The 'Classified' Documents DOJ / FBI Raid Targeted ARE ALREADY UNCLASSIFIED...& They Knew It

As reported and I have pointed out repeatedly, President Trump is the DECLASSIFYING AGENT for all of the classified documents he intended to tale with him when he left office / the WH.

That means he could- AND DID - personally declassify all of the documents he took with him BEFORE HE LEFT.

“Trump declassified whole sets of materials in anticipation of leaving government that he thought the American public should have the right to read themselves.”

Once declassified, the documents markings must be updated, which takes time to do. Once the documents have been declassified, however, the declassification is recorded and the process of updating the markings begin. The documents, however, remain 'Unclassified'.

It is being reported that the DOJ and FBI wanted to raid / collect the UNCLASS documents whose markings had not been fully updated and potentially charge Trump with having classified documents.

“The White House counsel failed to generate the paperwork to change the classification markings, but that doesn’t mean the information wasn’t declassified."

THERE IS NO CRIME

THERE ARE NO CLASSIFIED DOCS

The WH Counsel was aware of the declassification of the documents - its on record.

The DOJ was aware of the documents being declassified because Trump's team was already working with them on it and had turned over 15 boxes of documents voluntarily to have them checked out!

The FBI LIED AGAIN, claimi h Trump had taken CLASSIFIED docu.ents, which was already on record and communicated as NOT the case.

There was no need for a search warrant.

There was no need for an historic, unprecedented edented, dangerous political raid.

It's all being reported....

....but let's see how Garland, Wray, & Biden can spin / manufacture shit to get out of this one!


He needs to prove they were actually declassified by showing that the effected depts and agencies were informed. If he can’t, then he’s lying and stole the documents.
 
He needs to prove they were actually declassified by showing that the effected depts and agencies were informed. If he can’t, then he’s lying and stole the documents.
It has already been proven the FBI has refused to comply with Presidential Orders, Court Orders, and the FOIA by not declassifying and releasing info on Crossfire Hurricane.

Now the FBI IS refusing to comply with a court order by not releasing all info, files, and the laptop of Seth Rich - which they originally declared they did not have.

The FBI did the exact same thing with Hunter Biden's laptop, claiming at 1st they did not have it then claiming they lost it and the whole time refusing to do anything with it / about it.

You clowns are doing everything you can to defend corrupt, lying, criminal, treasonous liberal / Democrat scum because you are driven by your emotions and hate.

You ask for facts / evidence, and when you are given it you either refuse to acknowledge it or pathetically attempt to attack the source because you can't disprove what is being reported.

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It has already been proven the FBI has refused to comply with Presidential Orders, Court Orders, and the FOIA by not declassifying and releasing info on Crossfire Hurricane.

Now the FBI IS refusing to comply with a court order by not releasing all info, files, and the laptop of Seth Rich - which they originally declared they did not have.

The FBI did the exact same thing with Hunter Biden's laptop, claiming at 1st they did not have it then claiming they lost it and the whole time refusing to do anything with it / about it.

You clowns are doing everything you can to defend corrupt, lying, criminal, treasonous liberal / Democrat scum because you are driven by your emotions and hate.

You ask for facts / evidence, and when you are given it you either refuse to acknowledge it or pathetically attempt to attack the source because you can't disprove what is being reported.

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All the people responsible for this should be arrested.
 
He's Teflon Don!

It is likely no one's
ever gonna get him here on earth....

but someone is going to get him! And that will happen on judgement day, face to face, with the One and only, final judge! :eek-52:


:D
To "get him" he has to have done something.
 
Trump's attorneys have had numerous opportunities to state for the record, under penalty of perjury, that Trump declassified any of the documents in question. They haven't. Why? Cuz of that perjury thing.

A federal judge expressed skepticism on Tuesday about the efforts by former President Donald J. Trump’s legal team to avoid offering any proof of his claims that he had declassified sensitive government documents that were seized from his Florida estate last month.

