Terri Schiavo's Husband: Jeb Bush 'Put Me Through Hell'

[ChrisL]

Kenneth Goodman, director of bioethics at the University of Miami School of Medicine and a co-director of the Florida Bioethics Network said that the "removal of feeding tubes is a common practice." He said that there is no pain involved in dying of dehydration and/or starvation.: "Soon after nourishment is denied to the brain, it begins producing chemicals that act as a natural anesthetic. She is not going to feel a thing. The artificial pain medication that Schiavo will receive is to make sure that if there is [pain], it is adequately handled."

More: Euthanasia and Terri Schiavo: What death by dehydration involves

Terri did not feel pain.

Another from your own link, you dishonest POS.

Dr. David Stevens. executive director of the conservative Christian Medical and Dental Associations said that initial effects of the lack of hydration will include extreme thirst, nausea, and cramping. Her skin will dry out and become wrinkled as fluids are drawn from the skin to hydrate the organs. He said: "She's likely to become dizzy and begin to have cramping in her arms and legs. That's because her electrolytes – her sodium, potassium, and other electrolytes in her blood – start getting out of whack because of lack of fluids....She'll see decreased secretions. If she tries to cry, she won't be able to make tears very well, if at all. Her mouth will become dry and saliva thick. You can have cracking of the (mucous membranes) of the mouth and lips as they dry out. People often get headaches, then (become) lethargic and finally go into coma. It actually can cause seizures. As it progressively gets worse, what happens (are) the physical signs. Her blood pressure will drop, her heart rate will pick up. She'll actually, ultimately go into shock. You just don't have enough fluid to keep your blood pressure up, and it drops so low, and that sometimes can be a terminal event, or an arrhythmia of her heart. Her blood will get thicker. Sometimes, people who are severely dehydrated will actually have strokes just because the blood gets so thick that it clots. It's not a pretty picture....If they sedate her, she could be semi-conscious or unconscious while this is going on. It's not a very pleasant experience, unlike what the Hemlock Society and other groups try to make you believe." 5

The above explains the panting and gasping of the eyewitness accounts.

 

[ChrisL]

Kenneth Goodman, director of bioethics at the University of Miami School of Medicine and a co-director of the Florida Bioethics Network said that the "removal of feeding tubes is a common practice." He said that there is no pain involved in dying of dehydration and/or starvation.: "Soon after nourishment is denied to the brain, it begins producing chemicals that act as a natural anesthetic. She is not going to feel a thing. The artificial pain medication that Schiavo will receive is to make sure that if there is [pain], it is adequately handled."

More: Euthanasia and Terri Schiavo: What death by dehydration involves

Terri did not feel pain.

That's not what the eyewitnesses saw. They saw her gasping and panting and making pain faces.

Who were those supposed "eyewitnesses"? Give us some "credible" proof of your claim.

I posted a link already. I can't help it if you aren't paying attention.

I can barely stomach to read your current posts - let alone your previous ones.

Then GTFO. I don't know you. WTF makes you think I care what you think?

 

[RosieS]

If she was still breathing without the help of a machine, then she was not "brain dead." She was severely retarded. Brain dead people are hooked up to machines because they're brains aren't making any connections with the rest of the body, such as the heart, lungs, etc.

If I am ever in her state then I hope you people are ignored and they give me a shot and end it. Especially if you are right that she had awareness. Though she obviously didn't.

Look, if she was in pain and suffering, I would agree, but she wasn't suffering until they disconnected her feeding tube. That CAUSED her to suffer.

Please give us some "credible" proof that having her feeding tube disconnected CAUSED her to suffer. Based on my research - that is NOT true!

I already posted a link with eyewitness accounts from her priest, parents and friends. She was in pain when they disconnected her feeding tube. She was allowed to starve for 2 weeks. Ever feel hungry before?

Yes, I've felt "hungry" before - but my brain wasn't soup.

Neither was hers.

At the point of death, ALL body organs begin to liquefy.

Her brain didn't get soupy until after she was killed.

And this is a dyed-in-the-wool liberal saying this.

I lived at the time near where she died and followed it all closely.

Regards from Rosie

 

[tinydancer]

I disagree completely. He didn't care about her at all obviously. He wasn't even present when she passed on, genius.

You disagree that he was her husband? You lost me.

WTF are you talking about? I disagree that he would be making the best decisions for her. Her parents should have been the decision makers, not her POS cheating husband.

You can't cheat on a dead wife

If he had any kind of respect and caring for his wife, he would have divorced her and left her care up to her parents. He wanted her dead and out of the way.

