything about it.

agian, guy, if you think you can take on well-trained ATF agents, have at it.

When you get to the infernal regions, you and David Koresh can have a chat about what a bad idea that was.

11 years of wasted taxpayer money.

The Constitution says otherwise so what you think really doesn't matter.

The Army got exactly what it wanted out of me, and vice-versa... so no.

And Scalia's taking a dirt nap, so the 2nd Amendment is going to be about Militia's again.

Oh, another one that doesn't believe in God and what the Bible says trying to tell the rest of us what it means. Don't work that boy, retard.

I just point out that the people in the Bible didn't kill people for having abortions, so they didn't treat it like Murder or even having gay sex.

In fact, you wuold be hard pressed to find any verse in the bible that restricts abortion.

I want YOU to do what you say needs to be done. Didn't think you had the guts so it's apparent the Army didn't get out of you what it costs them.

Like I said, someone that doesn't believe in God and the Bible shouldn't be using it. It invalidates your argument as if your argument alone doesn't invalidate itself.

 

[Conservative65]

Not unless you're man enough to take them from me. If you make that mistake, you're screwed. If you don't, then you're just another pussy that says something shouldn't occur yet scared to do anything about it.

agian, guy, if you think you can take on well-trained ATF agents, have at it.

When you get to the infernal regions, you and David Koresh can have a chat about what a bad idea that was.

11 years of wasted taxpayer money.

The Constitution says otherwise so what you think really doesn't matter.

The Army got exactly what it wanted out of me, and vice-versa... so no.

And Scalia's taking a dirt nap, so the 2nd Amendment is going to be about Militia's again.

Oh, another one that doesn't believe in God and what the Bible says trying to tell the rest of us what it means. Don't work that boy, retard.

I just point out that the people in the Bible didn't kill people for having abortions, so they didn't treat it like Murder or even having gay sex.

In fact, you wuold be hard pressed to find any verse in the bible that restricts abortion.

It's quite obvious you're scared of guns. Your cowardly fear isn't a reason for the rest of us not to own them. Face facts, pussy. Own up to it.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

Why is it a ton of leftists here claim to be military? Probably because this is an anonymous site and they know they can lie about it.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

The liberals argument against the Death Penalty is that it doesn't deter future criminals from doing harm to others(Deterent). I agree that this may not factor in, but it does stop one thing for sure..... THE REPEAT OFFENDER WHO HAS A RAP SHEET A MILE LONG. When a rabid animal bites a human, do they put it in a cage and take care it for the rest of its life? Nope they take it out back and destroy it.

If the family cant deal with their dead executed son/daughter, then they NEED TO KEEP THEIR KIDS from growing up EVIL.

People aren't animals. By your logic, we should euthanize old people because that's what we do to animals when they get too old.

Only liberal execute babies in or out of the womb. Liberals also execute their parents for bringing their sorry asses into the world, for which they hate their parents to no end. Yes we are all animals, but conservatives use their FREE WILL and moral values, not to go out and take another persons life, unless that person is trying to do my family or me harm. Joe you are just a sorry excuse of the typical liberal human being, should of been aborted by you mother while you were still a peanut sized fetus, but oh well, the doctor sure did fuck up when you slipped by...

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Not unless you're man enough to take them from me. If you make that mistake, you're screwed. If you don't, then you're just another pussy that says something shouldn't occur yet scared to do anything about it.

agian, guy, if you think you can take on well-trained ATF agents, have at it.

When you get to the infernal regions, you and David Koresh can have a chat about what a bad idea that was.

11 years of wasted taxpayer money.

The Constitution says otherwise so what you think really doesn't matter.

The Army got exactly what it wanted out of me, and vice-versa... so no.

And Scalia's taking a dirt nap, so the 2nd Amendment is going to be about Militia's again.

Oh, another one that doesn't believe in God and what the Bible says trying to tell the rest of us what it means. Don't work that boy, retard.

I just point out that the people in the Bible didn't kill people for having abortions, so they didn't treat it like Murder or even having gay sex.

In fact, you wuold be hard pressed to find any verse in the bible that restricts abortion.