The statements by the judge, Raymond J. Dearie, who is acting as a special master reviewing the seized materials, were an early indication that he may not be entirely sympathetic to the former president’s attempts to bog down the judge’s evaluation with time-consuming questions over the classification status of some of the documents.

“My view is, you can’t have your cake and eat it too,” Judge Dearie said at a hearing called to determine the process he would use to do a sweeping review of materials seized from Mr. Trump.

Judge Dearie, who had been suggested for the role by Mr. Trump’s legal team, was referring to a set of sometimes confusing arguments made by that team as it seeks to limit or delay the Justice Department’s criminal investigation.


Judge asks Trump's lawyers if he declassified records in FBI search​

"If the government gives me prima facie evidence (a legal term meaning a fact presumed to be true unless disproved) that this is classified, and you decide not to advance a claim of declassification ... as far as I'm concerned that's the end of it," Dearie told Trump's lawyers in his first public hearing on the matter.
 
It has already been proven the FBI has refused to comply with Presidential Orders, Court Orders, and the FOIA by not declassifying and releasing info on Crossfire Hurricane.

Now the FBI IS refusing to comply with a court order by not releasing all info, files, and the laptop of Seth Rich - which they originally declared they did not have.

The FBI did the exact same thing with Hunter Biden's laptop, claiming at 1st they did not have it then claiming they lost it and the whole time refusing to do anything with it / about it.

You clowns are doing everything you can to defend corrupt, lying, criminal, treasonous liberal / Democrat scum because you are driven by your emotions and hate.

You ask for facts / evidence, and when you are given it you either refuse to acknowledge it or pathetically attempt to attack the source because you can't disprove what is being reported.

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Hog wash!

Trump didn't request in writing for cross fire hurricane to be released until less than 24 hours of Joe's inauguration, on January 19..... from what I saw, and if it was real.

And since Trump had already been impeached by the House at that point for doing nothing but watching tv with a smile for over 3 hours of rioting without lifting a finger to help..... it didn't get done before he left.... they probably still could not be declassified and released while Durham was investigating the investigators in the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.... Or Biden reclassified when asked....

The FBI never confirms or denies a personal investigation in to an individual citizen while investigating.... Why would you have expected them to tell you? Ahhhh, you wanted your October Surprise to work, and it couldn't work without the FBI playing your October surprise game with you, or social media playing your October surprise game with you!

Hey, Biden likely reclassified them, as Trump says..."Just by thinking about it...". :D

Too bad, so sad!
 
Hog wash!

Trump didn't request in writing for cross fire hurricane to be released until less than 24 hours of Joe's inauguration, on January 19..... from what I saw, and if it was real.

And since Trump had already been impeached by the House at that point for doing nothing but watching tv with a smile for over 3 hours of rioting without lifting a finger to help..... it didn't get done before he left.... they probably still could not be declassified and released while Durham was investigating the investigators in the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.... Or Biden reclassified when asked....

The FBI never confirms or denies a personal investigation in to an individual citizen while investigating.... Why would you have expected them to tell you? Ahhhh, you wanted your October Surprise to work, and it couldn't work without the FBI playing your October surprise game with you, or social media playing your October surprise game with you!

Hey, Biden likely reclassified them, as Trump says..."Just by thinking about it...". :D

Too bad, so sad!
Nice TDS-suffering, opinionated diatribe, but there have been multiple threads on this, complete with umeroysinks. As I recall, you never provided any links to support anything you said in those, either.

SSDD with you, snowflake.

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Hog wash!

Trump didn't request in writing for cross fire hurricane to be released until less than 24 hours of Joe's inauguration, on January 19..... from what I saw, and if it was real.

And since Trump had already been impeached by the House at that point for doing nothing but watching tv with a smile for over 3 hours of rioting without lifting a finger to help..... it didn't get done before he left.... they probably still could not be declassified and released while Durham was investigating the investigators in the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.... Or Biden reclassified when asked....

The FBI never confirms or denies a personal investigation in to an individual citizen while investigating.... Why would you have expected them to tell you? Ahhhh, you wanted your October Surprise to work, and it couldn't work without the FBI playing your October surprise game with you, or social media playing your October surprise game with you!

