The Civil War

thus topic should be renamed into "The 1st Civil war", since the US is gradually slipping into the 2nd Civil war.
Some observers think the US is alreday in state of "warm" civil war, which will gradually develop into a hot one.. ..
That is the dream of America's enemies (foreign and domestic). It is a dream that will not come true.

why won't it come true? though, you are correct, Civil war is going on already.

The nation is split on racial and social lines.
Split along these lines gets deeper and bigger, since :

- Whites are gradually decrease in numbers, by 2045 they will be minority in the US, they are already minority in several states and will becone minority in the South-Western belt of states From Califirnia to Taxes (Latinos are already 52% in New Mexico).
And what is more important - Whites increasinly start voting as Whites, not just according to their political preferences.

Latin American citizens and immigrants are increasingly Socialist - in states with big Latin share (South-West) a Socialist Bernie Sanders defeated moderate liberal Biden.

So, aside of perspectives of just civil war there are very good perspectives of separatism and disintegration of the US in 10 years approximately, when 2 rows of states bordering Mexico become predominantly Spanish speaking and Latino.

plus, there is a campaign of mass repressions against half of America which lost elections - "domestic terrorists" are being silenced, thrown out of job for their views, cancel culture, mass persecution, mass censorship and ban of tens of thousands of Trumpists by social nets - this is already warm civil war.

People already started dying in this war, just the process is slightly retarded by demoralization of Republicans.

I presume after Republicans realize that due to demographic changes they have lost any chances forever to ever control any branch of power on the federal level - they will revolt.

Republicans will never have their president. They will never get any chamber of Congress.

Just because Whites are becoming a minority fast.
It isn't that I am correct, it is that you are incorrect.

prove it
Again? You already have.

you seem to be a Democrat, they never engage in fair fight... :)
Fight? Democrat? You are imaging things.

then prove your opinion, if you have one

though, never mind, it's enough that you know mine :)
 
You attacked me for a sentence that would have been fixed with a comma. ......

Thanks for proving that it was more than a "typo." A comma won't solve your problems.

State your degree in English. You don't have one, do you?

I actually have a masters degree in Linguistics, so I could help you with your errors in many languages. I have taught English, and History, and quite a few other subjects for over 26 years. And you are..............?

None of those are English degrees. You are completely unqualified to discuss grammar

You don't even know what it means. That is truly pathetic.
 
You didn't answer the question, you ignorant coward.
You mean you object to people not answering your questions?

Really?

Unkotare didn't know what his own question was. He doesn't know the difference between the American government and the American people.

He wanted me to answer his question without him even knowing what he asked me. Pass


Dat Boy is confused about a lot of things. With only only having a Jr High School History text knowledge of the Civil War, written by the winners, he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground about what he is talking about.

He needs to do the homework assignment that I gave him. That way he won't look like a fool when he post his uneducated dribble.

I thought he said one time that he was a teacher. If he was telling the truth then he should know the value of learning something about a topic before opening his mouth. I gave him an assignment to read up on the topic but like all idiot Libtards he is doesn't want to learn.

If Unkotare would just say he knows what consent of the governed means, he just doesn't believe in it, then we all could just all say we disagree on that, live and go on.

But he keeps arguing that government conquering half it's own country doesn't violate consent of the governed, which is just stupid.

He also keeps arguing that southerners were evil salvers (they were), but that somehow justifies him conquering them and forcing them to stay in his country, which is just bizarre
In addition, he like so many duped Americans with only a government school understanding of the war, doesn’t know that the war was not a civil war. The South had no intentions of conquering or controlling the North. The definition of a civil war requires that both parties are fighting for control of the entire nation.

It was the War of Northern Aggression.

No one disputes that slavery was evil and needed terminating. However, the Lincoln Cult needs to accept what Dishonest Abe did was illegal and caused unbelievable harm to not only the South, but the entire nation.
Lincoln may have used extra-Constitutional measures to save the Union, but that hardly compares to the extra-Constitutional attempt of the south to destroy that Union. If anything, Lincoln's excesses were made necessary by the situation imposed upon the nation by those seeking to sabotage it.
Isn't "extra-Constitutional" illegal?? This is an interesting article.

Fourth and finally, Lincoln denied that the Constitution was silent with respect to secession. The immediate predecessor to the Constitution, the Articles of Confederation, purported to establish a "perpetual Union." By seeking to create what the Preamble calls "a more perfect Union"--in an echo of the Articles' language--the Constitution, Lincoln said, simply strengthened the already indissoluble bonds between the States.

