The black view on the 2020 presidential election

[Olde Europe]

Ain't no way on earth is black support for trump 80 percent.

I don't believe that it is 80 percent among any demographic.

White evangelicals.

 

[katsteve2012]

Ain't no way on earth is black support for trump 80 percent.

I don't believe that it is 80 percent among any demographic.

White evangelicals.

Makes sense.

 

[Olde Europe]

Ain't no way on earth is black support for trump 80 percent.

I don't believe that it is 80 percent among any demographic.

White evangelicals.

Makes sense.

Trump Elected President, Thanks to 4 in 5 White Evangelicals

Exit polls suggest that “Never Trump” was never a likely outcome for white evangelical voters, who showed up to support President-elect Donald Trump at their highest margin since 2004.

Despite reservations expressed by many evangelical and Republican leaders, white born-again/evangelical Christians cast their ballots for the controversial real estate mogul-turned-politician at an 81 percent to 16 percent margin over Hillary Clinton.​

 

[Thunderbird]

It’s foolish for a given group to always automatically vote for a particular party. That party will take the group for granted and ignore its interests. It’s just bad strategy. The prevailing Democrat elites are devoted to transgender activism and the abortion industry while they ignore the needs of African Americans.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

So 15% said they would vote for him. You do realize if 15% of black voters pick Trump he wins.

22 people in that poll said they would vote for trump. There are 47 million blacks and probably 30 million eligible to vote. I doubt if he gets 4.5 million black votes. He going to have to hand out a whole lot more brown envelopes to get to15 percent.

He doesn't need to get to 15%. He won 9% last time, I believe. He only needs to up that percentage to 11 or 12 and he's a lock. Bear in mind, that if he increases his percentage of black voters it's also likely the same will happen with Hispanics and Asians.

 

[IM2]

Nowhere in the white community is an 80 percent disapproval rating looked at as something great. But here it's "if we can get 80 percent of the blacks to dislike trump we can win." Wow, that's sure some incentive to vote republican.

 

[IM2]

It’s foolish for a given group to always automatically vote for a particular party. That party will take the group for granted and ignore its interests. It’s just bad strategy. The prevailing Democrat elites are devoted to transgender activism and the abortion industry while they ignore the needs of African Americans.

Wrong. 75 percent of Asians vote democrat but we don't see them getting attacked. Nor do we see statements like you made pertaining to Asians. Until the racist base stops controlling the republican party and it's policies, forget about black membership.

 

[Thunderbird]

It’s foolish for a given group to always automatically vote for a particular party. That party will take the group for granted and ignore its interests. It’s just bad strategy. The prevailing Democrat elites are devoted to transgender activism and the abortion industry while they ignore the needs of African Americans.

Wrong. 75 percent of Asians vote democrat but we don't see them getting attacked. Nor do we see statements like you made pertaining to Asians. Until the racist base stops controlling the republican party and it's policies, forget about black membership.

I’m not attacking anyone. I’m just commenting on a poor strategy.

Asian are more likely to identify as independent compared to blacks.

 

[imawhosure]

There has been no abuse of power against trump, there has been by trump.

You're a hoot... 3 years of Russia Russia Russia and having politically crazed leaders call him a TRAITOR?? The FBI ABUSING the most important court in the land?? The one that guards the keys to that Awesome DOMESTIC Spy Machine that you let Wash D.C. build???

12 people fired, demoted, transferred, quit voluntarily at the TOP LEVELS of that FBI?

OK man.. Go back to whatever you're tokking on...

I think I know what blacks were thinking when trump took office. There has been no abuse of power against trump, there has been by trump. Blacks have been long fed up with the things you talk about, in fact we've been tired of it for 243 years. We are tired of the white narrative talking about gang violence in our community when its worse in yours. The blacks you are talking about really don't exist and we know the republican party cannot provide what we need. In fact they are opposed to solutions we present to solve problem we see. So spare me the white boy trying to explain to me how blacks see things. We don't see things like you say.

The blacks you claim to be woke are asleep.

I think you as a black person are in great trouble, because president Trump is a white person, and the preferred Democrats candidates are also white persons.

Having the fact that you say you are against white people in power, then in the next coming elections you won't vote, unless there is a black person as a candidate for being the next president.

You take the position of representing the whole black population in the US, so on November will be a great vacuum caused by the absentee vote of black people.

Lets wait until November and check how truthful are your messages. I truly hope for you to be correct with your statements, but believe me, I won't be disappointed if the results prove you wrong.