You libidiots didn't think that the rancher in Nevada would stand up to the BLM, that Harry Reid put on him, yet when 1000 friends and patriots showed up to defend him the BLM decided better. Joe you remind me of Japan, and how well they thought to push the US. So the ATF has about 100,000 agents. Wont look good going up against 10,000,000 pissed off US citizens.

 

[Conservative65]

Why is it a ton of leftists here claim to be military? Probably because this is an anonymous site and they know they can lie about it.

I had one yesterday tell me he was cadre at the jump tower at Ft. Benning. He's yet to prove it.

 

[BULLDOG]

Don't care. The ONLY thing that matters is the one that is being executed is getting what he/she deserved for what he/she did.

Even if the one being executed is innocent and the guilty one is still free?

Hence my original post that capital cases should be held to a higher standard than merely beyond a reasonable doubt and must include irrefutable forensic evidence interpreted by experts not some random idiot off the streets

BULLshitDOG is just like the rest of the anti death penalty bleeding hearts. He argues that his problem with the death penalty is that innocents get executed implying that if there were a way to stop that, he'd support it. However, when things are suggested or conditions suggested that would make sure that doesn't happen, he still opposes it. I understand people don't like it but they should at least be honest and say that.

The thing about the "innocents" is that maybe they didn't commit the crimes, but rarely are they pillars of their communities. Typically they are like the dude JoeB mentioned. Thugs and gang bangers whose absence from society is not really a bad thing. The better case to look at to argue against the DP would be the West Memphis three. How that went could largely be blamed on the media and the stylish fad of being scared of devil worshippers in those days and a DA more motivated by climbing the career ladder then despencing justice. Still, the death penalty is worth it.

I don't disagree that innocents have been executed. However, despite how bad that is, it's nowhere near the level that those arguing from that point of view make it out. Their arguments against it center around innocents being executed when their true argument is that they oppose it period. It's easy to tell when suggestions are made to prevent and stop the only reason they give for opposing it. Even when that is done, they still oppose it.

Pretty quick to call someone a liar there aren't you bubba?. There are lots of reasons to oppose the death penalty.The main one is that no matter how much you talk about a higher standard, we just don't have the capability to be sure in all cases, and I don't like the idea of killing some innocent person while the guilty goes free just because someone must be punished. Perhaps life just doesn't mean much to you.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

The death penalty is way too kind for many of those animals........

Hard labor, and solitary confinement and psychological stress techniques work for me...lol

 

[Conservative65]

Even if the one being executed is innocent and the guilty one is still free?

Hence my original post that capital cases should be held to a higher standard than merely beyond a reasonable doubt and must include irrefutable forensic evidence interpreted by experts not some random idiot off the streets

BULLshitDOG is just like the rest of the anti death penalty bleeding hearts. He argues that his problem with the death penalty is that innocents get executed implying that if there were a way to stop that, he'd support it. However, when things are suggested or conditions suggested that would make sure that doesn't happen, he still opposes it. I understand people don't like it but they should at least be honest and say that.

The thing about the "innocents" is that maybe they didn't commit the crimes, but rarely are they pillars of their communities. Typically they are like the dude JoeB mentioned. Thugs and gang bangers whose absence from society is not really a bad thing. The better case to look at to argue against the DP would be the West Memphis three. How that went could largely be blamed on the media and the stylish fad of being scared of devil worshippers in those days and a DA more motivated by climbing the career ladder then despencing justice. Still, the death penalty is worth it.

I don't disagree that innocents have been executed. However, despite how bad that is, it's nowhere near the level that those arguing from that point of view make it out. Their arguments against it center around innocents being executed when their true argument is that they oppose it period. It's easy to tell when suggestions are made to prevent and stop the only reason they give for opposing it. Even when that is done, they still oppose it.

Pretty quick to call someone a liar there aren't you bubba?. There are lots of reasons to oppose the death penalty.The main one is that no matter how much you talk about a higher standard, we just don't have the capability to be sure in all cases, and I don't like the idea of killing some innocent person while the guilty goes free just because someone must be punished. Perhaps life just doesn't mean much to you.