But the Constitution itself was established in blatant violation of the terms of the Articles--which required unanimous consent of the states for any amendment. Moreover, how do we know that the "perfection" of the Union required stronger rather than weaker bonds? To infer this point from the fact that, on the whole, the Constitution created a stronger national government than existed under the Articles is to acknowledge that the real work in this argument is not being done by the language of the Preamble.

So, either a more perfect Perpetual Union was made, or the new document is invalid and the original Perpetual Union remained. It's a win-win for the Union.

Government wins, yeah team!

I'm for the people though, and we lost


The Confederacy was the last great hope for Liberty for the world. When the bad guys won the world lost.
 
You didn't answer the question, you ignorant coward.
You mean you object to people not answering your questions?

Really?

Unkotare didn't know what his own question was. He doesn't know the difference between the American government and the American people.

He wanted me to answer his question without him even knowing what he asked me. Pass


Dat Boy is confused about a lot of things. With only only having a Jr High School History text knowledge of the Civil War, written by the winners, he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground about what he is talking about.

He needs to do the homework assignment that I gave him. That way he won't look like a fool when he post his uneducated dribble.

I thought he said one time that he was a teacher. If he was telling the truth then he should know the value of learning something about a topic before opening his mouth. I gave him an assignment to read up on the topic but like all idiot Libtards he is doesn't want to learn.

If Unkotare would just say he knows what consent of the governed means, he just doesn't believe in it, then we all could just all say we disagree on that, live and go on.

But he keeps arguing that government conquering half it's own country doesn't violate consent of the governed, which is just stupid.

He also keeps arguing that southerners were evil salvers (they were), but that somehow justifies him conquering them and forcing them to stay in his country, which is just bizarre
In addition, he like so many duped Americans with only a government school understanding of the war, doesn’t know that the war was not a civil war. The South had no intentions of conquering or controlling the North. The definition of a civil war requires that both parties are fighting for control of the entire nation.

It was the War of Northern Aggression.

No one disputes that slavery was evil and needed terminating. However, the Lincoln Cult needs to accept what Dishonest Abe did was illegal and caused unbelievable harm to not only the South, but the entire nation.
Lincoln may have used extra-Constitutional measures to save the Union, but that hardly compares to the extra-Constitutional attempt of the south to destroy that Union. If anything, Lincoln's excesses were made necessary by the situation imposed upon the nation by those seeking to sabotage it.
Isn't "extra-Constitutional" illegal?? This is an interesting article.

Fourth and finally, Lincoln denied that the Constitution was silent with respect to secession. The immediate predecessor to the Constitution, the Articles of Confederation, purported to establish a "perpetual Union." By seeking to create what the Preamble calls "a more perfect Union"--in an echo of the Articles' language--the Constitution, Lincoln said, simply strengthened the already indissoluble bonds between the States.

But the Constitution itself was established in blatant violation of the terms of the Articles--which required unanimous consent of the states for any amendment. Moreover, how do we know that the "perfection" of the Union required stronger rather than weaker bonds? To infer this point from the fact that, on the whole, the Constitution created a stronger national government than existed under the Articles is to acknowledge that the real work in this argument is not being done by the language of the Preamble.

So, either a more perfect Perpetual Union was made, or the new document is invalid and the original Perpetual Union remained. It's a win-win for the Union.

Government wins, yeah team!

I'm for the people though, and we lost

The people in and of the United States of America won. The scumbag criminals who sought to destroy my Union lost, as anyone with the least amount of sense knew they would.
 
You didn't answer the question, you ignorant coward.
You mean you object to people not answering your questions?

Really?

Unkotare didn't know what his own question was. He doesn't know the difference between the American government and the American people.

He wanted me to answer his question without him even knowing what he asked me. Pass


Dat Boy is confused about a lot of things. With only only having a Jr High School History text knowledge of the Civil War, written by the winners, he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground about what he is talking about.

He needs to do the homework assignment that I gave him. That way he won't look like a fool when he post his uneducated dribble.

I thought he said one time that he was a teacher. If he was telling the truth then he should know the value of learning something about a topic before opening his mouth. I gave him an assignment to read up on the topic but like all idiot Libtards he is doesn't want to learn.

If Unkotare would just say he knows what consent of the governed means, he just doesn't believe in it, then we all could just all say we disagree on that, live and go on.

But he keeps arguing that government conquering half it's own country doesn't violate consent of the governed, which is just stupid.

He also keeps arguing that southerners were evil salvers (they were), but that somehow justifies him conquering them and forcing them to stay in his country, which is just bizarre
In addition, he like so many duped Americans with only a government school understanding of the war, doesn’t know that the war was not a civil war. The South had no intentions of conquering or controlling the North. The definition of a civil war requires that both parties are fighting for control of the entire nation.

