The Civil War

[Unkotare]

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That’s the thing you fail to comprehend. Lincoln did invade, conquer, and murder.

Your contempt for the United States aside, the President of the United States deployed United States troops within the United States when a special-interest faction rejected the United States Constitution and attempted to deprive Americans in several of the United States of their United States citizenship.

The United States won, the was United States preserved, and the citizens threatened with loss of United States citizenship protected.

Oh brother. My contempt has nothing to do with the historical facts. You’re happy Lincoln started a war against the south, failing to understand the horrific consequences. Think bigger.

Lincoln post dates the Perpetual Union and the sedition that trying to destroy it represents. It was the attempt of states to fracture the Union that provoked violence. As a devout southerner, Andrew Jackson, declared, well before Lincoln, "The Union! It must be preserved!" The addiction to slavery led the south to commit a gross error and the country paid a huge price for it.

Again you’re not thinking. If a portion of the Union no longer wants to be in the Union, why kill them?

You are a statist authoritarian, but don’t know it.

Your philosophy and that of the Lincoln Cult can be condensed down to this: kill them to keep them.

Fuck you selfish, slavery-loving scumbags. You don't get to break up MY country just because you are afraid to live without the slave labor of other human beings. Get your lazy ass out there and pick your own fucking cotton. If you think it's a better idea to destroy the unity of MY country, you will be destroyed. You best learn humility, boy, or you will be taught again.

EVERY so-called 'confederate' state had organized, armed regiments of CITIZENS of those states actively fighting against the traitorous scumbag 'confederates.' EVERY one.

Love you too even though you’re dumb as a box of rocks.

You seem to consider yourself quite intelligent. Upon what do you base this delusion?

Thank you. I am.

unfortunately, you aren’t.

You have just proven that you are not. Care to try again?

Yes I’m very intelligent, .........

It is becoming very suspicious that you keep avoiding the question "Upon what do you base this delusion?"

 

[Unkotare]

Democrats are not "most Americans." They are Nazis though

Your hyper-partisan alienation from the United States is unfortunate.

Your nazis are Trump goons, of course, on record as having endorsed their "God Emperor" twice, still supporting the Loser.

Donald Trump – Daily Stormer

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Bull shit. Democrats are very much going to destroying [sic] people's lives and violence [sic] for standing up to them. Being a kid or an old man don't [sic] even protect you if you're wearing a red hat. Now you're just flagrantly stealing elections. You are Nazis, no doubt about it

Learn English or get the fuck out of my country, stupid.

Figures, now you're looking for typos on an internet message board. ......

"Typos"?
Every semi-literate moron who can barely manage to communicate in his first language falls back on "typos."

 

[Unkotare]

... You aren't smart enough and your ideas are bad and don't work. .....

Learn English or get the fuck out of my country, stupid.

The Internet Spell and grammar police! ......

Do you need help finding an online remedial English course? Or are you satisfied with your weakness?

 

[Theledgened]

Democrats are not "most Americans." They are Nazis though

Your hyper-partisan alienation from the United States is unfortunate.

Your nazis are Trump goons, of course, on record as having endorsed their "God Emperor" twice, still supporting the Loser.

Donald Trump – Daily Stormer

dailystormer.su

Bull shit. Democrats are very much going to destroying [sic] people's lives and violence [sic] for standing up to them. Being a kid or an old man don't [sic] even protect you if you're wearing a red hat. Now you're just flagrantly stealing elections. You are Nazis, no doubt about it

Learn English or get the fuck out of my country, stupid.

Figures, now you're looking for typos on an internet message board. ......

"Typos"?
Every semi-literate moron who can barely manage to communicate in his first language falls back on "typos."

Do you ever make a declaration or do you just add bullshit you can’t back up?
If you think the Civil War started because of slavery please provide your evidence. If not STFU

 

[Unkotare]

Democrats are not "most Americans." They are Nazis though

Your hyper-partisan alienation from the United States is unfortunate.

Your nazis are Trump goons, of course, on record as having endorsed their "God Emperor" twice, still supporting the Loser.

Donald Trump – Daily Stormer

dailystormer.su

Bull shit. Democrats are very much going to destroying [sic] people's lives and violence [sic] for standing up to them. Being a kid or an old man don't [sic] even protect you if you're wearing a red hat. Now you're just flagrantly stealing elections. You are Nazis, no doubt about it

Learn English or get the fuck out of my country, stupid.

Figures, now you're looking for typos on an internet message board. ......

"Typos"?
Every semi-literate moron who can barely manage to communicate in his first language falls back on "typos."

Do you ever make a declaration or do you just add bullshit you can’t back up?
If you think the Civil War started because of slavery please provide your evidence. If not STFU

Read the whole thread, idiot.

 

[kaz]

Democrats are not "most Americans." They are Nazis though

Your hyper-partisan alienation from the United States is unfortunate.

