The atheist gods of 'Lack', the only true religion?

[Meriweather]

You are cultists.

Often what people see in others is a reflection of self. Perhaps consider that the virulent anti-Trump camp may best fit the definition of "cult."

 

[IsaacNewton]

You are cultists.

Often what people see in others is a reflection of self. Perhaps consider that the virulent anti-Trump camp may best fit the definition of "cult."

You are in a cult, Trump is like Jim Jones to you.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Imagine that without your knowledge, someone has taped everything you have ever said in your life. Would you be proud of every word you ever uttered? If so, you are fortunate indeed. Very few of us can say the same.

Those are some spectacular mental gymnastics to create a false moral equivalence.

Right, we are all Donald Trump. Give me a break.

 

[KokomoJojo]

You are cultists.

Often what people see in others is a reflection of self. Perhaps consider that the virulent anti-Trump camp may best fit the definition of "cult."

You are in a cult, Trump is like Jim Jones to you.

View attachment 202316

You need to get a clue.



Clinton body count

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Clinton body count

*Cuckoo*

 

[KokomoJojo]

Do you not know what atheism is?

Sure its the belief there are no deities, but that does not disassociate atheist beliefs from being a religion. Atheists are said to worship themselves as the highest (whatever)...

What is Secular Humanism?

Accurate definitions are difficult to come by. When one hears the word “humanism,” several different ideas may come to mind. For example, Mr. Webster would define humanism something like this:

“any system or mode of thought or action in which human interests, values, or dignity predominate.”[1]

Others may think of a liberal arts education. Both of these are well and good, but what we are seeking is a definition of the worldview known as Secular Humanism.

First, Secular Humanism is a worldview. That is, it is a set of beliefs through which one interprets all of reality—something like a pair of glasses. Second, Secular Humanism is a religious worldview.[2] Do not let the word “secular” mislead you. The Humanists themselves would agree that they adhere to a religious worldview. According to the Humanist Manifestos I & II: Humanism is “a philosophical, religious, and moral point of view.”[3]

Not all humanists, though, want to be identified as “religious,” because they understand that religion is (supposedly) not allowed in American public education. To identify Secular Humanism as a religion would eliminate the Humanists’ main vehicle for the propagation of their faith. And it is a faith, by their own admission. The Humanist Manifestos declare:

“These affirmations [in the Manifestos] are not a final credo or dogma but an expression of a living and growing faith.”[4]

What are the basic beliefs of Secular Humanism? What do Secular Humanists believe?

Theologically, Secular Humanists are atheists

Theologically, Secular Humanists are atheists. Humanist Paul Kurtz, publisher of Prometheus Books and editor of Free Inquiry magazine, says that,

“Humanism cannot in any fair sense of the word apply to one who still believes in God as the source and creator of the universe.”[5]

Corliss Lamont agrees, saying,

“Humanism contends that instead of the gods creating the cosmos, the cosmos, in the individualized form of human beings giving rein to their imagination, created the gods.”[6]

Philosophically, Secular Humanists are naturalists. That is, they believe that nature is all that exists—the material world is all that exists. There is no God, no spiritual dimension, no afterlife. Carl Sagan said it best in the introduction to his Cosmos series: “The universe is all that is or ever was or ever will be.”[7] Roy Wood Sellars concurs.

“Humanism is naturalistic,” he says, “and rejects the supernaturalistic stance with its postulated Creator-God and cosmic Ruler.”[8]

Secular Humanist beliefs in the area of biology are closely tied to both their atheistic theology and their naturalist philosophy. If there is no supernatural, then life, including human life, must be the result of a purely natural phenomenon. Hence, Secular Humanists must believe in evolution. Julian Huxley, for example, insists that “man … his body, his mind and his soul were not supernaturally created but are all products of evolution.”[9] Sagan, Lamont, Sellars, Kurtz—all Secular Humanists are in agreement on this.

Atheism leads most Secular Humanists to adopt ethical relativism—the belief that no absolute moral code exists, and therefore man must adjust his ethical standards in each situation according to his own judgment.[10] If God does not exist, then He cannot establish an absolute moral code. Humanist Max Hocutt says that human beings “may, and do, make up their own rules… Morality is not discovered; it is made.”[11]
https://christiananswers.net/q-sum/sum-r002.html

I think the Christians nailed it?

Why would you look to Christians to define it?

Nope not looking to Christians at all, they happen to have a comprehensive take on the matter that is very well written and covers all reasonable bases.

 

[hobelim]

You are cultists.

Often what people see in others is a reflection of self. Perhaps consider that the virulent anti-Trump camp may best fit the definition of "cult."

Anyone who with honesty, self respect, compassion for others, and all those with even a modicum of morals and ethics cannot be a supporter of someone who is the antithesis of all those things without selling their soul ..

Thats not an anti-trump cult, thats the rest of the population being pro-truth..

 

[Disir]

Do you not know what atheism is?

Sure its the belief there are no deities, but that does not disassociate atheist beliefs from being a religion. Atheists are said to worship themselves as the highest (whatever)...

What is Secular Humanism?

Accurate definitions are difficult to come by. When one hears the word “humanism,” several different ideas may come to mind. For example, Mr. Webster would define humanism something like this:

“any system or mode of thought or action in which human interests, values, or dignity predominate.”[1]

Others may think of a liberal arts education. Both of these are well and good, but what we are seeking is a definition of the worldview known as Secular Humanism.

