Texas mall shooter was stopped by an armed citizen.....notice how the press didn't cover this....

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Can't let it get out that armed good guys who are not cops or navy SEALs stop mass public shooters...might encourage more people to carry guns for self defense....


Police in Texas said this week that the 16-year-old suspected of shooting three people at an El Paso mall was shot by a citizen who was legally carrying a firearm at the mall.

The suspect, a Hispanic male, is accused of killing 17-year-old Angeles Zaragoza and wounding two others, a 20-year-old Hispanic male and a 17-year-old Hispanic male. According to police, the alleged shooter was shot by 32-year-old Emmanuel Duran as he fled the scene.

 
Can't let it get out that armed good guys who are not cops or navy SEALs stop mass public shooters...might encourage more people to carry guns for self defense....


Police in Texas said this week that the 16-year-old suspected of shooting three people at an El Paso mall was shot by a citizen who was legally carrying a firearm at the mall.

The suspect, a Hispanic male, is accused of killing 17-year-old Angeles Zaragoza and wounding two others, a 20-year-old Hispanic male and a 17-year-old Hispanic male. According to police, the alleged shooter was shot by 32-year-old Emmanuel Duran as he fled the scene.


Still no motive announced about this attack. All MSM stories just start talking about the 2019 Walmart attack by the “racist”.

Sounds like a gang banger shooting.
 
Still no motive announced about this attack. All MSM stories just start talking about the 2019 Walmart attack by the “racist”.

Sounds like a gang banger shooting.


Seems exactly like a gang shooting.......which is also why it isn't getting any coverage......the main reason is it was stopped by an armed citizen....that will kill any coverage of one of these shootings, like the one in Indiana.....
 
The one right most Canadians don't understsnd are your Second Amendment rights. I think I understsnd it.
 
The one right most Canadians don't understsnd are your Second Amendment rights. I think I understsnd it.

Americans don't understand that they are slowly losing that right and that it will indeed be taken away if Americans continue to think that documents will protect their rights rather than their own difficult sacrifices.

Freedom was never free.
 
And again, the story makes it clear that the shooting had ended, the suspect was running away, and the damage had already been done.

When will a gun violence story ever tell us that the good guy shot first to prevent deaths by gun?
 
Knowing that mass shootings are only perpetrated by conservative white males, it's weird how so many are done by people other than conservative white males.
Like so many lefty narratives, it's a riddle wrapped in an enigma & shoved up the back side of a conundrum.

Way to go good guy with a gun!!
 
And again, the story makes it clear that the shooting had ended, the suspect was running away, and the damage had already been done.

When will a gun violence story ever tell us that the good guy shot first to prevent deaths by gun?


We do hear those stories.....not in the main stream media....but in local media before they realize they have to kill the story....
 
And again, the story makes it clear that the shooting had ended, the suspect was running away, and the damage had already been done.

When will a gun violence story ever tell us that the good guy shot first to prevent deaths by gun?


Like this....

Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events [FBI]

Of all the active shooter events there were 33 at which an armed citizen was present. Of those, Armed Citizens were successful at stopping the Active shooter 75.8% of the time (25 incidents) and were successful in reducing the loss of life in an additional 18.2% (6) of incidents. In only 2 of the 33 incidents (6.1%) was the Armed Citizen(s) not helpful in any way in stopping the active shooter or reducing the loss of life.

Thus the headline of our report that Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events.


In the 2 incidents at which the armed citizen “failed” to stop or slow the active shooter, one is the previously mentioned incident with hunters. The other is an incident in which the CCWer was shot in the back in a Las Vegas Walmart when he failed to identify that there were 2 Active Shooters involved in the attack. He neglected to identify the one that shot him in the back while he was trying to ambush the other perpetrator.

We also decided to look at the breakdown of events that took place in gun free zones and the relative death toll from events in gun free zones vs non-gun-free zones.

Of the 283 incidents in our data pool, we were unable to identify if the event took place in a gun-free zone in a large number (41%) of the events. Most of the events took place at a business, church, home, or other places at which as a rule of law it is not a gun free zone but potentially could have been declared one by the property owner. Without any information in the FBI study or any indication one way or the other from the news reports, we have indicated that event with a question mark.

If you look at all of the Active Shooter events (pie chart on the top) you see that for those which we have the information, almost twice as many took place in gun free zones than not; but realistically the vast majority of those for which we have no information (indicated as ?) are probably NOT gun free zones.