It was the War of Northern Aggression.

No one disputes that slavery was evil and needed terminating. However, the Lincoln Cult needs to accept what Dishonest Abe did was illegal and caused unbelievable harm to not only the South, but the entire nation.
Lincoln may have used extra-Constitutional measures to save the Union, but that hardly compares to the extra-Constitutional attempt of the south to destroy that Union. If anything, Lincoln's excesses were made necessary by the situation imposed upon the nation by those seeking to sabotage it.
Isn't "extra-Constitutional" illegal?? This is an interesting article.

Fourth and finally, Lincoln denied that the Constitution was silent with respect to secession. The immediate predecessor to the Constitution, the Articles of Confederation, purported to establish a "perpetual Union." By seeking to create what the Preamble calls "a more perfect Union"--in an echo of the Articles' language--the Constitution, Lincoln said, simply strengthened the already indissoluble bonds between the States.

But the Constitution itself was established in blatant violation of the terms of the Articles--which required unanimous consent of the states for any amendment. Moreover, how do we know that the "perfection" of the Union required stronger rather than weaker bonds? To infer this point from the fact that, on the whole, the Constitution created a stronger national government than existed under the Articles is to acknowledge that the real work in this argument is not being done by the language of the Preamble.

So, either a more perfect Perpetual Union was made, or the new document is invalid and the original Perpetual Union remained. It's a win-win for the Union.

Government wins, yeah team!

I'm for the people though, and we lost


The Confederacy was the last great hope for Liberty for the world. .......

I'm sure that's just what all the enslaved people thought. :rolleyes:

Holy shit, you're stupid.
 
You attacked me for a sentence that would have been fixed with a comma. ......

Thanks for proving that it was more than a "typo." A comma won't solve your problems.

State your degree in English. You don't have one, do you?

I actually have a masters degree in Linguistics, so I could help you with your errors in many languages. I have taught English, and History, and quite a few other subjects for over 26 years. And you are..............?

None of those are English degrees. You are completely unqualified to discuss grammar

You don't even know what it means. That is truly pathetic.

LOL, I can see you reporting your success for the day. You got your ass handed to you in a history debate, but you want on a spelling and grammar rampage on the internet! People, proof read your posts carefully before posting to Unkotare, a lesson that won't soon be forgotten on the Internet!

LOL, dumb ass
 
So, either a more perfect Perpetual Union was made, or the new document is invalid and the original Perpetual Union remained. It's a win-win for the Union.

Government wins, yeah team!

I'm for the people though, and we lost


The Confederacy was the last great hope for Liberty for the world. .......

I'm sure that's just what all the enslaved people thought. :rolleyes:

Holy shit, you're stupid.

Yet that wasn't the North's objective. Their motto was "Save the Union." A little historical info there for you to know. And they could have told the South to release their slaves to come to the North and they were free to leave, but didn't.

You're just pissing in the wind hoping it turns into a lucid argument
 
You attacked me for a sentence that would have been fixed with a comma. ......

Thanks for proving that it was more than a "typo." A comma won't solve your problems.

State your degree in English. You don't have one, do you?

I actually have a masters degree in Linguistics, so I could help you with your errors in many languages. I have taught English, and History, and quite a few other subjects for over 26 years. And you are..............?
You should be arrested for treason ..

Why?
You have lied to children ......

That is not the definition of treason, but what lie do you imagine?
 
The Civil War was indeed a tragedy that led to far too much centralized power. Having the catastrophe forced upon it by avaricious forces distorted the spirit of the nation. Slavery cost us extremely dearly in every way.
 
You didn't answer the question, you ignorant coward.
You mean you object to people not answering your questions?

Really?

Unkotare didn't know what his own question was. He doesn't know the difference between the American government and the American people.

He wanted me to answer his question without him even knowing what he asked me. Pass


Dat Boy is confused about a lot of things. With only only having a Jr High School History text knowledge of the Civil War, written by the winners, he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground about what he is talking about.

He needs to do the homework assignment that I gave him. That way he won't look like a fool when he post his uneducated dribble.

I thought he said one time that he was a teacher. If he was telling the truth then he should know the value of learning something about a topic before opening his mouth. I gave him an assignment to read up on the topic but like all idiot Libtards he is doesn't want to learn.

If Unkotare would just say he knows what consent of the governed means, he just doesn't believe in it, then we all could just all say we disagree on that, live and go on.

But he keeps arguing that government conquering half it's own country doesn't violate consent of the governed, which is just stupid.