First, Secular Humanism is a worldview. That is, it is a set of beliefs through which one interprets all of reality—something like a pair of glasses. Second, Secular Humanism is a religious worldview.[2] Do not let the word “secular” mislead you. The Humanists themselves would agree that they adhere to a religious worldview. According to the Humanist Manifestos I & II: Humanism is “a philosophical, religious, and moral point of view.”[3]

Not all humanists, though, want to be identified as “religious,” because they understand that religion is (supposedly) not allowed in American public education. To identify Secular Humanism as a religion would eliminate the Humanists’ main vehicle for the propagation of their faith. And it is a faith, by their own admission. The Humanist Manifestos declare:

“These affirmations [in the Manifestos] are not a final credo or dogma but an expression of a living and growing faith.”[4]

What are the basic beliefs of Secular Humanism? What do Secular Humanists believe?

Theologically, Secular Humanists are atheists

Theologically, Secular Humanists are atheists. Humanist Paul Kurtz, publisher of Prometheus Books and editor of Free Inquiry magazine, says that,

“Humanism cannot in any fair sense of the word apply to one who still believes in God as the source and creator of the universe.”[5]

Corliss Lamont agrees, saying,

“Humanism contends that instead of the gods creating the cosmos, the cosmos, in the individualized form of human beings giving rein to their imagination, created the gods.”[6]

Philosophically, Secular Humanists are naturalists. That is, they believe that nature is all that exists—the material world is all that exists. There is no God, no spiritual dimension, no afterlife. Carl Sagan said it best in the introduction to his Cosmos series: “The universe is all that is or ever was or ever will be.”[7] Roy Wood Sellars concurs.

“Humanism is naturalistic,” he says, “and rejects the supernaturalistic stance with its postulated Creator-God and cosmic Ruler.”[8]

Secular Humanist beliefs in the area of biology are closely tied to both their atheistic theology and their naturalist philosophy. If there is no supernatural, then life, including human life, must be the result of a purely natural phenomenon. Hence, Secular Humanists must believe in evolution. Julian Huxley, for example, insists that “man … his body, his mind and his soul were not supernaturally created but are all products of evolution.”[9] Sagan, Lamont, Sellars, Kurtz—all Secular Humanists are in agreement on this.

Atheism leads most Secular Humanists to adopt ethical relativism—the belief that no absolute moral code exists, and therefore man must adjust his ethical standards in each situation according to his own judgment.[10] If God does not exist, then He cannot establish an absolute moral code. Humanist Max Hocutt says that human beings “may, and do, make up their own rules… Morality is not discovered; it is made.”[11]
https://christiananswers.net/q-sum/sum-r002.html

I think the Christians nailed it?

Why would you look to Christians to define it?

Nope not looking to Christians at all, they happen to have a comprehensive take on the matter that is very well written and covers all reasonable bases.

Definition of Humanism - American Humanist Association

 

[KokomoJojo]

Do you not know what atheism is?

Sure its the belief there are no deities, but that does not disassociate atheist beliefs from being a religion. Atheists are said to worship themselves as the highest (whatever)...

What is Secular Humanism?

Accurate definitions are difficult to come by. When one hears the word “humanism,” several different ideas may come to mind. For example, Mr. Webster would define humanism something like this:

“any system or mode of thought or action in which human interests, values, or dignity predominate.”[1]

Others may think of a liberal arts education. Both of these are well and good, but what we are seeking is a definition of the worldview known as Secular Humanism.

First, Secular Humanism is a worldview. That is, it is a set of beliefs through which one interprets all of reality—something like a pair of glasses. Second, Secular Humanism is a religious worldview.[2] Do not let the word “secular” mislead you. The Humanists themselves would agree that they adhere to a religious worldview. According to the Humanist Manifestos I & II: Humanism is “a philosophical, religious, and moral point of view.”[3]

Not all humanists, though, want to be identified as “religious,” because they understand that religion is (supposedly) not allowed in American public education. To identify Secular Humanism as a religion would eliminate the Humanists’ main vehicle for the propagation of their faith. And it is a faith, by their own admission. The Humanist Manifestos declare:

“These affirmations [in the Manifestos] are not a final credo or dogma but an expression of a living and growing faith.”[4]

What are the basic beliefs of Secular Humanism? What do Secular Humanists believe?

Theologically, Secular Humanists are atheists

Theologically, Secular Humanists are atheists. Humanist Paul Kurtz, publisher of Prometheus Books and editor of Free Inquiry magazine, says that,

“Humanism cannot in any fair sense of the word apply to one who still believes in God as the source and creator of the universe.”[5]

Corliss Lamont agrees, saying,

“Humanism contends that instead of the gods creating the cosmos, the cosmos, in the individualized form of human beings giving rein to their imagination, created the gods.”[6]

Philosophically, Secular Humanists are naturalists. That is, they believe that nature is all that exists—the material world is all that exists. There is no God, no spiritual dimension, no afterlife. Carl Sagan said it best in the introduction to his Cosmos series: “The universe is all that is or ever was or ever will be.”[7] Roy Wood Sellars concurs.

“Humanism is naturalistic,” he says, “and rejects the supernaturalistic stance with its postulated Creator-God and cosmic Ruler.”[8]

Secular Humanist beliefs in the area of biology are closely tied to both their atheistic theology and their naturalist philosophy. If there is no supernatural, then life, including human life, must be the result of a purely natural phenomenon. Hence, Secular Humanists must believe in evolution. Julian Huxley, for example, insists that “man … his body, his mind and his soul were not supernaturally created but are all products of evolution.”[9] Sagan, Lamont, Sellars, Kurtz—all Secular Humanists are in agreement on this.