Your nazis are Trump goons, of course, on record as having endorsed their "God Emperor" twice, still supporting the Loser.

Donald Trump – Daily Stormer

dailystormer.su

Bull shit. Democrats are very much going to destroying [sic] people's lives and violence [sic] for standing up to them. Being a kid or an old man don't [sic] even protect you if you're wearing a red hat. Now you're just flagrantly stealing elections. You are Nazis, no doubt about it

Learn English or get the fuck out of my country, stupid.

Figures, now you're looking for typos on an internet message board. ......

"Typos"?
Every semi-literate moron who can barely manage to communicate in his first language falls back on "typos."

You attacked me for a sentence that would have been fixed with a comma. You're a useless government teacher who knows shit about history so you're just flailing now.

It's a fucking message board you stupid douche. We keep rewriting posts. But we need to sit there at the end and read every post like it's in a term paper or you can't read it. You're all upset about not having a comma between two independent clauses. Pathetic

 

[Theledgened]

Democrats are not "most Americans." They are Nazis though

Your hyper-partisan alienation from the United States is unfortunate.

Your nazis are Trump goons, of course, on record as having endorsed their "God Emperor" twice, still supporting the Loser.

Donald Trump – Daily Stormer

dailystormer.su

Bull shit. Democrats are very much going to destroying [sic] people's lives and violence [sic] for standing up to them. Being a kid or an old man don't [sic] even protect you if you're wearing a red hat. Now you're just flagrantly stealing elections. You are Nazis, no doubt about it

Learn English or get the fuck out of my country, stupid.

Figures, now you're looking for typos on an internet message board. ......

"Typos"?
Every semi-literate moron who can barely manage to communicate in his first language falls back on "typos."

Do you ever make a declaration or do you just add bullshit you can’t back up?
If you think the Civil War started because of slavery please provide your evidence. If not STFU

Read the whole thread, idiot.

It’s real simple a war is started for a reason there is a declaration can you please provide it if not ...

 

[gtopa1]

You didn't answer the question, you ignorant coward.

You mean you object to people not answering your questions?

Really?

Unkotare didn't know what his own question was. He doesn't know the difference between the American government and the American people.

He wanted me to answer his question without him even knowing what he asked me. Pass

Dat Boy is confused about a lot of things. With only only having a Jr High School History text knowledge of the Civil War, written by the winners, he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground about what he is talking about.

He needs to do the homework assignment that I gave him. That way he won't look like a fool when he post his uneducated dribble.

I thought he said one time that he was a teacher. If he was telling the truth then he should know the value of learning something about a topic before opening his mouth. I gave him an assignment to read up on the topic but like all idiot Libtards he is doesn't want to learn.

If Unkotare would just say he knows what consent of the governed means, he just doesn't believe in it, then we all could just all say we disagree on that, live and go on.

But he keeps arguing that government conquering half it's own country doesn't violate consent of the governed, which is just stupid.

He also keeps arguing that southerners were evil salvers (they were), but that somehow justifies him conquering them and forcing them to stay in his country, which is just bizarre

In addition, he like so many duped Americans with only a government school understanding of the war, doesn’t know that the war was not a civil war. The South had no intentions of conquering or controlling the North. The definition of a civil war requires that both parties are fighting for control of the entire nation.

It was the War of Northern Aggression.

No one disputes that slavery was evil and needed terminating. However, the Lincoln Cult needs to accept what Dishonest Abe did was illegal and caused unbelievable harm to not only the South, but the entire nation.

Lincoln may have used extra-Constitutional measures to save the Union, but that hardly compares to the extra-Constitutional attempt of the south to destroy that Union. If anything, Lincoln's excesses were made necessary by the situation imposed upon the nation by those seeking to sabotage it.

Isn't "extra-Constitutional" illegal?? This is an interesting article.

Fourth and finally, Lincoln denied that the Constitution was silent with respect to secession. The immediate predecessor to the Constitution, the Articles of Confederation, purported to establish a "perpetual Union." By seeking to create what the Preamble calls "a more perfect Union"--in an echo of the Articles' language--the Constitution, Lincoln said, simply strengthened the already indissoluble bonds between the States.

But the Constitution itself was established in blatant violation of the terms of the Articles--which required unanimous consent of the states for any amendment. Moreover, how do we know that the "perfection" of the Union required stronger rather than weaker bonds? To infer this point from the fact that, on the whole, the Constitution created a stronger national government than existed under the Articles is to acknowledge that the real work in this argument is not being done by the language of the Preamble.

Does the Constitution Permit the Blue States to Secede? | FindLaw

Read Legal Commentary: Does the Constitution Permit the Blue States to Secede? at FindLaw.com

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[kaz]

... You aren't smart enough and your ideas are bad and don't work. .....

Learn English or get the fuck out of my country, stupid.