It was easy with you, liar.

Ironic how someone that says I don't care much for innocent life doesn't have a problem with women aborting innocent life.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Even if the one being executed is innocent and the guilty one is still free?

Hence my original post that capital cases should be held to a higher standard than merely beyond a reasonable doubt and must include irrefutable forensic evidence interpreted by experts not some random idiot off the streets

BULLshitDOG is just like the rest of the anti death penalty bleeding hearts. He argues that his problem with the death penalty is that innocents get executed implying that if there were a way to stop that, he'd support it. However, when things are suggested or conditions suggested that would make sure that doesn't happen, he still opposes it. I understand people don't like it but they should at least be honest and say that.

The thing about the "innocents" is that maybe they didn't commit the crimes, but rarely are they pillars of their communities. Typically they are like the dude JoeB mentioned. Thugs and gang bangers whose absence from society is not really a bad thing. The better case to look at to argue against the DP would be the West Memphis three. How that went could largely be blamed on the media and the stylish fad of being scared of devil worshippers in those days and a DA more motivated by climbing the career ladder then despencing justice. Still, the death penalty is worth it.

I don't disagree that innocents have been executed. However, despite how bad that is, it's nowhere near the level that those arguing from that point of view make it out. Their arguments against it center around innocents being executed when their true argument is that they oppose it period. It's easy to tell when suggestions are made to prevent and stop the only reason they give for opposing it. Even when that is done, they still oppose it.

Pretty quick to call someone a liar there aren't you bubba?. There are lots of reasons to oppose the death penalty.The main one is that no matter how much you talk about a higher standard, we just don't have the capability to be sure in all cases, and I don't like the idea of killing some innocent person while the guilty goes free just because someone must be punished. Perhaps life just doesn't mean much to you.

Well you are a liar didn't you say I "always support republican policies"?

That was a lie now wasn't it?

 

[BULLDOG]

Hence my original post that capital cases should be held to a higher standard than merely beyond a reasonable doubt and must include irrefutable forensic evidence interpreted by experts not some random idiot off the streets

BULLshitDOG is just like the rest of the anti death penalty bleeding hearts. He argues that his problem with the death penalty is that innocents get executed implying that if there were a way to stop that, he'd support it. However, when things are suggested or conditions suggested that would make sure that doesn't happen, he still opposes it. I understand people don't like it but they should at least be honest and say that.

The thing about the "innocents" is that maybe they didn't commit the crimes, but rarely are they pillars of their communities. Typically they are like the dude JoeB mentioned. Thugs and gang bangers whose absence from society is not really a bad thing. The better case to look at to argue against the DP would be the West Memphis three. How that went could largely be blamed on the media and the stylish fad of being scared of devil worshippers in those days and a DA more motivated by climbing the career ladder then despencing justice. Still, the death penalty is worth it.

I don't disagree that innocents have been executed. However, despite how bad that is, it's nowhere near the level that those arguing from that point of view make it out. Their arguments against it center around innocents being executed when their true argument is that they oppose it period. It's easy to tell when suggestions are made to prevent and stop the only reason they give for opposing it. Even when that is done, they still oppose it.

Pretty quick to call someone a liar there aren't you bubba?. There are lots of reasons to oppose the death penalty.The main one is that no matter how much you talk about a higher standard, we just don't have the capability to be sure in all cases, and I don't like the idea of killing some innocent person while the guilty goes free just because someone must be punished. Perhaps life just doesn't mean much to you.

Well you are a liar didn't you say I "always support republican policies"?

That was a lie now wasn't it?

Sorry, but you just aren't important enough for me to keep up with your every nuance on every issue. The preponderance of your posts say you are a right winger who supports right winger causes.

 

[Conservative65]

BULLshitDOG is just like the rest of the anti death penalty bleeding hearts. He argues that his problem with the death penalty is that innocents get executed implying that if there were a way to stop that, he'd support it. However, when things are suggested or conditions suggested that would make sure that doesn't happen, he still opposes it. I understand people don't like it but they should at least be honest and say that.