Atheism leads most Secular Humanists to adopt ethical relativism—the belief that no absolute moral code exists, and therefore man must adjust his ethical standards in each situation according to his own judgment.[10] If God does not exist, then He cannot establish an absolute moral code. Humanist Max Hocutt says that human beings “may, and do, make up their own rules… Morality is not discovered; it is made.”[11]
https://christiananswers.net/q-sum/sum-r002.html

I think the Christians nailed it?

Why would you look to Christians to define it?

Nope not looking to Christians at all, they happen to have a comprehensive take on the matter that is very well written and covers all reasonable bases.

Definition of Humanism - American Humanist Association

Humanism is a progressive lifestance that, without theism or other supernatural beliefs,

Humanism is a rational philosophy informed by science,

Humanism is a lifestance

Humanism is an approach to life

Humanism is: A joyous alternative to religions that believe in a supernatural god

Humanism is the light of my life and the fire in my soul.

Humanism is a philosophy, world view, or lifestance based on naturalism

Humanism is a philosophy of life that considers the welfare of humankind – rather than the welfare of a supposed God or gods

Humanism maintains there is no evidence a supernatural power ever needed

Note: These definitions of Humanism are provided for the education and interest of readers. The AHA does not necessarily agree with or advocate any one except the definition (printed first above) officially approved by the AHA Board of Directors.


Thanks but what is that supposed to mean to me? All you are telling me is that humanism is a religion without a 'supernatural' G/god, atheists and does not mean its not a religion.

 

[Disir]

Do you not know what atheism is?

Sure its the belief there are no deities, but that does not disassociate atheist beliefs from being a religion. Atheists are said to worship themselves as the highest (whatever)...

What is Secular Humanism?

Accurate definitions are difficult to come by. When one hears the word “humanism,” several different ideas may come to mind. For example, Mr. Webster would define humanism something like this:

“any system or mode of thought or action in which human interests, values, or dignity predominate.”[1]

Others may think of a liberal arts education. Both of these are well and good, but what we are seeking is a definition of the worldview known as Secular Humanism.

First, Secular Humanism is a worldview. That is, it is a set of beliefs through which one interprets all of reality—something like a pair of glasses. Second, Secular Humanism is a religious worldview.[2] Do not let the word “secular” mislead you. The Humanists themselves would agree that they adhere to a religious worldview. According to the Humanist Manifestos I & II: Humanism is “a philosophical, religious, and moral point of view.”[3]

Not all humanists, though, want to be identified as “religious,” because they understand that religion is (supposedly) not allowed in American public education. To identify Secular Humanism as a religion would eliminate the Humanists’ main vehicle for the propagation of their faith. And it is a faith, by their own admission. The Humanist Manifestos declare:

“These affirmations [in the Manifestos] are not a final credo or dogma but an expression of a living and growing faith.”[4]

What are the basic beliefs of Secular Humanism? What do Secular Humanists believe?

Theologically, Secular Humanists are atheists

Theologically, Secular Humanists are atheists. Humanist Paul Kurtz, publisher of Prometheus Books and editor of Free Inquiry magazine, says that,

“Humanism cannot in any fair sense of the word apply to one who still believes in God as the source and creator of the universe.”[5]

Corliss Lamont agrees, saying,

“Humanism contends that instead of the gods creating the cosmos, the cosmos, in the individualized form of human beings giving rein to their imagination, created the gods.”[6]

Philosophically, Secular Humanists are naturalists. That is, they believe that nature is all that exists—the material world is all that exists. There is no God, no spiritual dimension, no afterlife. Carl Sagan said it best in the introduction to his Cosmos series: “The universe is all that is or ever was or ever will be.”[7] Roy Wood Sellars concurs.

“Humanism is naturalistic,” he says, “and rejects the supernaturalistic stance with its postulated Creator-God and cosmic Ruler.”[8]

Secular Humanist beliefs in the area of biology are closely tied to both their atheistic theology and their naturalist philosophy. If there is no supernatural, then life, including human life, must be the result of a purely natural phenomenon. Hence, Secular Humanists must believe in evolution. Julian Huxley, for example, insists that “man … his body, his mind and his soul were not supernaturally created but are all products of evolution.”[9] Sagan, Lamont, Sellars, Kurtz—all Secular Humanists are in agreement on this.

Atheism leads most Secular Humanists to adopt ethical relativism—the belief that no absolute moral code exists, and therefore man must adjust his ethical standards in each situation according to his own judgment.[10] If God does not exist, then He cannot establish an absolute moral code. Humanist Max Hocutt says that human beings “may, and do, make up their own rules… Morality is not discovered; it is made.”[11]
https://christiananswers.net/q-sum/sum-r002.html

I think the Christians nailed it?

Why would you look to Christians to define it?

Nope not looking to Christians at all, they happen to have a comprehensive take on the matter that is very well written and covers all reasonable bases.

Definition of Humanism - American Humanist Association

Humanism is a progressive lifestance that, without theism or other supernatural beliefs,

Humanism is a rational philosophy informed by science,

Humanism is a lifestance

Humanism is an approach to life

Humanism is: A joyous alternative to religions that believe in a supernatural god

Humanism is the light of my life and the fire in my soul.

Humanism is a philosophy, world view, or lifestance based on naturalism

Humanism is a philosophy of life that considers the welfare of humankind – rather than the welfare of a supposed God or gods

Humanism maintains there is no evidence a supernatural power ever needed

Note: These definitions of Humanism are provided for the education and interest of readers. The AHA does not necessarily agree with or advocate any one except the definition (printed first above) officially approved by the AHA Board of Directors.


