The Civil War

[Unkotare]

Democrats are not "most Americans." They are Nazis though

Your hyper-partisan alienation from the United States is unfortunate.

Your nazis are Trump goons, of course, on record as having endorsed their "God Emperor" twice, still supporting the Loser.

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Bull shit. Democrats are very much going to destroying [sic] people's lives and violence [sic] for standing up to them. Being a kid or an old man don't [sic] even protect you if you're wearing a red hat. Now you're just flagrantly stealing elections. You are Nazis, no doubt about it

Learn English or get the fuck out of my country, stupid.

Figures, now you're looking for typos on an internet message board. ......

"Typos"?
Every semi-literate moron who can barely manage to communicate in his first language falls back on "typos."

You attacked me for a sentence that would have been fixed with a comma. ......

Thanks for proving that it was more than a "typo." A comma won't solve your problems.

 

[kaz]

You attacked me for a sentence that would have been fixed with a comma. ......

Thanks for proving that it was more than a "typo." A comma won't solve your problems.

State your degree in English. You don't have one, do you?

 

[Unkotare]

Read the whole thread, idiot.

It’s real simple a war is started for a reason there is a declaration can you please provide it if not ...

Unkortare's argument is that the slavery is evil and that makes the South evil. ...

I didn't say the South is evil. Stop lying, brainless.

 

[there4eyeM]

thus topic should be renamed into "The 1st Civil war", since the US is gradually slipping into the 2nd Civil war.
Some observers think the US is alreday in state of "warm" civil war, which will gradually develop into a hot one.. ..

That is the dream of America's enemies (foreign and domestic). It is a dream that will not come true.

why won't it come true? though, you are correct, Civil war is going on already.

The nation is split on racial and social lines.
Split along these lines gets deeper and bigger, since :

- Whites are gradually decrease in numbers, by 2045 they will be minority in the US, they are already minority in several states and will becone minority in the South-Western belt of states From Califirnia to Taxes (Latinos are already 52% in New Mexico).
And what is more important - Whites increasinly start voting as Whites, not just according to their political preferences.

Latin American citizens and immigrants are increasingly Socialist - in states with big Latin share (South-West) a Socialist Bernie Sanders defeated moderate liberal Biden.

So, aside of perspectives of just civil war there are very good perspectives of separatism and disintegration of the US in 10 years approximately, when 2 rows of states bordering Mexico become predominantly Spanish speaking and Latino.

plus, there is a campaign of mass repressions against half of America which lost elections - "domestic terrorists" are being silenced, thrown out of job for their views, cancel culture, mass persecution, mass censorship and ban of tens of thousands of Trumpists by social nets - this is already warm civil war.

People already started dying in this war, just the process is slightly retarded by demoralization of Republicans.

I presume after Republicans realize that due to demographic changes they have lost any chances forever to ever control any branch of power on the federal level - they will revolt.

Republicans will never have their president. They will never get any chamber of Congress.

Just because Whites are becoming a minority fast.

It isn't that I am correct, it is that you are incorrect.

prove it

Again? You already have.

 

[Unkotare]

You attacked me for a sentence that would have been fixed with a comma. ......

Thanks for proving that it was more than a "typo." A comma won't solve your problems.

State your degree in English. You don't have one, do you?

I actually have a masters degree in Linguistics, so I could help you with your errors in many languages. I have taught English, and History, and quite a few other subjects for over 26 years. And you are..............?

 

[there4eyeM]

The Civil War was all about slavery, OK? It wasn't the War of Northern Aggression or the War Between the States. That's bullshit. It was a Civil War, and it was about slavery. Denying that is like denying that the Nazis murdered millions of Jews in concentration camps... oh, wait, you deny that, too?

Only it wasn't.
If Lincoln had stated that he was going to ban slavery and emancipate the slaves and the South refused. Then you could say it was fought over slavery but that never happened. Lincoln had no intention of banning slavery. It was just that as Sherman had pushed deep into Georgia it was a smart military tactic to cause maximum disruption.