So white republicans in these forums who are desperately pandering to blacks by using the most racist attempts to outreach by lying about the republican past and invoking images of plantations need to stop trying to paint every democrat as the man who did worse then our current president who came down the escalator and opened up his campaign with racism and has continued with it ever since.

Poll: Overwhelming majority of black voters back any 2020 Democrat over Trump

An overwhelming majority of black voters — 85 percent — said in a new Hill-HarrisX poll that they would choose any Democratic presidential candidate over President Trump

So 15% said they would vote for him. You do realize if 15% of black voters pick Trump he wins.

An overwhelming majority of black voters — 85 percent — said in a new Hill-HarrisX poll that they would choose any Democratic presidential candidate over President Trump

So 15% said they would vote for him. You do realize if 15% of black voters pick Trump he wins.

22 people in that pole said they would vote for trump. There are 47 million blacks and probably 30 million eligible to vote. I doubt if he gets 4.5 million black votes. He going to have to hand out a whole lot more brown envelopes to get to15 percent.

And of that 30 million who are eligible to vote, based on previous elections approximately 55 to 60% actually will, unless there is a compelling reason that pushes the percentage higher.

So that means approximately 18 million blacks will vote and trump lovers think that at least 2.7 million blacks are going to vote for trump.

That's about the size of it. The resident loon here even implied that the number would be about 16 million, and that Trumps approval rate is likely closer to 80%.

Ain't no way on earth is black support for trump 80 percent.

Throughout this thread, IM has been screaming RACISM, RACISM, and more RACISM!

He also brings up SLAVERY, SLAVERY, SLAVERY.

Does he have a point about SLAVERY?

Of course he does! Black people were treated as property. WHITEY took the fruits of Black peoples labor, then sat on their WHITEY ass in South, enjoyed life to its fullest, while BLACK people toiled away for nothing, and were controlled by whips to make them produce for Southern WHITEY. Southern WHITEY had the life of Riley, and Black people had hell on earth. Southern Whitey didn't allow their slaves to be married, raped their Black slaves, and if a child was born from the rape, that child too became the property of Southern WHITEY!

It was a fu**ing abomination what in the hell was going on!

The ONLY word that IM forgets to inject is this---------------->it was not Southern whitey, it was SOUTHERN, DEMOCRAT WHITEY!

So now, lets fast forward a to recently modern times, and in most instances, modern times!

We now have the NEW plantations know as DEMOCRAT cities, where Black people now have ROLE REVERSALS.

Instead of DEMOCRAT WHITEY enslaving them for the fruits of their labor, they now have DEMOCRAT WHITEY enslaving them by making Americans slaves to support BLACK PEOPLE! In essence, IM has become the EXACT type of people he despises so damn much!

Instead of being ENSLAVED on the Southern WHITEY, DEMOCRATIC plantation for their labor, he is instead enslaved other Americans to give him next to nothing, for his VOTE! He himself has become UNCLE TOM, by supporting WHITEY DEMOCRATS, as long as they take care of him, even as they won't allow him to move into prosperity. They gotta keep him, and his people on the DEMOCRATIC PLANTATION, because every free American knows that if they escape to the American dream, they to will RESIST the Democrats.

And what is the phrase they use for those that escaped and understand there is a better life?

Why the REAL Uncle Toms, call those who live the American dream Uncle Tom's, falsely!

How do we know the truth of this?

Because once Black Americans escape, it is a 60-40 split by them towards the GOP. But those who remain on the plantation of DEMOCRAT WHITEY, vote 97-3 for Democrat WHITEY!

That should tell ALL of us, that we have yet to free enough Black Americans from the DEMOCRATIC plantation, for if we had, the DEMOCRATS would be AGAIN, trying to throw the Black population under the proverbial bus like they did during reconstruction.

Can Trump change this situation?

Sadly, no. He can only free as many as he can from the DEMOCRATIC PLANTAION, then hope they see the light and join real freedom.

The numbers vary between 15 to 32% of Black support for Trump. If the REAL number falls anywhere between, the DEMOCRATIC PLANTATION is out of business for the next 5 years, and we as Americans can then do our very best to bring our Black American bretheren into the mainstream by hiring them, lifting them up as far as we can, and let them know that we ARE the American family.

If you are a Conservative and Trump wins as he should, do this for Black America, and for the next 40 to 50 years, you have buried the aspirations of the SOCIALIST Democrats.