Thanks but what is that supposed to mean to me? All you are telling me is that humanism is a religion without a 'supernatural' G/god, atheists and does not mean its not a religion.

First of all, you can be an atheist and not be a humanist.You can be agnostic and not be a humanist. Humanism is a philosophy (for those that insist on mental masturbation).

I think it is very difficult, if not impossible, for theists to imagine an atheists world view. Can't cross that line. The thought process of having to hold something above oneself is tied to asceticism and this becomes very clear when you and Penelope try to insert worshiping into an atheists world view.

 

[KokomoJojo]

Sure its the belief there are no deities, but that does not disassociate atheist beliefs from being a religion. Atheists are said to worship themselves as the highest (whatever)...

What is Secular Humanism?

Accurate definitions are difficult to come by. When one hears the word “humanism,” several different ideas may come to mind. For example, Mr. Webster would define humanism something like this:

“any system or mode of thought or action in which human interests, values, or dignity predominate.”[1]

Others may think of a liberal arts education. Both of these are well and good, but what we are seeking is a definition of the worldview known as Secular Humanism.

First, Secular Humanism is a worldview. That is, it is a set of beliefs through which one interprets all of reality—something like a pair of glasses. Second, Secular Humanism is a religious worldview.[2] Do not let the word “secular” mislead you. The Humanists themselves would agree that they adhere to a religious worldview. According to the Humanist Manifestos I & II: Humanism is “a philosophical, religious, and moral point of view.”[3]

Not all humanists, though, want to be identified as “religious,” because they understand that religion is (supposedly) not allowed in American public education. To identify Secular Humanism as a religion would eliminate the Humanists’ main vehicle for the propagation of their faith. And it is a faith, by their own admission. The Humanist Manifestos declare:

“These affirmations [in the Manifestos] are not a final credo or dogma but an expression of a living and growing faith.”[4]

What are the basic beliefs of Secular Humanism? What do Secular Humanists believe?

Theologically, Secular Humanists are atheists

Theologically, Secular Humanists are atheists. Humanist Paul Kurtz, publisher of Prometheus Books and editor of Free Inquiry magazine, says that,

“Humanism cannot in any fair sense of the word apply to one who still believes in God as the source and creator of the universe.”[5]

Corliss Lamont agrees, saying,

“Humanism contends that instead of the gods creating the cosmos, the cosmos, in the individualized form of human beings giving rein to their imagination, created the gods.”[6]

Philosophically, Secular Humanists are naturalists. That is, they believe that nature is all that exists—the material world is all that exists. There is no God, no spiritual dimension, no afterlife. Carl Sagan said it best in the introduction to his Cosmos series: “The universe is all that is or ever was or ever will be.”[7] Roy Wood Sellars concurs.

“Humanism is naturalistic,” he says, “and rejects the supernaturalistic stance with its postulated Creator-God and cosmic Ruler.”[8]

Secular Humanist beliefs in the area of biology are closely tied to both their atheistic theology and their naturalist philosophy. If there is no supernatural, then life, including human life, must be the result of a purely natural phenomenon. Hence, Secular Humanists must believe in evolution. Julian Huxley, for example, insists that “man … his body, his mind and his soul were not supernaturally created but are all products of evolution.”[9] Sagan, Lamont, Sellars, Kurtz—all Secular Humanists are in agreement on this.

Atheism leads most Secular Humanists to adopt ethical relativism—the belief that no absolute moral code exists, and therefore man must adjust his ethical standards in each situation according to his own judgment.[10] If God does not exist, then He cannot establish an absolute moral code. Humanist Max Hocutt says that human beings “may, and do, make up their own rules… Morality is not discovered; it is made.”[11]
https://christiananswers.net/q-sum/sum-r002.html

I think the Christians nailed it?

Why would you look to Christians to define it?

Nope not looking to Christians at all, they happen to have a comprehensive take on the matter that is very well written and covers all reasonable bases.

Definition of Humanism - American Humanist Association

Humanism is a progressive lifestance that, without theism or other supernatural beliefs,

Humanism is a rational philosophy informed by science,

Humanism is a lifestance

Humanism is an approach to life

Humanism is: A joyous alternative to religions that believe in a supernatural god

Humanism is the light of my life and the fire in my soul.

Humanism is a philosophy, world view, or lifestance based on naturalism

Humanism is a philosophy of life that considers the welfare of humankind – rather than the welfare of a supposed God or gods

Humanism maintains there is no evidence a supernatural power ever needed

Note: These definitions of Humanism are provided for the education and interest of readers. The AHA does not necessarily agree with or advocate any one except the definition (printed first above) officially approved by the AHA Board of Directors.


Thanks but what is that supposed to mean to me? All you are telling me is that humanism is a religion without a 'supernatural' G/god, atheists and does not mean its not a religion.

First of all, you can be an atheist and not be a humanist.You can be agnostic and not be a humanist. Humanism is a philosophy (for those that insist on mental masturbation).

I think it is very difficult, if not impossible, for theists to imagine an atheists world view. Can't cross that line. The thought process of having to hold something above oneself is tied to asceticism and this becomes very clear when you and Penelope try to insert worshiping into an atheists world view.

Hmm.... that does not extinguish they are none the less a religion.


The God Atheists Worship

By Rob Robinson on March 19, 2018 • ( 0 )

No, the title of this article is not a contradiction of terms. Atheists might define themselves as those who do not believe that a God or gods exist, but the fact is, they do worship a god whom they have created.