He also keeps arguing that southerners were evil salvers (they were), but that somehow justifies him conquering them and forcing them to stay in his country, which is just bizarre
In addition, he like so many duped Americans with only a government school understanding of the war, doesn’t know that the war was not a civil war. The South had no intentions of conquering or controlling the North. The definition of a civil war requires that both parties are fighting for control of the entire nation.

It was the War of Northern Aggression.

No one disputes that slavery was evil and needed terminating. However, the Lincoln Cult needs to accept what Dishonest Abe did was illegal and caused unbelievable harm to not only the South, but the entire nation.
Lincoln may have used extra-Constitutional measures to save the Union, but that hardly compares to the extra-Constitutional attempt of the south to destroy that Union. If anything, Lincoln's excesses were made necessary by the situation imposed upon the nation by those seeking to sabotage it.
Isn't "extra-Constitutional" illegal?? This is an interesting article.

Fourth and finally, Lincoln denied that the Constitution was silent with respect to secession. The immediate predecessor to the Constitution, the Articles of Confederation, purported to establish a "perpetual Union." By seeking to create what the Preamble calls "a more perfect Union"--in an echo of the Articles' language--the Constitution, Lincoln said, simply strengthened the already indissoluble bonds between the States.

But the Constitution itself was established in blatant violation of the terms of the Articles--which required unanimous consent of the states for any amendment. Moreover, how do we know that the "perfection" of the Union required stronger rather than weaker bonds? To infer this point from the fact that, on the whole, the Constitution created a stronger national government than existed under the Articles is to acknowledge that the real work in this argument is not being done by the language of the Preamble.



Any state can secede. .....

Nope.
 
You attacked me for a sentence that would have been fixed with a comma. ......

Thanks for proving that it was more than a "typo." A comma won't solve your problems.

State your degree in English. You don't have one, do you?

I actually have a masters degree in Linguistics, so I could help you with your errors in many languages. I have taught English, and History, and quite a few other subjects for over 26 years. And you are..............?
You should be arrested for treason ..

Why?
You have lied to children ......

That is not the definition of treason, but what lie do you imagine?
Treason is used by the common ppl many different ways.. are you to elite to understand us?
 
You didn't answer the question, you ignorant coward.
You mean you object to people not answering your questions?

Really?

Unkotare didn't know what his own question was. He doesn't know the difference between the American government and the American people.

He wanted me to answer his question without him even knowing what he asked me. Pass


Dat Boy is confused about a lot of things. With only only having a Jr High School History text knowledge of the Civil War, written by the winners, he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground about what he is talking about.

He needs to do the homework assignment that I gave him. That way he won't look like a fool when he post his uneducated dribble.

I thought he said one time that he was a teacher. If he was telling the truth then he should know the value of learning something about a topic before opening his mouth. I gave him an assignment to read up on the topic but like all idiot Libtards he is doesn't want to learn.

If Unkotare would just say he knows what consent of the governed means, he just doesn't believe in it, then we all could just all say we disagree on that, live and go on.

But he keeps arguing that government conquering half it's own country doesn't violate consent of the governed, which is just stupid.

He also keeps arguing that southerners were evil salvers (they were), but that somehow justifies him conquering them and forcing them to stay in his country, which is just bizarre
In addition, he like so many duped Americans with only a government school understanding of the war, doesn’t know that the war was not a civil war. The South had no intentions of conquering or controlling the North. The definition of a civil war requires that both parties are fighting for control of the entire nation.

It was the War of Northern Aggression.

No one disputes that slavery was evil and needed terminating. However, the Lincoln Cult needs to accept what Dishonest Abe did was illegal and caused unbelievable harm to not only the South, but the entire nation.
Lincoln may have used extra-Constitutional measures to save the Union, but that hardly compares to the extra-Constitutional attempt of the south to destroy that Union. If anything, Lincoln's excesses were made necessary by the situation imposed upon the nation by those seeking to sabotage it.
Isn't "extra-Constitutional" illegal?? This is an interesting article.

Fourth and finally, Lincoln denied that the Constitution was silent with respect to secession. The immediate predecessor to the Constitution, the Articles of Confederation, purported to establish a "perpetual Union." By seeking to create what the Preamble calls "a more perfect Union"--in an echo of the Articles' language--the Constitution, Lincoln said, simply strengthened the already indissoluble bonds between the States.

But the Constitution itself was established in blatant violation of the terms of the Articles--which required unanimous consent of the states for any amendment. Moreover, how do we know that the "perfection" of the Union required stronger rather than weaker bonds? To infer this point from the fact that, on the whole, the Constitution created a stronger national government than existed under the Articles is to acknowledge that the real work in this argument is not being done by the language of the Preamble.