You're insane. He had nothing to gain by her death other than ending her persistent vegetative state.

You've got to be kidding.

 

[ChrisL]

I can just imagine the horror of being her parents now. Please don't let our baby girl suffer. There is a good chance she could suffer terribly. Please don't remove her feeding tube. We will care for her on our dime. Then, the bastard says, "No! This is what she would have wanted!"

 

[ChrisL]

I find this all terribly upsetting and cruel.

 

[tinydancer]

No living will and when murdering Mikey first petitioned to kill her there was still a good chunk of money left in her estate.

If there's one person I hope karma nails it's Judge Greer. You've got a husband who is lined up to inherit Terri's estate who out of the blue after he makes his share of the malpractice money says that Terri wanted to not ever be on artificial support.

Never before the malpractice suit did he bring it up. Oh no. During the malpractice suit he was all lovey dovey and wanting to take care of her for the rest of her life.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

But Judge Greer took Mike's say so. Unreal. Just unreal. Damn that man to Hell.

 

[Muhammed]

I didn't make any "excuses." I said it's up to her husband, that I'm making "excuses" doesn't even make sense. She married him, she died, it's up to him.

Marrying a woman does not give a man the right to kill her.

 

[JoeB131]

You have no idea what she wanted. I would trust her parents more than her cheating POS husband.

Why. Most people I know tell their spouses things they'd never tell their parents.

 

[ChrisL]

You have no idea what she wanted. I would trust her parents more than her cheating POS husband.

Why. Most people I know tell their spouses things they'd never tell their parents.

Whatever. You can go on believing that this guy had HER best interests at heart. A lot of us know better.

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah, playing the violin for a murderer is just crappy. But look at how they leaped to the defense of cop killer Tookie Williams before his execution. I'm against the death penalty, but I don't eagerly advocate for vicious killers who are getting their just desserts. Their motivation can only be understood by considering the spiritual paradigm. There is a god in this world who is the source of all that is evil and they blindly follow him and support others who do as well. In their world, abortion doctors are heroes while those who defend the right to life are villains. Cop killers are heroes while cops are villains. Their lust for all things evil can only be explained by the devil they serve.

1) There is no God. Deal with it.

2) Some people felt Williams should be spared the death penalty because in the 27 years he was awaiting execution, he did some very good work as an anti-gang activist. But I guess all that stuff you "Christians" preach about "Redemption" doesn't count, eh?

3) Those who defend the "Right to Life" are dupes. That's why abortion is still legal after 40 years. Because you are too stupid to know you are being played. This is a great example. All you Dupes got upset about Schiavo, Bush is your hero now, and even though his Dad and Brother were the to biggest fuckups to ever occupy 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, you will support him. Because hes' right with Jesus. Like I said. Dupes.

Shut up. You don't know shit. You're probably as much a POS as her husband.

Ooooh. I hit a nerve, did I? Kind of harsh when you realize you are being played by people who just want to take advantage of you.

I figured this out in 2008. And then I stopped voting Republican. At least until they chase the religious crazies out of the party.

 

[ChrisL]

Yeah, playing the violin for a murderer is just crappy. But look at how they leaped to the defense of cop killer Tookie Williams before his execution. I'm against the death penalty, but I don't eagerly advocate for vicious killers who are getting their just desserts. Their motivation can only be understood by considering the spiritual paradigm. There is a god in this world who is the source of all that is evil and they blindly follow him and support others who do as well. In their world, abortion doctors are heroes while those who defend the right to life are villains. Cop killers are heroes while cops are villains. Their lust for all things evil can only be explained by the devil they serve.

1) There is no God. Deal with it.

2) Some people felt Williams should be spared the death penalty because in the 27 years he was awaiting execution, he did some very good work as an anti-gang activist. But I guess all that stuff you "Christians" preach about "Redemption" doesn't count, eh?

3) Those who defend the "Right to Life" are dupes. That's why abortion is still legal after 40 years. Because you are too stupid to know you are being played. This is a great example. All you Dupes got upset about Schiavo, Bush is your hero now, and even though his Dad and Brother were the to biggest fuckups to ever occupy 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, you will support him. Because hes' right with Jesus. Like I said. Dupes.

Shut up. You don't know shit. You're probably as much a POS as her husband.

Ooooh. I hit a nerve, did I? Kind of harsh when you realize you are being played by people who just want to take advantage of you.