Human beings must devote themselves to something of worth in order to find meaning and purpose in life. The origin of the word “worship,” is from the ancient English word “woerthship” or worth-ship: to place worth or value upon something or someone. People worship God because they believe there is worth in Him; and He is worthy of their time, energy, resources, and attention.

This same principle is also applicable to those who do not believe in God. They also devote themselves to the things they love—such as work, pleasure, money, possessions, a hobby, sports, art, music, or another person. There are many things people devote themselves to in a personal act of worship.

In this regard, even the non-spiritually religious become materially religious in the pursuit of their passions or pleasures.

The God Atheists Worship

I dont know about the rest of that article but this part is bang on AFAIAC. You can worship anything, even yourself.

 

[Disir]

Why would you look to Christians to define it?

Nope not looking to Christians at all, they happen to have a comprehensive take on the matter that is very well written and covers all reasonable bases.

Definition of Humanism - American Humanist Association

Humanism is a progressive lifestance that, without theism or other supernatural beliefs,

Humanism is a rational philosophy informed by science,

Humanism is a lifestance

Humanism is an approach to life

Humanism is: A joyous alternative to religions that believe in a supernatural god

Humanism is the light of my life and the fire in my soul.

Humanism is a philosophy, world view, or lifestance based on naturalism

Humanism is a philosophy of life that considers the welfare of humankind – rather than the welfare of a supposed God or gods

Humanism maintains there is no evidence a supernatural power ever needed

Note: These definitions of Humanism are provided for the education and interest of readers. The AHA does not necessarily agree with or advocate any one except the definition (printed first above) officially approved by the AHA Board of Directors.


Thanks but what is that supposed to mean to me? All you are telling me is that humanism is a religion without a 'supernatural' G/god, atheists and does not mean its not a religion.

First of all, you can be an atheist and not be a humanist.You can be agnostic and not be a humanist. Humanism is a philosophy (for those that insist on mental masturbation).

I think it is very difficult, if not impossible, for theists to imagine an atheists world view. Can't cross that line. The thought process of having to hold something above oneself is tied to asceticism and this becomes very clear when you and Penelope try to insert worshiping into an atheists world view.

Hmm.... that does not extinguish they are none the less a religion.


The God Atheists Worship

By Rob Robinson on March 19, 2018 • ( 0 )


No, the title of this article is not a contradiction of terms. Atheists might define themselves as those who do not believe that a God or gods exist, but the fact is, they do worship a god whom they have created.




Human beings must devote themselves to something of worth in order to find meaning and purpose in life. The origin of the word “worship,” is from the ancient English word “woerthship” or worth-ship: to place worth or value upon something or someone. People worship God because they believe there is worth in Him; and He is worthy of their time, energy, resources, and attention.


This same principle is also applicable to those who do not believe in God. They also devote themselves to the things they love—such as work, pleasure, money, possessions, a hobby, sports, art, music, or another person. There are many things people devote themselves to in a personal act of worship.


In this regard, even the non-spiritually religious become materially religious in the pursuit of their passions or pleasures.

The God Atheists Worship

I dont know about the rest of that article but this part is bang on AFAIAC.

Written by a Christian. You just proved my point.

 

[KokomoJojo]

Nope not looking to Christians at all, they happen to have a comprehensive take on the matter that is very well written and covers all reasonable bases.

Definition of Humanism - American Humanist Association

Humanism is a progressive lifestance that, without theism or other supernatural beliefs,

Humanism is a rational philosophy informed by science,

Humanism is a lifestance

Humanism is an approach to life

Humanism is: A joyous alternative to religions that believe in a supernatural god

Humanism is the light of my life and the fire in my soul.

Humanism is a philosophy, world view, or lifestance based on naturalism

Humanism is a philosophy of life that considers the welfare of humankind – rather than the welfare of a supposed God or gods

Humanism maintains there is no evidence a supernatural power ever needed

Note: These definitions of Humanism are provided for the education and interest of readers. The AHA does not necessarily agree with or advocate any one except the definition (printed first above) officially approved by the AHA Board of Directors.


Thanks but what is that supposed to mean to me? All you are telling me is that humanism is a religion without a 'supernatural' G/god, atheists and does not mean its not a religion.

First of all, you can be an atheist and not be a humanist.You can be agnostic and not be a humanist. Humanism is a philosophy (for those that insist on mental masturbation).

I think it is very difficult, if not impossible, for theists to imagine an atheists world view. Can't cross that line. The thought process of having to hold something above oneself is tied to asceticism and this becomes very clear when you and Penelope try to insert worshiping into an atheists world view.

Hmm.... that does not extinguish they are none the less a religion.


The God Atheists Worship

By Rob Robinson on March 19, 2018 • ( 0 )


No, the title of this article is not a contradiction of terms. Atheists might define themselves as those who do not believe that a God or gods exist, but the fact is, they do worship a god whom they have created.




Human beings must devote themselves to something of worth in order to find meaning and purpose in life. The origin of the word “worship,” is from the ancient English word “woerthship” or worth-ship: to place worth or value upon something or someone. People worship God because they believe there is worth in Him; and He is worthy of their time, energy, resources, and attention.


This same principle is also applicable to those who do not believe in God. They also devote themselves to the things they love—such as work, pleasure, money, possessions, a hobby, sports, art, music, or another person. There are many things people devote themselves to in a personal act of worship.


In this regard, even the non-spiritually religious become materially religious in the pursuit of their passions or pleasures.