Hey, Biden likely reclassified them, as Trump says..."Just by thinking about it...". :D

Too bad, so sad!


 
Hog wash!

Trump didn't request in writing for cross fire hurricane to be released until less than 24 hours of Joe's inauguration, on January 19..... from what I saw, and if it was real.

And since Trump had already been impeached by the House at that point for doing nothing but watching tv with a smile for over 3 hours of rioting without lifting a finger to help..... it didn't get done before he left.... they probably still could not be declassified and released while Durham was investigating the investigators in the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.... Or Biden reclassified when asked....

The FBI never confirms or denies a personal investigation in to an individual citizen while investigating.... Why would you have expected them to tell you? Ahhhh, you wanted your October Surprise to work, and it couldn't work without the FBI playing your October surprise game with you, or social media playing your October surprise game with you!

Hey, Biden likely reclassified them, as Trump says..."Just by thinking about it...". :D

Too bad, so sad!
Irrelevant. HE still ordered the declassification. Therefore, the documents are declassified.
 
Why do you think that only classified documents should not be taken from the White House?

Is it not possible, that by taking documents from the White House instead of properly archiving them then the government is potentially left in a position where they cannot fully/properly fulfill FOIA request or produce subpoenaed items?

What if the documents are simply needed internally and should have been sent to the Archives?

Why do you think Trump has the legal right to just walk off with boxes of documents after his job is over?

1. It is obvious no President should be able to take classified documents with them when they leave office.

2. When Trump left he left as PRESIDENT, someone with the authority to declassify documents. Biden left as a VICE Presidrnt, having NO authority to declassify anything.


3. When Trump left and took documents it was for a very short time, and there was a Chain of Custody established through the Secret Service.

With Biden, he divided up his documents, sent them to numerous locations - all of which we don't even know, moved them numerous times, and there was never any Chain of Custody AND no visitor logs kept on the UNSECURE locations where Biden kept his classified documents.

THAT means we don't know who had access to the TS/SCI documents during the year beletween the time Biden left the WH & classified Was moved into the Penn-Biden-ChiCom center a year later. (Where were the TS/SCI documrnts during that year, and who had access to them?)

THAT means we don't know who had access to the TS/SCI documents while they sat in the closet if Biden's private office in the Penn-Biden-ChiCom center for the last 5 years!

THAT means we have no clue who had access to the TS/SCI documents sitting in Biden's garage next to his corvette or in the 3rd location, in his house for the last 5 years.

THAT means we have no clue who has had access to the remaining classified documents his aides and DOJ are still looking for.


We went through this before with Hillary's crimes and again with Trump's classified issue, but it is evident we need to go over it again:

TS/SCI - TOP SECRET COMPARTMENTALIZED INFORMATION - is the HIGHEST classification level for classified information in the US. It is for information that has the highest classification sensitivity there is, information that could do grave damage to the US if released.

This information can ONLY be held, viewed, and discussed in designated, cleared, 'vaults' known as SCIFs, Special Compartmentalized Information Facilities.

The information can NOT be TAKEN OUT of these facilities. This information can NOT be DISCUSSED outside of these facilities.

People given access to this information are 'read-into' specific compartmentalized info / programs - being read-into a SCI program does not give you access to ALL SCI prohrams / info.

When you are read-into the SCI program you are briefed on all strict security laws/regs/etc... governing this classification of data. You must sign a document saying you understand everything you were briefed and agree to it.

When you no longer have a need to have access - as in leaving and no longer being Sect of State, Vice Pres, etc... - you are read-out of the TS/SCI program.

At that time you are debriefed, informed from that point on you can no longer have access to any of the TS/SCI info, you can not possess any TS/SCI info, you can never legally speak about the TS/SCI info you had access to, can not use any of the info in memoirs, books you plan to write, etc...

Again, after being debriefed all of this you are required to sign a document stating you understand all of that and that you agree to comply with all of it.