The thing about the "innocents" is that maybe they didn't commit the crimes, but rarely are they pillars of their communities. Typically they are like the dude JoeB mentioned. Thugs and gang bangers whose absence from society is not really a bad thing. The better case to look at to argue against the DP would be the West Memphis three. How that went could largely be blamed on the media and the stylish fad of being scared of devil worshippers in those days and a DA more motivated by climbing the career ladder then despencing justice. Still, the death penalty is worth it.

I don't disagree that innocents have been executed. However, despite how bad that is, it's nowhere near the level that those arguing from that point of view make it out. Their arguments against it center around innocents being executed when their true argument is that they oppose it period. It's easy to tell when suggestions are made to prevent and stop the only reason they give for opposing it. Even when that is done, they still oppose it.

Pretty quick to call someone a liar there aren't you bubba?. There are lots of reasons to oppose the death penalty.The main one is that no matter how much you talk about a higher standard, we just don't have the capability to be sure in all cases, and I don't like the idea of killing some innocent person while the guilty goes free just because someone must be punished. Perhaps life just doesn't mean much to you.

Well you are a liar didn't you say I "always support republican policies"?

That was a lie now wasn't it?

Sorry, but you just aren't important enough for me to keep up with your every nuance on every issue. The preponderance of your posts say you are a right winger who supports right winger causes.

All of your posts say you're the typical left winger that parrots what his handlers tell him to say. It doesn't take but one utterance by the moron you call President before the rest of you fight your way to the front of the line to kiss his ass by repeating what he said. Pucker up and eat the chocolate.

 

[BULLDOG]

The thing about the "innocents" is that maybe they didn't commit the crimes, but rarely are they pillars of their communities. Typically they are like the dude JoeB mentioned. Thugs and gang bangers whose absence from society is not really a bad thing. The better case to look at to argue against the DP would be the West Memphis three. How that went could largely be blamed on the media and the stylish fad of being scared of devil worshippers in those days and a DA more motivated by climbing the career ladder then despencing justice. Still, the death penalty is worth it.

I don't disagree that innocents have been executed. However, despite how bad that is, it's nowhere near the level that those arguing from that point of view make it out. Their arguments against it center around innocents being executed when their true argument is that they oppose it period. It's easy to tell when suggestions are made to prevent and stop the only reason they give for opposing it. Even when that is done, they still oppose it.

Pretty quick to call someone a liar there aren't you bubba?. There are lots of reasons to oppose the death penalty.The main one is that no matter how much you talk about a higher standard, we just don't have the capability to be sure in all cases, and I don't like the idea of killing some innocent person while the guilty goes free just because someone must be punished. Perhaps life just doesn't mean much to you.

Well you are a liar didn't you say I "always support republican policies"?

That was a lie now wasn't it?

Sorry, but you just aren't important enough for me to keep up with your every nuance on every issue. The preponderance of your posts say you are a right winger who supports right winger causes.

All of your posts say you're the typical left winger that parrots what his handlers tell him to say. It doesn't take but one utterance by the moron you call President before the rest of you fight your way to the front of the line to kiss his ass by repeating what he said. Pucker up and eat the chocolate.

I suppose I am a typical left winger. My beliefs come from the best information I can gather and my own view of the world. I don't need anyone, especially someone like Hannity or rush to tell me what to think.

 

[Conservative65]

I don't disagree that innocents have been executed. However, despite how bad that is, it's nowhere near the level that those arguing from that point of view make it out. Their arguments against it center around innocents being executed when their true argument is that they oppose it period. It's easy to tell when suggestions are made to prevent and stop the only reason they give for opposing it. Even when that is done, they still oppose it.

Pretty quick to call someone a liar there aren't you bubba?. There are lots of reasons to oppose the death penalty.The main one is that no matter how much you talk about a higher standard, we just don't have the capability to be sure in all cases, and I don't like the idea of killing some innocent person while the guilty goes free just because someone must be punished. Perhaps life just doesn't mean much to you.

Well you are a liar didn't you say I "always support republican policies"?

That was a lie now wasn't it?