The God Atheists Worship

I dont know about the rest of that article but this part is bang on AFAIAC.

Written by a Christian. You just proved my point.

So all you are concerned with is the political title of 'who' wrote it rather than understanding the contents.

The average self proclaimed atheist on the street is clueless about anything to do with religion, do you expect they are capable of defining it for you?

You will need to argue the points the article makes to stay in the game.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Why would you look to Christians to define it?

Nope not looking to Christians at all, they happen to have a comprehensive take on the matter that is very well written and covers all reasonable bases.

Definition of Humanism - American Humanist Association

Humanism is a progressive lifestance that, without theism or other supernatural beliefs,

Humanism is a rational philosophy informed by science,

Humanism is a lifestance

Humanism is an approach to life

Humanism is: A joyous alternative to religions that believe in a supernatural god

Humanism is the light of my life and the fire in my soul.

Humanism is a philosophy, world view, or lifestance based on naturalism

Humanism is a philosophy of life that considers the welfare of humankind – rather than the welfare of a supposed God or gods

Humanism maintains there is no evidence a supernatural power ever needed

Note: These definitions of Humanism are provided for the education and interest of readers. The AHA does not necessarily agree with or advocate any one except the definition (printed first above) officially approved by the AHA Board of Directors.


Thanks but what is that supposed to mean to me? All you are telling me is that humanism is a religion without a 'supernatural' G/god, atheists and does not mean its not a religion.

First of all, you can be an atheist and not be a humanist.You can be agnostic and not be a humanist. Humanism is a philosophy (for those that insist on mental masturbation).

I think it is very difficult, if not impossible, for theists to imagine an atheists world view. Can't cross that line. The thought process of having to hold something above oneself is tied to asceticism and this becomes very clear when you and Penelope try to insert worshiping into an atheists world view.

Hmm.... that does not extinguish they are none the less a religion.


The God Atheists Worship

By Rob Robinson on March 19, 2018 • ( 0 )

No, the title of this article is not a contradiction of terms. Atheists might define themselves as those who do not believe that a God or gods exist, but the fact is, they do worship a god whom they have created.




Human beings must devote themselves to something of worth in order to find meaning and purpose in life. The origin of the word “worship,” is from the ancient English word “woerthship” or worth-ship: to place worth or value upon something or someone. People worship God because they believe there is worth in Him; and He is worthy of their time, energy, resources, and attention.

This same principle is also applicable to those who do not believe in God. They also devote themselves to the things they love—such as work, pleasure, money, possessions, a hobby, sports, art, music, or another person. There are many things people devote themselves to in a personal act of worship.

In this regard, even the non-spiritually religious become materially religious in the pursuit of their passions or pleasures.

The God Atheists Worship

I dont know about the rest of that article but this part is bang on AFAIAC. You can worship anything, even yourself.

That article is nonsense. Atheism is not a religion. Out of convenience, the author tries to reduce religion to a hobby... And the author is still wrong regardless. Atheists do not concern themselves with this overarching narrative. The author projects his own religious fetishism onto others, likely out of sheer sheer inability to grasp otherwise.

 

[KokomoJojo]

That article is nonsense [because __________ and _________ and __________].

Oh WOW great refutation, all that blankation, total destruction, who can argue against that!

Atheism is not a religion [because __________ and _________ and __________].

Oh WOW great refutation, all that blankation, total destruction, who can argue against that!

Out of convenience, the author tries to reduce religion to a hobby [because __________ and _________ and __________]...

Oh WOW great refutation, all that blankation, total destruction, who can argue against that!

And the author is still wrong regardless [because __________ and _________ and __________].

Oh WOW great refutation, all that blankation, total destruction, who can argue against that!

Atheists do not concern themselves with this overarching narrative [because __________ and _________ and __________].

Oh WOW great refutation, all that blankation, total destruction, who can argue against that!

The author projects his own religious fetishism onto others, likely out of sheer sheer inability to grasp otherwise [because __________ and _________ and __________].

Oh WOW great refutation, all that blankation, total destruction, who can argue against that!

Emphasis [because __________ and _________ and __________] added to make the point!

Thats some great masturdebation you posted there man, want to try again?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

That article is nonsense [because __________ and _________ and __________].

Oh WOW great refutation, all that blankation, total destruction, who can argue against that!

Atheism is not a religion [because __________ and _________ and __________].

Oh WOW great refutation, all that blankation, total destruction, who can argue against that!

Out of convenience, the author tries to reduce religion to a hobby [because __________ and _________ and __________]...

Oh WOW great refutation, all that blankation, total destruction, who can argue against that!

And the author is still wrong regardless [because __________ and _________ and __________].

Oh WOW great refutation, all that blankation, total destruction, who can argue against that!

Atheists do not concern themselves with this overarching narrative [because __________ and _________ and __________].

Oh WOW great refutation, all that blankation, total destruction, who can argue against that!

The author projects his own religious fetishism onto others, likely out of sheer sheer inability to grasp otherwise [because __________ and _________ and __________].

Oh WOW great refutation, all that blankation, total destruction, who can argue against that!

Emphasis [because __________ and _________ and __________] added to make the point!

Thats some great masturdebation you posted there man, want to try again?

You are embarrassing yourself.

 

[KokomoJojo]

That article is nonsense [because __________ and _________ and __________].

Oh WOW great refutation, all that blankation, total destruction, who can argue against that!

Atheism is not a religion [because __________ and _________ and __________].