 

[hadit]

Nowhere in the white community is an 80 percent disapproval rating looked at as something great. But here it's "if we can get 80 percent of the blacks to dislike trump we can win." Wow, that's sure some incentive to vote republican.

When the democrats absolutely need the black vote at 90%+ to win, it certainly is.

 

[22lcidw]

Ain't no way on earth is black support for trump 80 percent.

I don't believe that it is 80 percent among any demographic.

White evangelicals.

Makes sense.

Black evangelicals?

 

[katsteve2012]

Ain't no way on earth is black support for trump 80 percent.

I don't believe that it is 80 percent among any demographic.

White evangelicals.

Makes sense.

Black evangelicals?

No

 

[IM2]

Ain't no way on earth is black support for trump 80 percent.

I don't believe that it is 80 percent among any demographic.

White evangelicals.

Makes sense.

Black evangelicals?

Why do whites like you think that if you use the same words and attach them to blacks that it means the same thing? Blacks and whites have a completely different experience in America and it reflects in the theology of black people. A black evangelical is not taught that god made it the black destiny to be enslaved by whites in order to turn away from the sinfulness and godlessness they lived in in Africa. Yet white evangelicals believe they are gods chosen and America was given to them by God and that slavery was necessary for blacks to find Christianity. 2 completely different beliefs. So 80 percent of black evangelicals will not support trump.

Here is an example of the difference.

 

[hadit]

Ain't no way on earth is black support for trump 80 percent.

I don't believe that it is 80 percent among any demographic.

White evangelicals.

Makes sense.

Black evangelicals?

Why do whites like you think that if you use the same words and attach them to blacks that it means the same thing? Blacks and whites have a completely different experience in America and it reflects in the theology of black people. A black evangelical is not taught that god made it the black destiny to be enslaved by whites in order to turn away from the sinfulness and godlessness they lived in in Africa. Yet white evangelicals believe they are gods chosen and America was given to them by God and that slavery was necessary for blacks to find Christianity. 2 completely different beliefs. So 80 percent of black evangelicals will not support trump.

Here is an example of the difference.

Your understanding of what white evangelicals believe is as shortsighted and wrong as that against which you rail. It is no more accurate for you to say that "white evangelicals believe" than it is for a white person to say "black people believe". As you like to say, shut up until you learn better.

 

[IM2]

I don't believe that it is 80 percent among any demographic.

White evangelicals.

Makes sense.

Black evangelicals?

Why do whites like you think that if you use the same words and attach them to blacks that it means the same thing? Blacks and whites have a completely different experience in America and it reflects in the theology of black people. A black evangelical is not taught that god made it the black destiny to be enslaved by whites in order to turn away from the sinfulness and godlessness they lived in in Africa. Yet white evangelicals believe they are gods chosen and America was given to them by God and that slavery was necessary for blacks to find Christianity. 2 completely different beliefs. So 80 percent of black evangelicals will not support trump.

Here is an example of the difference.

Your understanding of what white evangelicals believe is as shortsighted and wrong as that against which you rail. It is no more accurate for you to say that "white evangelicals believe" than it is for a white person to say "black people believe". As you like to say, shut up until you learn better.

Not really, but it is expected that whites such as yourself will deny any such things about whites every time no matter how true they may be.

 

[hadit]

White evangelicals.

Makes sense.

Black evangelicals?

Why do whites like you think that if you use the same words and attach them to blacks that it means the same thing? Blacks and whites have a completely different experience in America and it reflects in the theology of black people. A black evangelical is not taught that god made it the black destiny to be enslaved by whites in order to turn away from the sinfulness and godlessness they lived in in Africa. Yet white evangelicals believe they are gods chosen and America was given to them by God and that slavery was necessary for blacks to find Christianity. 2 completely different beliefs. So 80 percent of black evangelicals will not support trump.

Here is an example of the difference.

Your understanding of what white evangelicals believe is as shortsighted and wrong as that against which you rail. It is no more accurate for you to say that "white evangelicals believe" than it is for a white person to say "black people believe". As you like to say, shut up until you learn better.

Not really, but it is expected that whites such as yourself will deny any such things about whites every time no matter how true they may be.

I, unlike you, do not claim to speak for anyone but me. That being said, I know enough white evangelicals to be able to say unequivocally that what you say "white evangelicals believe" is categorically false. There may be some somewhere that believe that garbage, but they are NOT mainstream and they are far from the majority. As I said, shut up until you learn. Just like you want people to grant you authority to say what black people think, grant someone else the authority to say what white people believe and quit trying to project what you think on them.