And I'm as left-wing as you can get.

There would never have been a Civil War if the south had not had slavery.

I'm sure a lot of things wouldn't have happened "IF"......

....but it did.

Greg

Yes, because of slavery.

 

[Siberian]

thus topic should be renamed into "The 1st Civil war", since the US is gradually slipping into the 2nd Civil war.
Some observers think the US is alreday in state of "warm" civil war, which will gradually develop into a hot one.. ..

That is the dream of America's enemies (foreign and domestic). It is a dream that will not come true.

why won't it come true? though, you are correct, Civil war is going on already.

The nation is split on racial and social lines.
Split along these lines gets deeper and bigger, since :

- Whites are gradually decrease in numbers, by 2045 they will be minority in the US, they are already minority in several states and will becone minority in the South-Western belt of states From Califirnia to Taxes (Latinos are already 52% in New Mexico).
And what is more important - Whites increasinly start voting as Whites, not just according to their political preferences.

Latin American citizens and immigrants are increasingly Socialist - in states with big Latin share (South-West) a Socialist Bernie Sanders defeated moderate liberal Biden.

So, aside of perspectives of just civil war there are very good perspectives of separatism and disintegration of the US in 10 years approximately, when 2 rows of states bordering Mexico become predominantly Spanish speaking and Latino.

plus, there is a campaign of mass repressions against half of America which lost elections - "domestic terrorists" are being silenced, thrown out of job for their views, cancel culture, mass persecution, mass censorship and ban of tens of thousands of Trumpists by social nets - this is already warm civil war.

People already started dying in this war, just the process is slightly retarded by demoralization of Republicans.

I presume after Republicans realize that due to demographic changes they have lost any chances forever to ever control any branch of power on the federal level - they will revolt.

Republicans will never have their president. They will never get any chamber of Congress.

Just because Whites are becoming a minority fast.

It isn't that I am correct, it is that you are incorrect.

prove it

Again? You already have.

you seem to be a Democrat, they never engage in fair fight...

 

[Theledgened]

You attacked me for a sentence that would have been fixed with a comma. ......

Thanks for proving that it was more than a "typo." A comma won't solve your problems.

State your degree in English. You don't have one, do you?

I actually have a masters degree in Linguistics, so I could help you with your errors in many languages. I have taught English, and History, and quite a few other subjects for over 26 years. And you are..............?

You should be arrested for treason .. stay away from our children you creep

 

[Unkotare]

.... he goes on to say that justifies conquering the South and forcing them to stay in the United States.
....

I didn't say that.

 

[kaz]

Read the whole thread, idiot.

It’s real simple a war is started for a reason there is a declaration can you please provide it if not ...

Unkortare's argument is that the slavery is evil and that makes the South evil. ...

I didn't say the South is evil. Stop lying, brainless.

I realize you don't have a degree in English, but I didn't use quote marks. You clearly did say as a reasonable paraphrase that the South was evil. You did not use that word, which is why I didn't use quote marks. Get back to me when you have an English degree

 

[kaz]

.... he goes on to say that justifies conquering the South and forcing them to stay in the United States.
....

I didn't say that.

If he does read the thread he'll see you said that repeatedly and are just lying now

 

[there4eyeM]

You didn't answer the question, you ignorant coward.

You mean you object to people not answering your questions?

Really?

Unkotare didn't know what his own question was. He doesn't know the difference between the American government and the American people.

He wanted me to answer his question without him even knowing what he asked me. Pass

Dat Boy is confused about a lot of things. With only only having a Jr High School History text knowledge of the Civil War, written by the winners, he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground about what he is talking about.

He needs to do the homework assignment that I gave him. That way he won't look like a fool when he post his uneducated dribble.

I thought he said one time that he was a teacher. If he was telling the truth then he should know the value of learning something about a topic before opening his mouth. I gave him an assignment to read up on the topic but like all idiot Libtards he is doesn't want to learn.