1. This is why Comey's defense of Hillary Clinton, declaring she was 'too stupid to know she was breaking laws' to justify not indicting her for having TS/SCI info, was such BULLSHIT! When Hillary left the Sect of State job she was read-out of the SCI program, fully debriefed, and she signed the document stating she understood all of it and that she was legally bound to comply. SHE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT SHE WAS DOING.

2. Part of Joe Biden's defense, besides being a brain-dead idiot, is 'INADVERTENT taking of TS/SCI Classified documents'. There is NO SUCH THING! As was the case with Hillary, Biden was read-out of the SCI program, fully debriefed, and signed the same document Hillary did. BIDEN ALSO KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING WHEN HE TOOK THESE TS/SCI DOCUMENTS CONTAINING CLEAR 'TS/SCI' MARKINGS!

3. Trump's case is slighly more (or less) complicated since, unlike the other 2, he was / is a former President, giving him the authority to declassify documents.

-- The on-going investigation will tell if he did or not do so. Trump reportedy ordered the FBI to declassify all Crossfire Hurricane documents, which they did not / refused to do. Some say this is false. If this is false, why have the courts allowed FOIA lawsuits SEEKING Crossfire Hurricane info against the FBI go forward (which the FBI still refuses to comply with)? FOIA requests can only be filed against / for unclassified / declassified information. That means the Crossfire Hurricane docs had to be declassified OR the FOIA requests were filed based on Trump's order to the FBI to declassify them....but this is for another thread topic.

Biden is completely LEGALLY (not partisanly) screwed for taking TS/SCI documenys illegally, for illegally transporting them, and for illegally storing them in an UNSECURED NON-SCIF, for having no clue where all the documents were / are for 6 years, and having no Chain of Custody to be able to tell who had access to some of the nation's highest sensitive classified information.
 
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1. It is obvious no President should be able to take classified documents with them when they leave office.

2. When Trump left he left as PRESIDENT, someone with the authority to declassify documents. Biden left as a VICE Presidrnt, having NO authority to declassify anything.


3. When Trump left and took documents it was for a very short time, and there was a Chain of Custody established through the Secret Service.

With Biden, he divided up his documents, sent them to numerous locations - all of which we don't even know, moved them numerous times, and there was never any Chain of Custody AND no visitor logs kept on the UNSECURE locations where Biden kept his classified documents.

THAT means we don't know who had access to the TS/SCI documents during the year beletween the time Biden left the WH & classified Was moved into the Penn-Biden-ChiCom center a year later. (Where were the TS/SCI documrnts during that year, and who had access to them?)

THAT means we don't know who had access to the TS/SCI documents while they sat in the closet if Biden's private office in the Penn-Biden-ChiCom center for the last 5 years!

THAT means we have no clue who had access to the TS/SCI documents sitting in Biden's garage next to his corvette or in the 3rd location, in his house for the last 5 years.

THAT means we have no clue who has had access to the remaining classified documents his aides and DOJ are still looking for.


We went through this before with Hillary's crimes and again with Trump's classified issue, but it is evident we need to go over it again:

TS/SCI - TOP SECRET COMPARTMENTALIZED INFORMATION - is the HIGHEST classification level for classified information in the US. It is for information that has the highest classification sensitivity there is, information that could do grave damage to the US if released.

This information can ONLY be held, viewed, and discussed in designated, cleared, 'vaults' known as SCIFs, Special Compartmentalized Information Facilities.

The information can NOT be TAKEN OUT of these facilities. This information can NOT be DISCUSSED outside of these facilities.

People given access to this information are 'read-into' specific compartmentalized info / programs - being read-into a SCI program does not give you access to ALL SCI prohrams / info.

When you are read-into the SCI program you are briefed on all strict security laws/regs/etc... governing this classification of data. You must sign a document saying you understand everything you were briefed and agree to it.

When you no longer have a need to have access - as in leaving and no longer being Sect of State, Vice Pres, etc... - you are read-out of the TS/SCI program.

At that time you are debriefed, informed from that point on you can no longer have access to any of the TS/SCI info, you can not possess any TS/SCI info, you can never legally speak about the TS/SCI info you had access to, can not use any of the info in memoirs, books you plan to write, etc...