The Internet Spell and grammar police! ......

Do you need help finding an online remedial English course? Or are you satisfied with your weakness?

You seriously want to argue grammar and spelling on a political message board. Of course you do, you're a

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[kaz]

"Typos"?
Every semi-literate moron who can barely manage to communicate in his first language falls back on "typos."

Do you ever make a declaration or do you just add bullshit you can’t back up?
If you think the Civil War started because of slavery please provide your evidence. If not STFU

Be careful, Unkotare is very dangerous. He'll go after you for spelling and grammar when you out content him. It's horrible. A living hell

 

[Unkotare]

..... You're a useless government teacher who knows shit about history ......

And what exactly is your education, training, or experience in the field, stupid?

 

[kaz]

Do you ever make a declaration or do you just add bullshit you can’t back up?
If you think the Civil War started because of slavery please provide your evidence. If not STFU

Read the whole thread, idiot.

You could have just said no, you can't back it up

 

[Unkotare]

......Be careful, Unkotare is very dangerous. He's go after you for spelling and grammar......

You seem pretty insecure about your weak language skills. Justifiably so.

 

[kaz]

..... You're a useless government teacher who knows shit about history ......

And what exactly is your education, training, or experience in the field, stupid?

Now it's an argument from authority fallacy.

You need a degree to know that conquering States contradicts consent of the governed? Seriously?

 

[kaz]

......Be careful, Unkotare is very dangerous. He's go after you for spelling and grammar......

You seem pretty insecure about your weak language skills. Justifiably so.

OMG, now you're too stupid to grasp sarcasm.

A government job is right for you

 

[Theledgened]

......Be careful, Unkotare is very dangerous. He's go after you for spelling and grammar......

You seem pretty insecure about your weak language skills. Justifiably so.

Did they ever teach you facts and content was important in school? I’m glad you can spell bull shit really well

 

[Unkotare]

Democrats are not "most Americans." They are Nazis though

Your hyper-partisan alienation from the United States is unfortunate.

Your nazis are Trump goons, of course, on record as having endorsed their "God Emperor" twice, still supporting the Loser.

Donald Trump – Daily Stormer

dailystormer.su

Bull shit. Democrats are very much going to destroying [sic] people's lives and violence [sic] for standing up to them. Being a kid or an old man don't [sic] even protect you if you're wearing a red hat. Now you're just flagrantly stealing elections. You are Nazis, no doubt about it

Learn English or get the fuck out of my country, stupid.

Figures, now you're looking for typos on an internet message board. ......

"Typos"?
Every semi-literate moron who can barely manage to communicate in his first language falls back on "typos."

Do you ever make a declaration or do you just add bullshit you can’t back up?
If you think the Civil War started because of slavery please provide your evidence. If not STFU

Read the whole thread, idiot.

It’s real simple a war is started for a reason there is a declaration can you please provide it if not ...

This is why I told you to read the thread. I have posted the information you are looking for many, many times already. Stop being lazy and read the damn thread.

 

[Theledgened]

Democrats are not "most Americans." They are Nazis though

Your hyper-partisan alienation from the United States is unfortunate.

Your nazis are Trump goons, of course, on record as having endorsed their "God Emperor" twice, still supporting the Loser.

Donald Trump – Daily Stormer

dailystormer.su

Bull shit. Democrats are very much going to destroying [sic] people's lives and violence [sic] for standing up to them. Being a kid or an old man don't [sic] even protect you if you're wearing a red hat. Now you're just flagrantly stealing elections. You are Nazis, no doubt about it

Learn English or get the fuck out of my country, stupid.

Figures, now you're looking for typos on an internet message board. ......

"Typos"?
Every semi-literate moron who can barely manage to communicate in his first language falls back on "typos."

Do you ever make a declaration or do you just add bullshit you can’t back up?
If you think the Civil War started because of slavery please provide your evidence. If not STFU

Read the whole thread, idiot.

It’s real simple a war is started for a reason there is a declaration can you please provide it if not ...

This is why I told you to read the thread. I have posted the information you are looking for many, many times already. Stop being lazy and read the damn thread.

What number?

 

[kaz]

Read the whole thread, idiot.

It’s real simple a war is started for a reason there is a declaration can you please provide it if not ...

Unkortare's argument is that the slavery is evil and that makes the South evil. Which is fair enough, slavery is evil.

But then he goes on to say that justifies conquering the South and forcing them to stay in the United States.

He can't explain how that part makes sense

 

[kaz]

It’s real simple a war is started for a reason there is a declaration can you please provide it if not ...

This is why I told you to read the thread. I have posted the information you are looking for many, many times already. Stop being lazy and read the damn thread.

You literally have posted the same posts over and over. Maybe you could give him a few post numbers and help him out. Telling people to read a long thread in it's entirety before posting really isn't reasonable