Zone1 The Best Evidence For The Resurrection

[Meriweather]

I'm sure you honestly believe you had a real experience of God

Have a nice day.

 

[DennisPTate]

It's pretty simple actually. I REALLY want to see the atheists response to this question.

Good point.....
just as Satan disputed even with the Archangel Michael over the body of Moses......
to what lengths would Satan have gone if he could have gotten hold of the body of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus?

8Likewise also these dreamers defile the flesh, reject authority, and speak evil of dignitaries. 9Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” 10But these speak evil of whatever they do not know; and whatever they know naturally, like brute beasts, in these things they corrupt themselves. 11Woe to them! For they have gone in the way of Cain, have run greedily in the error of Balaam for profit, and perished in the rebellion of Korah.

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[Lockback]

Insufficient evidence. The Bible has lots of people coming back from the dead but I've never seen it nor has anyone else I know.

Study the Shroud of Turin and get back to us.

 

[alang1216]

Study the Shroud of Turin and get back to us.

I did and find it not yet settled since there are numerous questions and 'maybes'. The biggest one, IF the shroud is genuine, is the question of who was wrapped in it.

 

[Meriweather]

I did and find it not yet settled since there are numerous questions and 'maybes'. The biggest one, IF the shroud is genuine, is the question of who was wrapped in it.

Always supposing it was determined that resurrection was the answer of why the image of a man was retained on the burial cloth: There are no other stories of a crucified man returning to life. Would that have an impact on people believing the Gospels, or would people determine other stories were likely--they just didn't survive?

 

[GLASNOST]

The Best Evidence For The Resurrection is that "there ain't no body"? Wha'cha mean? The earth is covered with bodies ... and then there are those that have been cremated. ​

 

[ChristisKing]

The Best Evidence For The Resurrection is that "there ain't no body"? Wha'cha mean? The earth is covered with bodies ... and then there are those that have been cremated. ​

Meaning the body of Christ lol

 

[alang1216]

Always supposing it was determined that resurrection was the answer of why the image of a man was retained on the burial cloth: There are no other stories of a crucified man returning to life. Would that have an impact on people believing the Gospels, or would people determine other stories were likely--they just didn't survive?

IF it was determined that resurrection was the answer of why the image of a man was retained on the burial cloth, consider me a Christian.

 

[ChristisKing]

I still find it rather interesting that they supposedly know basics where everybody in the Bible is buried including Jesus and I'm guessing that they have bones to prove it, but definitely no bones in the tomb of Christ.

 

[Anarchy666]

I'm sure that the eyewitnesses were simply recounting their honest interpretation of the situation. However, there are plenty of substances (such as pufferfish venom) that were available at the time that could slow the heartrate to near-zero, displaying characteristics most people would've interpreted at that time as being "death". The symptoms usually last around 3 days. Ergo, a non-supernatural explanation is more likely.

 

[GLASNOST]

I still find it rather interesting that they supposedly know basics where everybody in the Bible is buried including Jesus and I'm guessing that they have bones to prove it, but definitely no bones in the tomb of Christ.

They say Ted Bundy murdered his mother and buried her under his house but there are no bones there so she must have been resurrected! She was probably the Virgin Mary reincarnated!

 

[ding]

They say Ted Bundy murdered his mother and buried her under his house but there are no bones there so she must have been resurrected! She was probably the Virgin Mary reincarnated!

^^^Sophistry.

In all Jesus appeared a dozen different times over forty days to more than 515 individuals. He appeared to women and to men, He appeared to individuals and to groups, He appeared indoors and outdoors, He appeared to people who were skeptics and people who were believers, He appeared to people who were hardhearted and people who were tenderhearted. And He talked with people, He ate with people, He even invited Thomas - the skeptic, the doubter - to put his finger in the nail holes in His hands, put his hand in the spear wound in His side - to see and touch the evidence himself. Then what was Thomas's reaction? To say, "My Lord and my God!" He became convinced by the evidence that Jesus had returned from the dead. And what does history tell us about Thomas? He spent the rest of his life declaring Jesus did return from the dead, He is the Son of God, even to the point of being put to death for his faith in southern India.

 

[Hypatia415]

It's pretty simple actually. I REALLY want to see the atheists response to this question.