Again, after being debriefed all of this you are required to sign a document stating you understand all of that and that you agree to comply with all of it.

1. This is why Comey's defense of Hillary Clinton, declaring she was 'too stupid to know she was breaking laws' to justify not indicting her for having TS/SCI info, was such BULLSHIT! When Hillary left the Sect of State job she was read-out of the SCI program, fully debriefed, and she signed the document stating she understood all of it and that she was legally bound to comply. SHE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT SHE WAS DOING.

2. Part of Joe Biden's defense, besides being a brain-dead idiot, is 'INADVERTENT taking of TS/SCI Classified documents'. There is NO SUCH THING! As was the case with Hillary, Biden was read-out of the SCI program, fully debriefed, and signed the same document Hillary did. BIDEN ALSO KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING WHEN HE TOOK THESE TS/SCI DOCUMENTS CONTAINING CLEAR 'TS/SCI' MARKINGS!

3. Trump's case is slighly more (or less) complicated since, unlike the other 2, he was / is a former President, giving him the authority to declassify documents.

-- The on-going investigation will tell if he did or not do so. Trump reportedy ordered the FBI to declassify all Crossfire Hurricane documents, which they did not / refused to do. Some say this is false. If this is false, why have the courts allowed FOIA lawsuits SEEKING Crossfire Hurricane info against the FBI go forward (which the FBI still refuses to comply with)? FOIA requests can only be filed against / for unclassified / declassified information. That means the Crossfire Hurricane docs had to be declassified OR the FOIA requests were filed based on Trump's order to the FBI to declassify them....but this is for another thread topic.

Biden is completely LEGALLY (not partisanly) screwed for taking TS/SCI documenys illegally, for illegally transporting them, and for illegally storing them in an UNSECURED NON-SCIF, for having no clue where all the documents were / are for 6 years, and having no Chain of Custody to be able to tell who had access to some of the nation's highest sensitive classified information.
Virtually none of the above is true
 
It's irrefutable, dumbass.


If they weren't such monsters when they actually have power...you know, joyfully filling mass graves with innocent men, women and children......they would be so cute when they lie.....
 
He needs to prove they were actually declassified by showing that the effected depts and agencies were informed. If he can’t, then he’s lying and stole the documents.

Wrong.
Presidents and VPs by statute have complete and total discretion to do what ever they want with classified docs. They can give out unclassified copies to whomever they want, and the originals created by different agencies can remain classified.
Presidents and VPs do not have to "inform" anyone of anything they do, regarding classified docs.
 
And since Trump had already been impeached by the House at that point for doing nothing but watching tv with a smile for over 3 hours of rioting without lifting a finger to help..... it didn't get done before he left.... they probably still could not be declassified and released while Durham was investigating the investigators in the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.... Or Biden reclassified when asked....

The FBI never confirms or denies a personal investigation in to an individual citizen while investigating.... Why would you have expected them to tell you? Ahhhh, you wanted your October Surprise to work, and it couldn't work without the FBI playing your October surprise game with you, or social media playing your October surprise game with you!

Hey, Biden likely reclassified them, as Trump says..."Just by thinking about it...".

Wrong.

The 2 impeachments were over Russian election collusion and over the Ukraine investigation request to Zelensky. There is nothing about Jan 6.

Biden can NOT "reclassify" that which another president or VP has declassified.
Presidents and VPs both are totally above and immune to all classified doc statutes, and that is in perpetuity.
 
1. It is obvious no President should be able to take classified documents with them when they leave office.

2. When Trump left he left as PRESIDENT, someone with the authority to declassify documents. Biden left as a VICE Presidrnt, having NO authority to declassify anything.


3. When Trump left and took documents it was for a very short time, and there was a Chain of Custody established through the Secret Service.

With Biden, he divided up his documents, sent them to numerous locations - all of which we don't even know, moved them numerous times, and there was never any Chain of Custody AND no visitor logs kept on the UNSECURE locations where Biden kept his classified documents.