If Unkotare would just say he knows what consent of the governed means, he just doesn't believe in it, then we all could just all say we disagree on that, live and go on.

But he keeps arguing that government conquering half it's own country doesn't violate consent of the governed, which is just stupid.

He also keeps arguing that southerners were evil salvers (they were), but that somehow justifies him conquering them and forcing them to stay in his country, which is just bizarre

In addition, he like so many duped Americans with only a government school understanding of the war, doesn’t know that the war was not a civil war. The South had no intentions of conquering or controlling the North. The definition of a civil war requires that both parties are fighting for control of the entire nation.

It was the War of Northern Aggression.

No one disputes that slavery was evil and needed terminating. However, the Lincoln Cult needs to accept what Dishonest Abe did was illegal and caused unbelievable harm to not only the South, but the entire nation.

Lincoln may have used extra-Constitutional measures to save the Union, but that hardly compares to the extra-Constitutional attempt of the south to destroy that Union. If anything, Lincoln's excesses were made necessary by the situation imposed upon the nation by those seeking to sabotage it.

Isn't "extra-Constitutional" illegal?? This is an interesting article.

Fourth and finally, Lincoln denied that the Constitution was silent with respect to secession. The immediate predecessor to the Constitution, the Articles of Confederation, purported to establish a "perpetual Union." By seeking to create what the Preamble calls "a more perfect Union"--in an echo of the Articles' language--the Constitution, Lincoln said, simply strengthened the already indissoluble bonds between the States.

But the Constitution itself was established in blatant violation of the terms of the Articles--which required unanimous consent of the states for any amendment. Moreover, how do we know that the "perfection" of the Union required stronger rather than weaker bonds? To infer this point from the fact that, on the whole, the Constitution created a stronger national government than existed under the Articles is to acknowledge that the real work in this argument is not being done by the language of the Preamble.

Does the Constitution Permit the Blue States to Secede? | FindLaw

Read Legal Commentary: Does the Constitution Permit the Blue States to Secede? at FindLaw.com

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So, either a more perfect Perpetual Union was made, or the new document is invalid and the original Perpetual Union remained. It's a win-win for the Union.

 

[Flash]

You didn't answer the question, you ignorant coward.

You mean you object to people not answering your questions?

Really?

Unkotare didn't know what his own question was. He doesn't know the difference between the American government and the American people.

He wanted me to answer his question without him even knowing what he asked me. Pass

Dat Boy is confused about a lot of things. With only only having a Jr High School History text knowledge of the Civil War, written by the winners, he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground about what he is talking about.

He needs to do the homework assignment that I gave him. That way he won't look like a fool when he post his uneducated dribble.

I thought he said one time that he was a teacher. If he was telling the truth then he should know the value of learning something about a topic before opening his mouth. I gave him an assignment to read up on the topic but like all idiot Libtards he is doesn't want to learn.

If Unkotare would just say he knows what consent of the governed means, he just doesn't believe in it, then we all could just all say we disagree on that, live and go on.

But he keeps arguing that government conquering half it's own country doesn't violate consent of the governed, which is just stupid.

He also keeps arguing that southerners were evil salvers (they were), but that somehow justifies him conquering them and forcing them to stay in his country, which is just bizarre

In addition, he like so many duped Americans with only a government school understanding of the war, doesn’t know that the war was not a civil war. The South had no intentions of conquering or controlling the North. The definition of a civil war requires that both parties are fighting for control of the entire nation.

It was the War of Northern Aggression.

No one disputes that slavery was evil and needed terminating. However, the Lincoln Cult needs to accept what Dishonest Abe did was illegal and caused unbelievable harm to not only the South, but the entire nation.

Lincoln may have used extra-Constitutional measures to save the Union, but that hardly compares to the extra-Constitutional attempt of the south to destroy that Union. If anything, Lincoln's excesses were made necessary by the situation imposed upon the nation by those seeking to sabotage it.