There is no evidence for a resurrection. The four gospel narratives of who went to the tomb and what they found when they got there are contradictory. Furthermore those stories are in texts written decades after the supposed event.

Our earliest source, Paul, makes no mention of tombs, young men/angels, earthquakes, or soldiers collapsing in dead faints.

 

[Hypatia415]

^^^Sophistry.

In all Jesus appeared a dozen different times over forty days to more than 515 individuals. He appeared to women and to men, He appeared to individuals and to groups, He appeared indoors and outdoors, He appeared to people who were skeptics and people who were believers, He appeared to people who were hardhearted and people who were tenderhearted. And He talked with people, He ate with people, He even invited Thomas - the skeptic, the doubter - to put his finger in the nail holes in His hands, put his hand in the spear wound in His side - to see and touch the evidence himself. Then what was Thomas's reaction? To say, "My Lord and my God!" He became convinced by the evidence that Jesus had returned from the dead. And what does history tell us about Thomas? He spent the rest of his life declaring Jesus did return from the dead, He is the Son of God, even to the point of being put to death for his faith in southern India.

Those are all from much later texts written by individuals who had no connection with the events in the early decades of the first century CE.

 

[GLASNOST]

There is no evidence for a resurrection.

That's because there ain't none and never was.

 

[Hypatia415]

That's because there ain't none and never was.

Precisely.

 

[GLASNOST]

There is no evidence for a resurrection.

That's because there ain't none and never was.

Precisely.

And since I wrote that there still hasn't been even one.

 

[Hypatia415]

And since I wrote that there still hasn't been even one.

We have already agreed on this.

 

[GLASNOST]

We have already agreed on this.

Yes, I know. My comment was meant for the emoticom on #55.

 

[ding]

There is no evidence for a resurrection. The four gospel narratives of who went to the tomb and what they found when they got there are contradictory. Furthermore those stories are in texts written decades after the supposed event.

Our earliest source, Paul, makes no mention of tombs, young men/angels, earthquakes, or soldiers collapsing in dead faints.

All four canonical Gospels make a concerted and central effort to portray that Jesus rose from the dead, presenting it as a physical, historical, and transformative event. While the narratives differ in specific details—which scholars often interpret as complementary, independent eyewitness accounts rather than contradictions—they consistently agree on the core truth that the tomb was empty and Jesus appeared to his followers.

Key Evidence of a Concerted Effort

The Gospels employ several strategies to assert the reality of the resurrection:

• The Empty Tomb & Early Witnesses: All four Gospels record that women were the first witnesses to the empty tomb on Sunday morning, an detail that would have been unlikely to be fabricated in 1st-century Jewish culture where a woman's testimony was often not accepted.
• Physicality of the Risen Jesus: To combat early notions that Jesus only rose spiritually, the Gospels emphasize a physical resurrection. Luke 24:39-43 describes Jesus eating fish and showing his "flesh and bones," while John 20:24-29 features Jesus inviting Thomas to touch his wounds.
• Post-Resurrection Appearances: The Gospels record multiple appearances to individuals and groups, including Mary Magdalene, other women, the disciples in locked rooms, and on the road to Emmaus, designed to prove he was alive.
• The Great Commission: The Gospel narratives culminate in Jesus appearing to his disciples to authorize their mission, cementing the resurrection as the foundation of the Christian faith.

Thematic Differences in the Narratives

While the message is consistent, the authors emphasize different aspects:

• Matthew (28): Highlights the earthquake, the guarding of the tomb, and Jesus' appearance to the women.
• Mark (16): Originally ends abruptly with the empty tomb and fearful women, though the longer ending (16:9-20) adds later,, traditional post-resurrection appearances.
• Luke (24): Focuses on the road to Emmaus appearance and the physical, touchable nature of Jesus, emphasizing the fulfillment of Scripture.
• John (20-21): Provides detailed accounts of Mary Magdalene at the tomb and the doubting Thomas scene, placing strong emphasis on the personal, intimate nature of the interactions.

The consistent, albeit varied, reporting of these events suggests a deliberate effort by the gospel writers to affirm that the resurrection was not a myth or legend, but a concrete event.