Oh WOW great refutation, all that blankation, total destruction, who can argue against that!

Out of convenience, the author tries to reduce religion to a hobby [because __________ and _________ and __________]...

Oh WOW great refutation, all that blankation, total destruction, who can argue against that!

And the author is still wrong regardless [because __________ and _________ and __________].

Oh WOW great refutation, all that blankation, total destruction, who can argue against that!

Atheists do not concern themselves with this overarching narrative [because __________ and _________ and __________].

Oh WOW great refutation, all that blankation, total destruction, who can argue against that!

The author projects his own religious fetishism onto others, likely out of sheer sheer inability to grasp otherwise [because __________ and _________ and __________].

Oh WOW great refutation, all that blankation, total destruction, who can argue against that!

Emphasis [because __________ and _________ and __________] added to make the point!

Thats some great masturdebation you posted there man, want to try again?

You are embarrassing yourself.

Its doubtful you would be able to find anyone with a low enough IQ to agree with that after you posted all that lack.

 

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Sure its the belief there are no deities, but that does not disassociate atheist beliefs from being a religion. Atheists are said to worship themselves as the highest (whatever)...

What is Secular Humanism?

Accurate definitions are difficult to come by. When one hears the word “humanism,” several different ideas may come to mind. For example, Mr. Webster would define humanism something like this:

“any system or mode of thought or action in which human interests, values, or dignity predominate.”[1]

Others may think of a liberal arts education. Both of these are well and good, but what we are seeking is a definition of the worldview known as Secular Humanism.

First, Secular Humanism is a worldview. That is, it is a set of beliefs through which one interprets all of reality—something like a pair of glasses. Second, Secular Humanism is a religious worldview.[2] Do not let the word “secular” mislead you. The Humanists themselves would agree that they adhere to a religious worldview. According to the Humanist Manifestos I & II: Humanism is “a philosophical, religious, and moral point of view.”[3]

Not all humanists, though, want to be identified as “religious,” because they understand that religion is (supposedly) not allowed in American public education. To identify Secular Humanism as a religion would eliminate the Humanists’ main vehicle for the propagation of their faith. And it is a faith, by their own admission. The Humanist Manifestos declare:

“These affirmations [in the Manifestos] are not a final credo or dogma but an expression of a living and growing faith.”[4]

What are the basic beliefs of Secular Humanism? What do Secular Humanists believe?

Theologically, Secular Humanists are atheists

Theologically, Secular Humanists are atheists. Humanist Paul Kurtz, publisher of Prometheus Books and editor of Free Inquiry magazine, says that,

“Humanism cannot in any fair sense of the word apply to one who still believes in God as the source and creator of the universe.”[5]

Corliss Lamont agrees, saying,

“Humanism contends that instead of the gods creating the cosmos, the cosmos, in the individualized form of human beings giving rein to their imagination, created the gods.”[6]

Philosophically, Secular Humanists are naturalists. That is, they believe that nature is all that exists—the material world is all that exists. There is no God, no spiritual dimension, no afterlife. Carl Sagan said it best in the introduction to his Cosmos series: “The universe is all that is or ever was or ever will be.”[7] Roy Wood Sellars concurs.

“Humanism is naturalistic,” he says, “and rejects the supernaturalistic stance with its postulated Creator-God and cosmic Ruler.”[8]

Secular Humanist beliefs in the area of biology are closely tied to both their atheistic theology and their naturalist philosophy. If there is no supernatural, then life, including human life, must be the result of a purely natural phenomenon. Hence, Secular Humanists must believe in evolution. Julian Huxley, for example, insists that “man … his body, his mind and his soul were not supernaturally created but are all products of evolution.”[9] Sagan, Lamont, Sellars, Kurtz—all Secular Humanists are in agreement on this.

Atheism leads most Secular Humanists to adopt ethical relativism—the belief that no absolute moral code exists, and therefore man must adjust his ethical standards in each situation according to his own judgment.[10] If God does not exist, then He cannot establish an absolute moral code. Humanist Max Hocutt says that human beings “may, and do, make up their own rules… Morality is not discovered; it is made.”[11]
https://christiananswers.net/q-sum/sum-r002.html

I think the Christians nailed it?

Why would you look to Christians to define it?

Nope not looking to Christians at all, they happen to have a comprehensive take on the matter that is very well written and covers all reasonable bases.

Definition of Humanism - American Humanist Association

Humanism is a progressive lifestance that, without theism or other supernatural beliefs,

Humanism is a rational philosophy informed by science,

Humanism is a lifestance

Humanism is an approach to life

Humanism is: A joyous alternative to religions that believe in a supernatural god

Humanism is the light of my life and the fire in my soul.

Humanism is a philosophy, world view, or lifestance based on naturalism

Humanism is a philosophy of life that considers the welfare of humankind – rather than the welfare of a supposed God or gods

Humanism maintains there is no evidence a supernatural power ever needed

Note: These definitions of Humanism are provided for the education and interest of readers. The AHA does not necessarily agree with or advocate any one except the definition (printed first above) officially approved by the AHA Board of Directors.


Thanks but what is that supposed to mean to me? All you are telling me is that humanism is a religion without a 'supernatural' G/god, atheists and does not mean its not a religion.

First of all, you can be an atheist and not be a humanist.You can be agnostic and not be a humanist. Humanism is a philosophy (for those that insist on mental masturbation).

I think it is very difficult, if not impossible, for theists to imagine an atheists world view. Can't cross that line. The thought process of having to hold something above oneself is tied to asceticism and this becomes very clear when you and Penelope try to insert worshiping into an atheists world view.

