The 'Classified' Documents DOJ / FBI Raid Targeted ARE ALREADY UNCLASSIFIED...& They Knew It

[konradv]

Wrong.
Presidents and VPs by statute have complete and total discretion to do what ever they want with classified docs. They can give out unclassified copies to whomever they want, and the originals created by different agencies can remain classified.
Presidents and VPs do not have to "inform" anyone of anything they do, regarding classified docs.

Hardly the truth or Biden wouldn't have been so forthcoming with info on the docs he still held, in stark contrast to the secrecy and lies of the Trump administration.

 

[MagicMike]

Wrong.
Presidents and VPs by statute have complete and total discretion to do what ever they want with classified docs. They can give out unclassified copies to whomever they want, and the originals created by different agencies can remain classified.
Presidents and VPs do not have to "inform" anyone of anything they do, regarding classified docs.

Wrong!
You are thinking of kings.

 

[jc456]

Virtually none of the above is true

Start at 5:20

 

[jc456]

Wrong.
Presidents and VPs by statute have complete and total discretion to do what ever they want with classified docs. They can give out unclassified copies to whomever they want, and the originals created by different agencies can remain classified.
Presidents and VPs do not have to "inform" anyone of anything they do, regarding classified docs.

Only president

 

[Hutch Starskey]

1. It is obvious no President should be able to take classified documents with them when they leave office.

2. When Trump left he left as PRESIDENT, someone with the authority to declassify documents. Biden left as a VICE Presidrnt, having NO authority to declassify anything.


3. When Trump left and took documents it was for a very short time, and there was a Chain of Custody established through the Secret Service.

With Biden, he divided up his documents, sent them to numerous locations - all of which we don't even know, moved them numerous times, and there was never any Chain of Custody AND no visitor logs kept on the UNSECURE locations where Biden kept his classified documents.

THAT means we don't know who had access to the TS/SCI documents during the year beletween the time Biden left the WH & classified Was moved into the Penn-Biden-ChiCom center a year later. (Where were the TS/SCI documrnts during that year, and who had access to them?)

THAT means we don't know who had access to the TS/SCI documents while they sat in the closet if Biden's private office in the Penn-Biden-ChiCom center for the last 5 years!

THAT means we have no clue who had access to the TS/SCI documents sitting in Biden's garage next to his corvette or in the 3rd location, in his house for the last 5 years.

THAT means we have no clue who has had access to the remaining classified documents his aides and DOJ are still looking for.


We went through this before with Hillary's crimes and again with Trump's classified issue, but it is evident we need to go over it again:

TS/SCI - TOP SECRET COMPARTMENTALIZED INFORMATION - is the HIGHEST classification level for classified information in the US. It is for information that has the highest classification sensitivity there is, information that could do grave damage to the US if released.

This information can ONLY be held, viewed, and discussed in designated, cleared, 'vaults' known as SCIFs, Special Compartmentalized Information Facilities.

The information can NOT be TAKEN OUT of these facilities. This information can NOT be DISCUSSED outside of these facilities.

People given access to this information are 'read-into' specific compartmentalized info / programs - being read-into a SCI program does not give you access to ALL SCI prohrams / info.

When you are read-into the SCI program you are briefed on all strict security laws/regs/etc... governing this classification of data. You must sign a document saying you understand everything you were briefed and agree to it.

When you no longer have a need to have access - as in leaving and no longer being Sect of State, Vice Pres, etc... - you are read-out of the TS/SCI program.

At that time you are debriefed, informed from that point on you can no longer have access to any of the TS/SCI info, you can not possess any TS/SCI info, you can never legally speak about the TS/SCI info you had access to, can not use any of the info in memoirs, books you plan to write, etc...

Again, after being debriefed all of this you are required to sign a document stating you understand all of that and that you agree to comply with all of it.

1. This is why Comey's defense of Hillary Clinton, declaring she was 'too stupid to know she was breaking laws' to justify not indicting her for having TS/SCI info, was such BULLSHIT! When Hillary left the Sect of State job she was read-out of the SCI program, fully debriefed, and she signed the document stating she understood all of it and that she was legally bound to comply. SHE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT SHE WAS DOING.

2. Part of Joe Biden's defense, besides being a brain-dead idiot, is 'INADVERTENT taking of TS/SCI Classified documents'. There is NO SUCH THING! As was the case with Hillary, Biden was read-out of the SCI program, fully debriefed, and signed the same document Hillary did. BIDEN ALSO KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING WHEN HE TOOK THESE TS/SCI DOCUMENTS CONTAINING CLEAR 'TS/SCI' MARKINGS!