THAT means we don't know who had access to the TS/SCI documents during the year beletween the time Biden left the WH & classified Was moved into the Penn-Biden-ChiCom center a year later. (Where were the TS/SCI documrnts during that year, and who had access to them?)

THAT means we don't know who had access to the TS/SCI documents while they sat in the closet if Biden's private office in the Penn-Biden-ChiCom center for the last 5 years!

THAT means we have no clue who had access to the TS/SCI documents sitting in Biden's garage next to his corvette or in the 3rd location, in his house for the last 5 years.

THAT means we have no clue who has had access to the remaining classified documents his aides and DOJ are still looking for.


We went through this before with Hillary's crimes and again with Trump's classified issue, but it is evident we need to go over it again:

TS/SCI - TOP SECRET COMPARTMENTALIZED INFORMATION - is the HIGHEST classification level for classified information in the US. It is for information that has the highest classification sensitivity there is, information that could do grave damage to the US if released.

This information can ONLY be held, viewed, and discussed in designated, cleared, 'vaults' known as SCIFs, Special Compartmentalized Information Facilities.

The information can NOT be TAKEN OUT of these facilities. This information can NOT be DISCUSSED outside of these facilities.

People given access to this information are 'read-into' specific compartmentalized info / programs - being read-into a SCI program does not give you access to ALL SCI prohrams / info.

When you are read-into the SCI program you are briefed on all strict security laws/regs/etc... governing this classification of data. You must sign a document saying you understand everything you were briefed and agree to it.

When you no longer have a need to have access - as in leaving and no longer being Sect of State, Vice Pres, etc... - you are read-out of the TS/SCI program.

At that time you are debriefed, informed from that point on you can no longer have access to any of the TS/SCI info, you can not possess any TS/SCI info, you can never legally speak about the TS/SCI info you had access to, can not use any of the info in memoirs, books you plan to write, etc...

Again, after being debriefed all of this you are required to sign a document stating you understand all of that and that you agree to comply with all of it.

1. This is why Comey's defense of Hillary Clinton, declaring she was 'too stupid to know she was breaking laws' to justify not indicting her for having TS/SCI info, was such BULLSHIT! When Hillary left the Sect of State job she was read-out of the SCI program, fully debriefed, and she signed the document stating she understood all of it and that she was legally bound to comply. SHE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT SHE WAS DOING.

2. Part of Joe Biden's defense, besides being a brain-dead idiot, is 'INADVERTENT taking of TS/SCI Classified documents'. There is NO SUCH THING! As was the case with Hillary, Biden was read-out of the SCI program, fully debriefed, and signed the same document Hillary did. BIDEN ALSO KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING WHEN HE TOOK THESE TS/SCI DOCUMENTS CONTAINING CLEAR 'TS/SCI' MARKINGS!

3. Trump's case is slighly more (or less) complicated since, unlike the other 2, he was / is a former President, giving him the authority to declassify documents.

-- The on-going investigation will tell if he did or not do so. Trump reportedy ordered the FBI to declassify all Crossfire Hurricane documents, which they did not / refused to do. Some say this is false. If this is false, why have the courts allowed FOIA lawsuits SEEKING Crossfire Hurricane info against the FBI go forward (which the FBI still refuses to comply with)? FOIA requests can only be filed against / for unclassified / declassified information. That means the Crossfire Hurricane docs had to be declassified OR the FOIA requests were filed based on Trump's order to the FBI to declassify them....but this is for another thread topic.

Biden is completely LEGALLY (not partisanly) screwed for taking TS/SCI documenys illegally, for illegally transporting them, and for illegally storing them in an UNSECURED NON-SCIF, for having no clue where all the documents were / are for 6 years, and having no Chain of Custody to be able to tell who had access to some of the nation's highest sensitive classified information.

Wrong.
The statutes are clear that both presidents and VPs are explicitly exempt and above all classified doc laws, can take any copy of them they want with them when they leave, and there is absolutely no limit as to what they can do with them.

What should be obvious to anyone is that presidents and VP are the final arbiters of all classified doc laws, and that never goes away just because new presidents and VPs are elected.
 

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