So, either a more perfect Perpetual Union was made, or the new document is invalid and the original Perpetual Union remained. It's a win-win for the Union.

Government wins, yeah team!

I'm for the people though, and we lost

The people in and of the United States of America won. The scumbag criminals who sought to destroy my Union lost, as anyone with the least amount of sense knew they would.

Proving you lied when you said you didn't call the South evil (no quotes). I realize you don't know what quotes mean since you don't have a degree in English. Google it
 
You attacked me for a sentence that would have been fixed with a comma. ......

Thanks for proving that it was more than a "typo." A comma won't solve your problems.

State your degree in English. You don't have one, do you?

I actually have a masters degree in Linguistics, so I could help you with your errors in many languages. I have taught English, and History, and quite a few other subjects for over 26 years. And you are..............?
You should be arrested for treason ..

Why?
You have lied to children ......

That is not the definition of treason, but what lie do you imagine?
Treason is used by the common ppl [sic] many different ways......

Words have meanings, champ.
 
You didn't answer the question, you ignorant coward.
You mean you object to people not answering your questions?

Really?

Unkotare didn't know what his own question was. He doesn't know the difference between the American government and the American people.

He wanted me to answer his question without him even knowing what he asked me. Pass


Dat Boy is confused about a lot of things. With only only having a Jr High School History text knowledge of the Civil War, written by the winners, he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground about what he is talking about.

He needs to do the homework assignment that I gave him. That way he won't look like a fool when he post his uneducated dribble.

I thought he said one time that he was a teacher. If he was telling the truth then he should know the value of learning something about a topic before opening his mouth. I gave him an assignment to read up on the topic but like all idiot Libtards he is doesn't want to learn.

If Unkotare would just say he knows what consent of the governed means, he just doesn't believe in it, then we all could just all say we disagree on that, live and go on.

But he keeps arguing that government conquering half it's own country doesn't violate consent of the governed, which is just stupid.

He also keeps arguing that southerners were evil salvers (they were), but that somehow justifies him conquering them and forcing them to stay in his country, which is just bizarre
In addition, he like so many duped Americans with only a government school understanding of the war, doesn’t know that the war was not a civil war. The South had no intentions of conquering or controlling the North. The definition of a civil war requires that both parties are fighting for control of the entire nation.

It was the War of Northern Aggression.

No one disputes that slavery was evil and needed terminating. However, the Lincoln Cult needs to accept what Dishonest Abe did was illegal and caused unbelievable harm to not only the South, but the entire nation.
Lincoln may have used extra-Constitutional measures to save the Union, but that hardly compares to the extra-Constitutional attempt of the south to destroy that Union. If anything, Lincoln's excesses were made necessary by the situation imposed upon the nation by those seeking to sabotage it.
Isn't "extra-Constitutional" illegal?? This is an interesting article.

Fourth and finally, Lincoln denied that the Constitution was silent with respect to secession. The immediate predecessor to the Constitution, the Articles of Confederation, purported to establish a "perpetual Union." By seeking to create what the Preamble calls "a more perfect Union"--in an echo of the Articles' language--the Constitution, Lincoln said, simply strengthened the already indissoluble bonds between the States.

But the Constitution itself was established in blatant violation of the terms of the Articles--which required unanimous consent of the states for any amendment. Moreover, how do we know that the "perfection" of the Union required stronger rather than weaker bonds? To infer this point from the fact that, on the whole, the Constitution created a stronger national government than existed under the Articles is to acknowledge that the real work in this argument is not being done by the language of the Preamble.

So, either a more perfect Perpetual Union was made, or the new document is invalid and the original Perpetual Union remained. It's a win-win for the Union.

Government wins, yeah team!

I'm for the people though, and we lost

The people in and of the United States of America won. The scumbag criminals who sought to destroy my Union lost, as anyone with the least amount of sense knew they would.

Proving you lied when you said you didn't call the South evil (no quotes). ......

You may imagine a lie, but you sure as hell didn't quote one. Perhaps this is a product of your poor English skills.
 
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You attacked me for a sentence that would have been fixed with a comma. ......

Thanks for proving that it was more than a "typo." A comma won't solve your problems.

State your degree in English. You don't have one, do you?

I actually have a masters degree in Linguistics, so I could help you with your errors in many languages. I have taught English, and History, and quite a few other subjects for over 26 years. And you are..............?
You should be arrested for treason ..

Why?
You have lied to children ......

That is not the definition of treason, but what lie do you imagine?
Treason is used by the common ppl [sic] many different ways......

Words have meanings, champ.
Do you know what slang is? Can you hang with us common folk?
 

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