Thanks Obama - You Vet Hating **********

[eots]

they are not protecting my rights and most of them join for pay,training and benefits and benifits.get over it

You little ******* ingrate. They are protecting your rights, though you clearly don't deserve what your betters are doing for you. Self-absorbed little ******* pussies like you wouldn't last a minute without them.

is that what drill instructor told you....

 

[Vandalshandle]

Because, despite the hyperbole, Afghans and Iraqis are the only ones with designs against us and our way of life??

The ME is the only place on this vast planet where our military is standing watch??You're welcome, shit-stains.

Well, I confess that Germany and Japan have not been uppidy again in the last 68 years, so we should thank our military for not letting that happen....

You have a very narrow world view, don't ya?

There are 4 carriers underway right now (just as one example)
One is in the S. China Sea, but none are near the ME or Germany

I guess that I just assumed that it was taking a lot of military resources to keep the Japanese and the Germans in line, since we have 392 military bases in those 2 countries....

http://www.fpif.org/articles/too_many_overseas_bases

" Among the installations considered critical to our national security are a ski center in the Bavarian Alps, resorts in Seoul and Tokyo, and 234 golf courses the Pentagon runs worldwide."

It is just a wild guess, but do you suppose that the cost of Warrior's pills are going up, less because of anything Obama has done, and more because of the totally rediculasly inflated Pentagon budget that keeps over 1,000 military installations open around the world, not inclucing those on US soil?

 

[Unkotare]

they are not protecting my rights and most of them join for pay,training and benefits and benifits.get over it

You little ******* ingrate. They are protecting your rights, though you clearly don't deserve what your betters are doing for you. Self-absorbed little ******* pussies like you wouldn't last a minute without them.

is that what drill instructor told you....

No, that's what I'm telling YOU, you little *****.

 

[Connery]

I have had a totally different experience with Tricare than has the OP. My husband is the retiree, and we have been getting our maintenance meds through the mail-order pharmacy less than 50 miles away for several years now. Not only the scrips but the replacement parts for his C-PAP machine are sent out promptly and for FREE. We are very fortunate to be able to use all generic meds and so the cost per scrip for 3 months' supply via mail is...... $0

We are very grateful to have this coverage and service. I encourage everyone who's eligible to take advantage of the mail-order pharmacy option for maintenance meds.

There are some changes I do NOT like - having retirees pay $201 PER CHILD for ages 23-26 for medical coverage is rather expensive, but then it's very good coverage. Since our 23 y/o has an income, we've shifted that expense over to him now so it really doesn't affect us directly. I do think it's unfair, because no other med insurance I've heard of goes by 'per child' - AND because it's a fed mandate which created the necessity for that 'patch' in the first place.

I don't know how the OP's one month supply winds up costing $44/month - but it's clear that the DoD wants to shift as much of retirees scrips to 'mail order' as possible for efficiency and cost savings TO ALL.

Yes, it's irksome to have to pay more when it's stuff the doc says you can't even wait a day to get (our MO folks will 'overnight' if requested - no charge) - but that shouldn't be happening very often for most of us.

I'm not doubting the OP's word about his situation: I just don't see enough information given to explain it, sorry.

I'm a lot MORE upset about the idea of pushing us 'gray area' (under 65) retirees off onto our employers' health plans - not only would our copays triple and our scrips cost us $120/month or more, but we'd be shelling out close to $5,000 in premiums for that coverage instead. (OTOH, it would include the dear child...but still, that's $2600/year we'd be socked)

We PAID for that coverage already: the service members spent 20+ years being available as cannon fodder/targets for wherever and whenever the US Government chose to send them, and yes the families have paid as well.

It is not right to take away coverage that was included when our sponsors signed up: if the financial situation is so dire as all that, then Congress should be foregoing some perks before stripping them from the vets.

Hate the President all you wish, but he's still only one man. And I don't see one political party standing up for the vets, not at all.

I just want to reiterate MAIL ORDER MEDS is a viable and less costly option. I tell the people I deal with to do so and rarely if ever are they kicked back as being unavailable or not a covered item.

 

[rdean]

Who Serves in the U.S. Military? The Demographics of Enlisted Troops and Officers

Interactive U.S. map of troop representation levels
Who serves in the active-duty ranks of the U.S. all-volunteer military? Conventional wisdom holds that military service disproportionately attracts minorities and men and women from disadvantaged backgrounds. Many believe that troops enlist because they have few options, not because they want to serve their country. Others believe that the war in Iraq has forced the military to lower its recruiting standards.