Sorry, but you just aren't important enough for me to keep up with your every nuance on every issue. The preponderance of your posts say you are a right winger who supports right winger causes.

All of your posts say you're the typical left winger that parrots what his handlers tell him to say. It doesn't take but one utterance by the moron you call President before the rest of you fight your way to the front of the line to kiss his ass by repeating what he said. Pucker up and eat the chocolate.

I suppose I am a typical left winger. My beliefs come from the best information I can gather and my own view of the world. I don't need anyone, especially someone like Hannity or rush to tell me what to think.

You just let another unqualified black in a government job that got elected primarily due to his skin color tell you.

 

[JoeB131]

I want YOU to do what you say needs to be done. Didn't think you had the guts so it's apparent the Army didn't get out of you what it costs them.

my job in the army was not "Separating INbred assholes from their guns.

[QUOTE="Conservative65, post: 14522108, member: 51891"Like I said, someone that doesn't believe in God and the Bible shouldn't be using it. It invalidates your argument as if your argument alone doesn't invalidate itself.[/QUOTE]

Actually, the bible invalidates itself, but duly noted you could not find a verse that supports your position.

 

[Conservative65]

I want YOU to do what you say needs to be done. Didn't think you had the guts so it's apparent the Army didn't get out of you what it costs them.

my job in the army was not "Separating INbred assholes from their guns.

[QUOTE="Conservative65, post: 14522108, member: 51891"Like I said, someone that doesn't believe in God and the Bible shouldn't be using it. It invalidates your argument as if your argument alone doesn't invalidate itself.

Actually, the bible invalidates itself, but duly noted you could not find a verse that supports your position.[/QUOTE]

You had KP duty and was a latrine orderly. Basically, a potato peeler and a shit/piss cleaner.

It's duly noted that when you, someone that doesn't adhere to the Bible, tries to say what it means, there is no need to refute with a verse. Your lack of knowledge is sufficient.

 

[JoeB131]

You had KP duty and was a latrine orderly. Basically, a potato peeler and a shit/piss cleaner.

Actually, I was a Supply NCO...

and obviously , you are too stupid to realize no one peels potatoes anymore, right?

It's duly noted that when you, someone that doesn't adhere to the Bible, tries to say what it means, there is no need to refute with a verse. Your lack of knowledge is sufficient.

You Wingnuts claim to understand what the Koran says, even though you don't think that's real.

I've actually bothered to read it.

 

[Skull Pilot]

BULLshitDOG is just like the rest of the anti death penalty bleeding hearts. He argues that his problem with the death penalty is that innocents get executed implying that if there were a way to stop that, he'd support it. However, when things are suggested or conditions suggested that would make sure that doesn't happen, he still opposes it. I understand people don't like it but they should at least be honest and say that.

The thing about the "innocents" is that maybe they didn't commit the crimes, but rarely are they pillars of their communities. Typically they are like the dude JoeB mentioned. Thugs and gang bangers whose absence from society is not really a bad thing. The better case to look at to argue against the DP would be the West Memphis three. How that went could largely be blamed on the media and the stylish fad of being scared of devil worshippers in those days and a DA more motivated by climbing the career ladder then despencing justice. Still, the death penalty is worth it.

I don't disagree that innocents have been executed. However, despite how bad that is, it's nowhere near the level that those arguing from that point of view make it out. Their arguments against it center around innocents being executed when their true argument is that they oppose it period. It's easy to tell when suggestions are made to prevent and stop the only reason they give for opposing it. Even when that is done, they still oppose it.

Pretty quick to call someone a liar there aren't you bubba?. There are lots of reasons to oppose the death penalty.The main one is that no matter how much you talk about a higher standard, we just don't have the capability to be sure in all cases, and I don't like the idea of killing some innocent person while the guilty goes free just because someone must be punished. Perhaps life just doesn't mean much to you.

Well you are a liar didn't you say I "always support republican policies"?

That was a lie now wasn't it?

Sorry, but you just aren't important enough for me to keep up with your every nuance on every issue. The preponderance of your posts say you are a right winger who supports right winger causes.

And you're an idiot for making assumptions aren't you?