3. Trump's case is slighly more (or less) complicated since, unlike the other 2, he was / is a former President, giving him the authority to declassify documents.

-- The on-going investigation will tell if he did or not do so. Trump reportedy ordered the FBI to declassify all Crossfire Hurricane documents, which they did not / refused to do. Some say this is false. If this is false, why have the courts allowed FOIA lawsuits SEEKING Crossfire Hurricane info against the FBI go forward (which the FBI still refuses to comply with)? FOIA requests can only be filed against / for unclassified / declassified information. That means the Crossfire Hurricane docs had to be declassified OR the FOIA requests were filed based on Trump's order to the FBI to declassify them....but this is for another thread topic.

Biden is completely LEGALLY (not partisanly) screwed for taking TS/SCI documenys illegally, for illegally transporting them, and for illegally storing them in an UNSECURED NON-SCIF, for having no clue where all the documents were / are for 6 years, and having no Chain of Custody to be able to tell who had access to some of the nation's highest sensitive classified information.

Show us when, where and how Trump declassified any of those docs.

 

[easyt65]

Show us when, where and how Trump declassified any of those docs.

I did not say he did. Work on your reading comprehension and read it again.

I said Trump had the authority to do so where Biden never did.

 

[westwall]

Show us when, where and how Trump declassified any of those docs.

Show us he didn't.

DURRRRRR

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I did not say he did. Work on your reading comprehension and read it again.

I said Trump had the authority to do so where Biden never did.

simply suggesting something is possible does not make it so, dope.

Your speculative drivel is just that.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Show us he didn't.

DURRRRRR

Derp…

 

[westwall]

Derp…

Excellent self description for you.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Excellent self description for you.

Why do you bother?

 

[Care4all]

Wrong.

The 2 impeachments were over Russian election collusion and over the Ukraine investigation request to Zelensky. There is nothing about Jan 6.

Biden can NOT "reclassify" that which another president or VP has declassified.
Presidents and VPs both are totally above and immune to all classified doc statutes, and that is in perpetuity.

Nope! The first impeachment was the quid pro quo attempt with Zelensky for a created Biden scandal,

and the second impeachment was for his 1/6 attempted self coup/ inciting a riot/ dereliction of duty...., to illegally keep himself in power.

He was never impeached for his obstruction of justice with the Russia investigators, or for anything to do with Russia's interference in the 2016 election.

Either presidents can do whatever they want with classified info, even pass them on to our enemies according TO YOU.... then President Biden CAN classify docs again that had been declassified....

 

[Rigby5]

Hardly the truth or Biden wouldn't have been so forthcoming with info on the docs he still held, in stark contrast to the secrecy and lies of the Trump administration.

The Biden group had already determined what they were claiming when they attacked Trump, so they no longer had any option but to claim it was illegal but unintentional.
When in reality neither Biden nor Trump could possibly have committed any sort of classified doc crime. It literally would have been impossible.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The Biden group had already determined what they were claiming when they attacked Trump, so they no longer had any option but to claim it was illegal but unintentional.
When in reality neither Biden nor Trump could possibly have committed any sort of classified doc crime. It literally would have been impossible.

Hence the warrant and subsequent seizures.

 

[easyt65]

simply suggesting something is possible does not make it so, dope.

Your speculative drivel is just that.

Again, I simply stated facts. Presidents have the authority to declassify documents. Vice Presidents do not.

I never said or suggested that is what happened.

Do all snowflakes have such poor reading comprehension levels?

 

[sparky]

So, it appears the same 'classified document' setup they pulled on Trump was imparted on Biden ?

~S~

 

[easyt65]

So, it appears the same 'classified document' setup they pulled on Trump was imparted on Biden ?

~S~

Hardly!

Biden's is nothing like Trump's and far worse ... in every way.

 

[sparky]

Hardly!

Biden's is nothing like Trump's and far worse ... in every way.

well i guess i just don't understand the dif easy....~S~

 

[Lesh]

Hardly!

Biden's is nothing like Trump's and far worse ... in every way.

Was a warrant required to retrieve docs from Biden?

No?

Oh

 

[Thinker101]

Was a warrant required to retrieve docs from Biden?

No?

Oh

No need to point out how much of a political pawn the DOJ has become, we already knew.