Military Recruiting Standards | Demographics of Military Personnel

Remember when Bush was recruiting felons? It was a sad day for the military.

The Military's Moral Blinders: Criminals Preferred to Fill Ranks Over Gays - The Washington Note

 

[rdean]

I have had a totally different experience with Tricare than has the OP. My husband is the retiree, and we have been getting our maintenance meds through the mail-order pharmacy less than 50 miles away for several years now. Not only the scrips but the replacement parts for his C-PAP machine are sent out promptly and for FREE. We are very fortunate to be able to use all generic meds and so the cost per scrip for 3 months' supply via mail is...... $0

We are very grateful to have this coverage and service. I encourage everyone who's eligible to take advantage of the mail-order pharmacy option for maintenance meds.

There are some changes I do NOT like - having retirees pay $201 PER CHILD for ages 23-26 for medical coverage is rather expensive, but then it's very good coverage. Since our 23 y/o has an income, we've shifted that expense over to him now so it really doesn't affect us directly. I do think it's unfair, because no other med insurance I've heard of goes by 'per child' - AND because it's a fed mandate which created the necessity for that 'patch' in the first place.

I don't know how the OP's one month supply winds up costing $44/month - but it's clear that the DoD wants to shift as much of retirees scrips to 'mail order' as possible for efficiency and cost savings TO ALL.

Yes, it's irksome to have to pay more when it's stuff the doc says you can't even wait a day to get (our MO folks will 'overnight' if requested - no charge) - but that shouldn't be happening very often for most of us.

I'm not doubting the OP's word about his situation: I just don't see enough information given to explain it, sorry.

I'm a lot MORE upset about the idea of pushing us 'gray area' (under 65) retirees off onto our employers' health plans - not only would our copays triple and our scrips cost us $120/month or more, but we'd be shelling out close to $5,000 in premiums for that coverage instead. (OTOH, it would include the dear child...but still, that's $2600/year we'd be socked)

We PAID for that coverage already: the service members spent 20+ years being available as cannon fodder/targets for wherever and whenever the US Government chose to send them, and yes the families have paid as well.

It is not right to take away coverage that was included when our sponsors signed up: if the financial situation is so dire as all that, then Congress should be foregoing some perks before stripping them from the vets.

Hate the President all you wish, but he's still only one man. And I don't see one political party standing up for the vets, not at all.

I do.

President Obama?s Plan to Put Veterans Back to Work | The White House

First Lady Michelle Obama Announces 125,000 Veterans & Military Spouses Hired through Joining Forces | The White House

 

[High_Gravity]

its a job.. don't like the benefits find a different job

Our soldiers aren't in the military just for the benefits...most joined because they wanted to do something for their country, and to protect the rights of imbeciles like you. They EARN those benefits by putting their lives in danger....and people like you want to take them away, or make it harder on them than it needs to be.

they are not protecting my rights and most of them join for pay,training and benefits and benifits.get over it

Why do you hate the US Military so much, but are in love with Hamas?

 

[ArmyCowboy]

Damn, some folks sure cry a lot when their government benefits get cut.

 

[Warrior102]

Damn, some folks sure cry a lot when their government benefits get cut.

Benefit? It's something me - and millions of others who chose to serve this country - were promised.

When Obama tells you "I promise not to cum in your mouth," do you believe --- or do you swallow?

My guess is the latter.

 

[Warrior102]

Express Scripts - just enrolled. On one of my meds (the $44 one for 30 days - blood pressure) - it's now $43 for THREE MONTHS - and delivered to the house. No more CVS. This program (home delivery) has been around for years and years - but I never even considered it, until the current military hating nut-sack began his second term.

 

[Caroljo]

its a job.. don't like the benefits find a different job

Our soldiers aren't in the military just for the benefits...most joined because they wanted to do something for their country, and to protect the rights of imbeciles like you. They EARN those benefits by putting their lives in danger....and people like you want to take them away, or make it harder on them than it needs to be.

they are not protecting my rights and most of them join for pay,training and benefits and benifits.get over it

Proof that MOST of them do this? Sure, i know some do....because our country can't provide jobs or affordable schooling for them, so they need to do this. Too bad they can't CHOOSE who they defend....someone like you would be on the top of their list to avoid keeping you safe.