Isn't "extra-Constitutional" illegal?? This is an interesting article.

Fourth and finally, Lincoln denied that the Constitution was silent with respect to secession. The immediate predecessor to the Constitution, the Articles of Confederation, purported to establish a "perpetual Union." By seeking to create what the Preamble calls "a more perfect Union"--in an echo of the Articles' language--the Constitution, Lincoln said, simply strengthened the already indissoluble bonds between the States.

But the Constitution itself was established in blatant violation of the terms of the Articles--which required unanimous consent of the states for any amendment. Moreover, how do we know that the "perfection" of the Union required stronger rather than weaker bonds? To infer this point from the fact that, on the whole, the Constitution created a stronger national government than existed under the Articles is to acknowledge that the real work in this argument is not being done by the language of the Preamble.

Does the Constitution Permit the Blue States to Secede? | FindLaw

Read Legal Commentary: Does the Constitution Permit the Blue States to Secede? at FindLaw.com

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Any state can secede. However (like all rebellions) they just have to back it up when the filthy government sends troops to kill the people.

 

[Unkotare]

You attacked me for a sentence that would have been fixed with a comma. ......

Thanks for proving that it was more than a "typo." A comma won't solve your problems.

State your degree in English. You don't have one, do you?

I actually have a masters degree in Linguistics, so I could help you with your errors in many languages. I have taught English, and History, and quite a few other subjects for over 26 years. And you are..............?

You should be arrested for treason ..

Why?

 

[Theledgened]

You attacked me for a sentence that would have been fixed with a comma. ......

Thanks for proving that it was more than a "typo." A comma won't solve your problems.

State your degree in English. You don't have one, do you?

I actually have a masters degree in Linguistics, so I could help you with your errors in many languages. I have taught English, and History, and quite a few other subjects for over 26 years. And you are..............?

You should be arrested for treason ..

Why?

You have lied to children in an authoritative position. You have destroyed the minds of young people. And you have no remorse

 

[Siberian]

I actually have a masters degree in Linguistics, so I could help you with your errors in many languages.

many languages? American, English and Broken English?
Americans don't speak foreign languages...

 

[kaz]

You attacked me for a sentence that would have been fixed with a comma. ......

Thanks for proving that it was more than a "typo." A comma won't solve your problems.

State your degree in English. You don't have one, do you?

I actually have a masters degree in Linguistics, so I could help you with your errors in many languages. I have taught English, and History, and quite a few other subjects for over 26 years. And you are..............?

None of those are English degrees. You are completely unqualified to discuss grammar

 

[there4eyeM]

thus topic should be renamed into "The 1st Civil war", since the US is gradually slipping into the 2nd Civil war.
Some observers think the US is alreday in state of "warm" civil war, which will gradually develop into a hot one.. ..

That is the dream of America's enemies (foreign and domestic). It is a dream that will not come true.

why won't it come true? though, you are correct, Civil war is going on already.

The nation is split on racial and social lines.
Split along these lines gets deeper and bigger, since :

- Whites are gradually decrease in numbers, by 2045 they will be minority in the US, they are already minority in several states and will becone minority in the South-Western belt of states From Califirnia to Taxes (Latinos are already 52% in New Mexico).
And what is more important - Whites increasinly start voting as Whites, not just according to their political preferences.

Latin American citizens and immigrants are increasingly Socialist - in states with big Latin share (South-West) a Socialist Bernie Sanders defeated moderate liberal Biden.

So, aside of perspectives of just civil war there are very good perspectives of separatism and disintegration of the US in 10 years approximately, when 2 rows of states bordering Mexico become predominantly Spanish speaking and Latino.

plus, there is a campaign of mass repressions against half of America which lost elections - "domestic terrorists" are being silenced, thrown out of job for their views, cancel culture, mass persecution, mass censorship and ban of tens of thousands of Trumpists by social nets - this is already warm civil war.