If you isolate just the events at which 8 or more people were killed the data paints a different picture (pie chart on the bottom). In these incidents, 77.8% took place in a gun-free zone suggesting that gun free zones lead to a higher death rate vs active shooter events in general

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One of the final metrics we thought was important to consider is the potential tendency for armed citizens to injure or kill innocent people in their attempt to “save the day.” A common point in political discussions is to point out the lack of training of most armed citizens and the decrease in safety inherent in their presence during violent encounters.

As you can see below, however, at the 33 incidents at which Armed Citizens were present, there were zero situations at which the Armed Citizen injured or killed an innocent person. It never happened.
 
And again, the story makes it clear that the shooting had ended, the suspect was running away, and the damage had already been done.

When will a gun violence story ever tell us that the good guy shot first to prevent deaths by gun?
Uh... you know that happens more than you hear right?

 
And again, the story makes it clear that the shooting had ended, the suspect was running away, and the damage had already been done.

When will a gun violence story ever tell us that the good guy shot first to prevent deaths by gun?


You see, Donald......in order to stop the attacker, the good guy actually has to first have his own gun.....and since almost every public space in this country has banned carrying guns, because of dipshits like you, there aren't too many times where normal people have their legal guns with them to stop attackers....in gun free zones....

You keep normal people from stopping these nuts.....
 
Can't let it get out that armed good guys who are not cops or navy SEALs stop mass public shooters...might encourage more people to carry guns for self defense....


Police in Texas said this week that the 16-year-old suspected of shooting three people at an El Paso mall was shot by a citizen who was legally carrying a firearm at the mall.

The suspect, a Hispanic male, is accused of killing 17-year-old Angeles Zaragoza and wounding two others, a 20-year-old Hispanic male and a 17-year-old Hispanic male. According to police, the alleged shooter was shot by 32-year-old Emmanuel Duran as he fled the scene.


The Democrats and their media are constantly SHAPING the news to fit their narratives. It is fundamentally dishonest and it is undermining the country. It is up to citizens to reject them and their media messages.
 
Thanks....that happened the same week as the guy at the Indiana mall....neither story had the same coverage as any mass public shooting...
I walk around the Greenwood Mall in Indiana you are referring to almost every day, I live less than a mile away. I rarely do not get my 10k steps per day in and the mall is an easy place to do it in the winter. I carry all the time, except when I am in the Mall. Simon (also owns the Pacers) will not allow firearms in his malls. Even after the kid (good guy with a gun) killed the bad guy from across the food court. A few months ago a couple of legal, responsible gun owners were banned from Simon Malls for life for carrying a firearm in the mall. Then there was the next shooting in the parking lot of the same mall. I dunno. We aint doing something right.
 
You see, Donald......in order to stop the attacker, the good guy actually has to first have his own gun.....and since almost every public space in this country has banned carrying guns, because of dipshits like you, there aren't too many times where normal people have their legal guns with them to stop attackers....in gun free zones....

You keep normal people from stopping these nuts.....
The socalled good guy with a gun needs to learn who the bad guys are so they can shoot first. But then the good guy with a gun suddenly becomes the murderer with a gun.

Go figure? It's impossible to stop a shooter and still be able to know which one with a gun is the good guy.

If you can't eliminate both of them from the trouble, what 'can' be eliminated to stop setting another record for mass shootings? I just don't know it there's an answer to the problem?


Oh wait!

All good guys with guns must wear white hats with a red sticker to warn bad guys with black hats.

But really 2A and all joking aside. Who the fk cares?
 
The Democrats and their media are constantly SHAPING the news to fit their narratives. It is fundamentally dishonest and it is undermining the country. It is up to citizens to reject them and their media messages.
STOP. The RWNM is at least as bad.
 
The Democrats and their media are constantly SHAPING the news to fit their narratives. It is fundamentally dishonest and it is undermining the country. It is up to citizens to reject them and their media messages.
The mass shooting will be reduced if the Demonrats just stfu about losing their young to mass shooters.
 
The socalled good guy with a gun needs to learn who the bad guys are so they can shoot first. But then the good guy with a gun suddenly becomes the murderer with a gun.

Go figure? It's impossible to stop a shooter and still be able to know which one with a gun is the good guy.

If you can't eliminate both of them from the trouble, what 'can' be eliminated to stop setting another record for mass shootings? I just don't know it there's an answer to the problem?


Oh wait!

All good guys with guns must wear white hats with a red sticker to warn bad guys with black hats.

But really 2A and all joking aside. Who the fk cares?


You really need to stop mixing your meds with booze...it makes you post dumb stuff like that......
 

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