 

[kiwiman127]

Let's see. Warrior was complaining a few months ago about how little his benefits went up and now he has to pay more for his pharmaceuticals,another trauma in Warrior's life.
Welcome to the world that has been cast for the working Middle Class. We have seen flat wages for decades that have fallen short with keeping up with inflation. We've seen the quality of our health insurance decline while the cost has risen faster than inflation.
Guess what Warrior,,you aren't special, just like the rest of us.

 

[Warrior102]

Let's see. Warrior was complaining a few months ago about how little his benefits went up and now he has to pay more for his pharmaceuticals,another trauma in Warrior's life.
Welcome to the world that has been cast for the working Middle Class. We have seen flat wages for decades that have fallen short with keeping up with inflation. We've seen the quality of our health insurance decline while the cost has risen faster than inflation.
Guess what Warrior,,you aren't special, just like the rest of us.

Those who have served their country for the majority of their lives are now in your social class of lowlifes?

Think not

Neg rep'd for your anti veteran point if view

 

[MHunterB]

Express Scripts - just enrolled. On one of my meds (the $44 one for 30 days - blood pressure) - it's now $43 for THREE MONTHS - and delivered to the house. No more CVS. This program (home delivery) has been around for years and years - but I never even considered it, until the current military hating nut-sack began his second term.

They wanted us to consider it for the convenience and the savings. I'm glad you've enrolled: I hope your experience is as good as ours has been : ))

 

[MHunterB]

Damn, some folks sure cry a lot when their government benefits get cut.

Here's the problem with your view: it's actually an *entitlement* which was part of the package vets signed for. We kept our end of the deal, and the government has changed their end on us without - we feel - a good and sufficient reason.

Most of us - and I say 'us' with no qualms because family gives up plenty, too! - would be willing to give up something to help out. We just don't really care for being shoved to the head of the line to 'volunteer' for cuts while Congress still gets their pay raises and solid gold pension plans.

Whatever gets voted for 'welfare' recipients, that is what Congress members and staff should get as their health/vision/dental plans..... When did any of us get to vote on what they have as benefits?

 

[MHunterB]

its a job.. don't like the benefits find a different job

That is a very, very ******* poor attitude toward those who safeguard YOUR freedoms, you ******* ingrate.

If you expected anything positive from one of our resident arch-bigots, the more fool you. It's a bigot - OF COURSE it's stupid and irrational and devoid of morality!

 

[ArmyCowboy]

Damn, some folks sure cry a lot when their government benefits get cut.

Benefit? It's something me - and millions of others who chose to serve this country - were promised.

When Obama tells you "I promise not to cum in your mouth," do you believe --- or do you swallow?

My guess is the latter.

You weren't "promised" any such thing.

Look at your enlistment contracts (or better yet have someone read them to you, since you're obviously too stupid to comprehend them) and you'll see exactly what you were and weren't promised.

I've spent the last 14 years of my career as a Career Counselor and I've had to deal with semi-illiterate idiots like yourself you have no clue exactly what you should be receiving.

Of course you could get your lard ass out of your truck and lose about 50 pounds and maybe you wouldn't need so much medication for blood preasure, but I guess expecting some stupid gap-tooth redneck to take responsibility for himself is too much to ask.

 

[ArmyCowboy]

Damn, some folks sure cry a lot when their government benefits get cut.

Here's the problem with your view: it's actually an *entitlement* which was part of the package vets signed for. We kept our end of the deal, and the government has changed their end on us without - we feel - a good and sufficient reason.

Most of us - and I say 'us' with no qualms because family gives up plenty, too! - would be willing to give up something to help out. We just don't really care for being shoved to the head of the line to 'volunteer' for cuts while Congress still gets their pay raises and solid gold pension plans.

Whatever gets voted for 'welfare' recipients, that is what Congress members and staff should get as their health/vision/dental plans..... When did any of us get to vote on what they have as benefits?

Free medical care for life was never an entitlement promised to anyone in the military.

Learn how to read a contract.

 

[aplcr0331]

How much is your yearly premium for Tricare?

 

[ArmyCowboy]

How much is your yearly premium for Tricare?

Now or later this year when I'm retired?

Now it's nothing. When I retire it will be $460/yr.