People already started dying in this war, just the process is slightly retarded by demoralization of Republicans.

I presume after Republicans realize that due to demographic changes they have lost any chances forever to ever control any branch of power on the federal level - they will revolt.

Republicans will never have their president. They will never get any chamber of Congress.

Just because Whites are becoming a minority fast.

It isn't that I am correct, it is that you are incorrect.

prove it

Again? You already have.

you seem to be a Democrat, they never engage in fair fight...

Fight? Democrat? You are imaging things.

 

[Unkotare]

.... he goes on to say that justifies conquering the South and forcing them to stay in the United States.
....

I didn't say that.

If he does read the thread he'll see you said that repeatedly and are just lying now

I did not say that. Quelling the murderous antics of scumbag criminals like the so-called 'confederates' most certainly is NOT "conquering the South and forcing them to stay in the United States." THAT is just the bitter, impotent lie you and your boyfriend keep repeating.

 

[kaz]

You didn't answer the question, you ignorant coward.

You mean you object to people not answering your questions?

Really?

Unkotare didn't know what his own question was. He doesn't know the difference between the American government and the American people.

He wanted me to answer his question without him even knowing what he asked me. Pass

Dat Boy is confused about a lot of things. With only only having a Jr High School History text knowledge of the Civil War, written by the winners, he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground about what he is talking about.

He needs to do the homework assignment that I gave him. That way he won't look like a fool when he post his uneducated dribble.

I thought he said one time that he was a teacher. If he was telling the truth then he should know the value of learning something about a topic before opening his mouth. I gave him an assignment to read up on the topic but like all idiot Libtards he is doesn't want to learn.

If Unkotare would just say he knows what consent of the governed means, he just doesn't believe in it, then we all could just all say we disagree on that, live and go on.

But he keeps arguing that government conquering half it's own country doesn't violate consent of the governed, which is just stupid.

He also keeps arguing that southerners were evil salvers (they were), but that somehow justifies him conquering them and forcing them to stay in his country, which is just bizarre

In addition, he like so many duped Americans with only a government school understanding of the war, doesn’t know that the war was not a civil war. The South had no intentions of conquering or controlling the North. The definition of a civil war requires that both parties are fighting for control of the entire nation.

It was the War of Northern Aggression.

No one disputes that slavery was evil and needed terminating. However, the Lincoln Cult needs to accept what Dishonest Abe did was illegal and caused unbelievable harm to not only the South, but the entire nation.

Lincoln may have used extra-Constitutional measures to save the Union, but that hardly compares to the extra-Constitutional attempt of the south to destroy that Union. If anything, Lincoln's excesses were made necessary by the situation imposed upon the nation by those seeking to sabotage it.

Isn't "extra-Constitutional" illegal?? This is an interesting article.

Fourth and finally, Lincoln denied that the Constitution was silent with respect to secession. The immediate predecessor to the Constitution, the Articles of Confederation, purported to establish a "perpetual Union." By seeking to create what the Preamble calls "a more perfect Union"--in an echo of the Articles' language--the Constitution, Lincoln said, simply strengthened the already indissoluble bonds between the States.

But the Constitution itself was established in blatant violation of the terms of the Articles--which required unanimous consent of the states for any amendment. Moreover, how do we know that the "perfection" of the Union required stronger rather than weaker bonds? To infer this point from the fact that, on the whole, the Constitution created a stronger national government than existed under the Articles is to acknowledge that the real work in this argument is not being done by the language of the Preamble.

Does the Constitution Permit the Blue States to Secede? | FindLaw

Read Legal Commentary: Does the Constitution Permit the Blue States to Secede? at FindLaw.com

supreme.findlaw.com

So, either a more perfect Perpetual Union was made, or the new document is invalid and the original Perpetual Union remained. It's a win-win for the Union.

Government wins, yeah team!

I'm for the people though, and we lost