 

[IM2]

Makes sense.

Black evangelicals?

Why do whites like you think that if you use the same words and attach them to blacks that it means the same thing? Blacks and whites have a completely different experience in America and it reflects in the theology of black people. A black evangelical is not taught that god made it the black destiny to be enslaved by whites in order to turn away from the sinfulness and godlessness they lived in in Africa. Yet white evangelicals believe they are gods chosen and America was given to them by God and that slavery was necessary for blacks to find Christianity. 2 completely different beliefs. So 80 percent of black evangelicals will not support trump.

Here is an example of the difference.

Your understanding of what white evangelicals believe is as shortsighted and wrong as that against which you rail. It is no more accurate for you to say that "white evangelicals believe" than it is for a white person to say "black people believe". As you like to say, shut up until you learn better.

Not really, but it is expected that whites such as yourself will deny any such things about whites every time no matter how true they may be.

I, unlike you, do not claim to speak for anyone but me. That being said, I know enough white evangelicals to be able to say unequivocally that what you say "white evangelicals believe" is categorically false. There may be some somewhere that believe that garbage, but they are NOT mainstream and they are far from the majority. As I said, shut up until you learn. Just like you want people to grant you authority to say what black people think, grant someone else the authority to say what white people believe and quit trying to project what you think on them.

You can forget about trying that stale tactic. The you don't speak for all blacks crap whites like you always try when it is shown to them that blacks do not think like whites say we do goes nowhere here. MY COMMENTS ARE BASED ON POLLS DONE WITH BLACKS, COMMENTS IN BLACK FORUMS AND READING INFORMATION FROM BLACK ORGANIZATIONS. So I am not trying to speak for all blacks, I am speaking to what I have read coming from a majority of the black community. We don't like trump and when you guys want to brag about how 30 percent of blacks support him, you ignore the reality of what that 30 percent really means. If 30 percent of all blacks like trump. 2.5 times more blacks don't. That is what 70 percent equals when you divide it by 30 percent. So then I am speaking the truth as to the black view of the 2020 election whether you like it or not.

I won't shut up because unlike whites and black people, we blacks are consistently exposed to white people in all manners of social and professional situations. We have been educated in the manner of the white man. You have no understanding of the black community and much of what you claim about us is made up bullshit by whites who never spent any time with us. So I will speak on white evangelicals because I have associated with them. I have talked to them. I doubt if you have done so to the same extent with blacks. I don't need to be whitesplaned about things. It has been the view that blacks were enslaved so they could find Christianity. And that has been the view of white evangelicals. So you don't have to like it, you just have to accept that was the flawed thinking in the white evangelical church. Today that thinking manifests itself in supporting conservative policies and in fact during the Iraq war, evangelical pastors actually supported war.

So YOU need to understand that I come from a position of studying these things. I don't repeat crap off the top of my head. What I have said is true. What you don't like, I don't give a damn.

 

[IM2]

"PRRI also found that many white evangelicals don’t have positive views about America’s growing racial and ethnic diversity. PRRI asked survey participants how they felt about the fact that the U.S. census projections show that by 2045, African-Americans, Latinos, Asians and mixed racial and ethnic groups will together comprise a majority of the U.S. population.

Again, white evangelicals were the only major religious group in which a majority expressed negative feelings about this demographic change, PRRI reports. Fifty-four percent of white evangelical Protestants said that America becoming a majority-nonwhite nation by 2045 will have a mostly negative effect on the country.

On the other hand, most black Protestants (80 percent) and Hispanic Protestants (79 percent) thought the country’s coming racial and ethnic realignment will be mostly positive."

New Study Reveals White Evangelicals’ Troubling Beliefs On Race And Immigration | HuffPost

"I spent the first 15 years of my career as a scholar studying American evangelicals and race, and in my view, the failure to consider motivations rooted in anxieties about race and gender as an explanation of evangelical Trump support represents a striking omission. The history of American evangelicalism is intensely racially charged. The persistent approval for Trump among white evangelicals ought to prompt far more critical self-reflection within the evangelical community than we’ve seen so far.

Evangelicals’ tenacious affection for Donald Trump is not a bug driven by expediency. Instead, it reflects defining features of American evangelicalism that become clearer when we examine the historical record. Doing so reveals that when white conservative evangelicals feel threatened by cultural change, the old demons of racism and misogyny, which lurk at the heart of the American evangelical tradition, return with a vengeance. Trump is just another chapter in that story."