An atheist's world view is materialism. Why would you believe that would be so hard to understand. It is really quite simple.

 

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David Foster Wallace said, "In the day-to-day trenches of adult life, there is actually no such thing as atheism. There is no such thing as not worshipping. Everybody worships. The only choice we get is what to worship. And an outstanding reason for choosing some sort of God or spiritual-type thing to worship-be it J.C. or Allah, be it Yahweh or the Wiccan mother-goddess or the Four Noble Truths or some infrangible set of ethical principles-is that pretty much anything else you worship will eat you alive. If you worship money and things-if they are where you tap real meaning in life-then you will never have enough. Never feel you have enough. It's the truth. Worship your own body and beauty and sexual allure and you will always feel ugly, and when time and age start showing, you will die a million deaths before they finally plant you. On one level, we all know this stuff already-it's been codified as myths, proverbs, clichés, bromides, epigrams, parables: the skeleton of every great story. The trick is keeping the truth up-front in daily consciousness. Worship power-you will feel weak and afraid, and you will need ever more power over others to keep the fear at bay. Worship your intellect, being seen as smart-you will end up feeling stupid, a fraud, always on the verge of being found out. And so on.

Look, the insidious thing about these forms of worship is not that they're evil or sinful; it is that they are unconscious. They are default-settings. They're the kind of worship you just gradually slip into, day after day, getting more and more selective about what you see and how you measure value without ever being fully aware that that's what you're doing. And the world will not discourage you from operating on your default-settings, because the world of men and money and power hums along quite nicely on the fuel of fear and contempt and frustration and craving and the worship of self. Our own present culture has harnessed these forces in ways that have yielded extraordinary wealth and comfort and personal freedom. The freedom to be lords of our own tiny skull-sized kingdoms, alone at the center of all creation. This kind of freedom has much to recommend it. But of course there are all different kinds of freedom, and the kind that is most precious you will not hear much talked about in the great outside world of winning and achieving and displaying. The really important kind of freedom involves attention, and awareness, and discipline, and effort, and being able truly to care about other people and to sacrifice for them, over and over, in myriad petty little unsexy ways, every day. That is real freedom. The alternative is unconsciousness, the default-setting, the "rat race"-the constant gnawing sense of having had and lost some infinite thing.

I know that this stuff probably doesn't sound fun and breezy or grandly inspirational. What it is, so far as I can see, is the truth with a whole lot of rhetorical bullshit pared away. Obviously, you can think of it whatever you wish. But please don't dismiss it as some finger-wagging Dr. Laura sermon. None of this is about morality, or religion, or dogma, or big fancy questions of life after death. The capital-T Truth is about life before death. It is about making it to thirty, or maybe fifty, without wanting to shoot yourself in the head. It is about simple awareness-awareness of what is so real and essential, so hidden in plain sight all around us, that we have to keep reminding ourselves, over and over: "This is water, this is water.""

 

[Disir]

Definition of Humanism - American Humanist Association

Humanism is a progressive lifestance that, without theism or other supernatural beliefs,

Humanism is a rational philosophy informed by science,

Humanism is a lifestance

Humanism is an approach to life

Humanism is: A joyous alternative to religions that believe in a supernatural god

Humanism is the light of my life and the fire in my soul.

Humanism is a philosophy, world view, or lifestance based on naturalism

Humanism is a philosophy of life that considers the welfare of humankind – rather than the welfare of a supposed God or gods

Humanism maintains there is no evidence a supernatural power ever needed

Note: These definitions of Humanism are provided for the education and interest of readers. The AHA does not necessarily agree with or advocate any one except the definition (printed first above) officially approved by the AHA Board of Directors.


Thanks but what is that supposed to mean to me? All you are telling me is that humanism is a religion without a 'supernatural' G/god, atheists and does not mean its not a religion.

First of all, you can be an atheist and not be a humanist.You can be agnostic and not be a humanist. Humanism is a philosophy (for those that insist on mental masturbation).

I think it is very difficult, if not impossible, for theists to imagine an atheists world view. Can't cross that line. The thought process of having to hold something above oneself is tied to asceticism and this becomes very clear when you and Penelope try to insert worshiping into an atheists world view.

Hmm.... that does not extinguish they are none the less a religion.


The God Atheists Worship

By Rob Robinson on March 19, 2018 • ( 0 )


No, the title of this article is not a contradiction of terms. Atheists might define themselves as those who do not believe that a God or gods exist, but the fact is, they do worship a god whom they have created.




Human beings must devote themselves to something of worth in order to find meaning and purpose in life. The origin of the word “worship,” is from the ancient English word “woerthship” or worth-ship: to place worth or value upon something or someone. People worship God because they believe there is worth in Him; and He is worthy of their time, energy, resources, and attention.


This same principle is also applicable to those who do not believe in God. They also devote themselves to the things they love—such as work, pleasure, money, possessions, a hobby, sports, art, music, or another person. There are many things people devote themselves to in a personal act of worship.


In this regard, even the non-spiritually religious become materially religious in the pursuit of their passions or pleasures.

The God Atheists Worship

I dont know about the rest of that article but this part is bang on AFAIAC.

Written by a Christian. You just proved my point.

So all you are concerned with is the political title of 'who' wrote it rather than understanding the contents.

The average self proclaimed atheist on the street is clueless about anything to do with religion, do you expect they are capable of defining it for you?

You will need to argue the points the article makes to stay in the game.

I already made the points in prior posts. At this point it is redundant.