The racial demons that help explain evangelical support for Trump

"Over the course of the 20th century, the evangelical coalition entwined theology, whiteness, and conservative politics. The histories we tell about that movement demand attention to all three aspects. By using theological markers to define evangelicalism, we miss the ways cultural and political forces have shaped the movement. To identify as evangelical in the early 21st century signals commitments to gun rights, the abolition of legal abortion, and low taxes. It’s next to impossible to understand these commitments through the prism of theology alone. But when we understand evangelical as an identity forged in the contexts of Jim Crow segregation, a struggle against second-wave feminism, and fears of a tyrannical federal government, the origin of these commitments becomes clearer.

Evangelicals are not any whiter, demographically, than mainliners or Mormons. But they have rallied around Trump to defend a white Protestant nation. They have proven to be loyal foot soldiers in the battle against undocumented immigrants and Muslims. The triumph of gay rights, the persistence of legal abortion, and the election of Barack Obama signaled to them a need to fight for the America they once knew. The history of American evangelicalism shows us a group of believers who find the most in common when it comes to race and politics."

Whiteness in American evangelical history

 

[hadit]

Black evangelicals?

Why do whites like you think that if you use the same words and attach them to blacks that it means the same thing? Blacks and whites have a completely different experience in America and it reflects in the theology of black people. A black evangelical is not taught that god made it the black destiny to be enslaved by whites in order to turn away from the sinfulness and godlessness they lived in in Africa. Yet white evangelicals believe they are gods chosen and America was given to them by God and that slavery was necessary for blacks to find Christianity. 2 completely different beliefs. So 80 percent of black evangelicals will not support trump.

Here is an example of the difference.

Your understanding of what white evangelicals believe is as shortsighted and wrong as that against which you rail. It is no more accurate for you to say that "white evangelicals believe" than it is for a white person to say "black people believe". As you like to say, shut up until you learn better.

Not really, but it is expected that whites such as yourself will deny any such things about whites every time no matter how true they may be.

I, unlike you, do not claim to speak for anyone but me. That being said, I know enough white evangelicals to be able to say unequivocally that what you say "white evangelicals believe" is categorically false. There may be some somewhere that believe that garbage, but they are NOT mainstream and they are far from the majority. As I said, shut up until you learn. Just like you want people to grant you authority to say what black people think, grant someone else the authority to say what white people believe and quit trying to project what you think on them.

You can forget about trying that stale tactic. The you don't speak for all blacks crap whites like you always try when it is shown to them that blacks do not think like whites say we do goes nowhere here. MY COMMENTS ARE BASED ON POLLS DONE WITH BLACKS, COMMENTS IN BLACK FORUMS AND READING INFORMATION FROM BLACK ORGANIZATIONS. So I am not trying to speak for all blacks, I am speaking to what I have read coming from a majority of the black community. We don't like trump and when you guys want to brag about how 30 percent of blacks support him, you ignore the reality of what that 30 percent really means. If 30 percent of all blacks like trump. 2.5 times more blacks don't. That is what 70 percent equals when you divide it by 30 percent. So then I am speaking the truth as to the black view of the 2020 election whether you like it or not.

I won't shut up because unlike whites and black people, we blacks are consistently exposed to white people in all manners of social and professional situations. We have been educated in the manner of the white man. You have no understanding of the black community and much of what you claim about us is made up bullshit by whites who never spent any time with us. So I will speak on white evangelicals because I have associated with them. I have talked to them. I doubt if you have done so to the same extent with blacks. I don't need to be whitesplaned about things. It has been the view that blacks were enslaved so they could find Christianity. And that has been the view of white evangelicals. So you don't have to like it, you just have to accept that was the flawed thinking in the white evangelical church. Today that thinking manifests itself in supporting conservative policies and in fact during the Iraq war, evangelical pastors actually supported war.

So YOU need to understand that I come from a position of studying these things. I don't repeat crap off the top of my head. What I have said is true. What you don't like, I don't give a damn.

Name the mainstream white Evangelical leaders who TODAY espouse the view that Africans were enslaved so they could be converted. Then demonstrate that they represent, failing a majority, at least a significant minority of white Evangelicals. If you can't/won't, shut up about "white Evangelicals believe".

Also, quote me where I said Trump had 30% black support. Again, if you can't/won't, why are you trying to say I did?

 

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