I figured this out in 2008. And then I stopped voting Republican. At least until they chase the religious crazies out of the party.

Look douche, this has nothing to DO with politics for me. My life doesn't revolve around politics unlike your shallow self.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

How about this woman who just woke up hours before being disconnected?

Her name is Teri.

Mother, 56, wakes HOURS before her life support machine was due to be turned off

• Teri Roberts, 56, was struck down by streptococcal toxic shock syndrome
• She slipped into coma, her limbs turned black and her organs began to fail
• Family reached devastating decision to switch off her life support machine
• But just four hours before they had planned to do so, Mrs Roberts awoke
• 'She just magically woke up,' overjoyed son, Ryan, told a press conference
• After she woke up, Mrs Roberts was forced to have quadruple amputation
• Now, she is focused on future - and is determined to 'walk and drive again'

Teri Roberts awakens HOURS before support machine was to be turned off Daily Mail Online

Better off dead, much better.

 

[JoeB131]

I find this all terribly upsetting and cruel.

Well, you need to get over it. there are people who are suffering in this world a lot more than Terry Schavio's cadaver did. And generally, I don't see you conservatives doing much about that.

 

[BlueGin]

You have no idea what she wanted. I would trust her parents more than her cheating POS husband.

Why. Most people I know tell their spouses things they'd never tell their parents.

Whatever. You can go on believing that this guy had HER best interests at heart. A lot of us know better.

He doesn't believe it... He is just trying to convince you.

 

[JoeB131]

Look douche, this has nothing to DO with politics for me. My life doesn't revolve around politics unlike your shallow self.

Of course this is about politics. The only reason why you know who Terri Schaivo is because someone decided to make a political issue out of her situation.

That you are too dumb to realize you are being played really isn't my problem.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

How about this woman who just woke up hours before being disconnected?

Her name is Teri.

Mother, 56, wakes HOURS before her life support machine was due to be turned off

• Teri Roberts, 56, was struck down by streptococcal toxic shock syndrome
• She slipped into coma, her limbs turned black and her organs began to fail
• Family reached devastating decision to switch off her life support machine
• But just four hours before they had planned to do so, Mrs Roberts awoke
• 'She just magically woke up,' overjoyed son, Ryan, told a press conference
• After she woke up, Mrs Roberts was forced to have quadruple amputation
• Now, she is focused on future - and is determined to 'walk and drive again'

Teri Roberts awakens HOURS before support machine was to be turned off Daily Mail Online

She wasn't a flat liner like Terri. No flat liner has ever woken up. Just the term, "wakes up." When you sleep, the implication, you dream. People in a coma dream. Flat liners don't. To dream, you have to have brainwaves. You know what they measure when they analyze dreamers? Brainwaves...

You're ******* wrong. She was not a "flat liner." She could breath on her own, and her heart was still beating.

Brain Dead is Dead Serendip Studio

Breathing and heart beating are autonomic functions, and she had no brain waves, you can't change that fact, you can just ignore it, which you keep trying to do.

If she was still breathing without the help of a machine, then she was not "brain dead." She was severely retarded. Brain dead people are hooked up to machines because they're brains aren't making any connections with the rest of the body, such as the heart, lungs, etc.

You need to learn the biology. Just because a body is still breathing doesn't mean anyone is home. In her case no one was or had been since she hit the floor.

 

[ChrisL]

Look douche, this has nothing to DO with politics for me. My life doesn't revolve around politics unlike your shallow self.

Of course this is about politics. The only reason why you know who Terri Schaivo is because someone decided to make a political issue out of her situation.

That you are too dumb to realize you are being played really isn't my problem.

You are just too shallow. If this was my child and there was SLIGHTEST chance that she would suffer from the action of removing the feeding tube, I would fight it tooth and nail with everything I had. Just because you are an ass doesn't mean everyone else is.

 

[JoeB131]

You have no idea what she wanted. I would trust her parents more than her cheating POS husband.

Why. Most people I know tell their spouses things they'd never tell their parents.

Whatever. You can go on believing that this guy had HER best interests at heart. A lot of us know better.

I'm sorry, what was the "Good answer" here, exactly?

Letting her brain dead corpse expire.... or keeping it alive because her family wasn't able to let go.

There were no "good" choices here.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

[
Before the settlement he was pretending he wanted to become a nurse and take care of her for the rest of his life.

Wow, he must have been a hell of an actor, then?

You fell for it. Not that that's saying much.

Back when this happened, I was one of you Right Wingers screaming the loudest about this.

I even came up with a really clever comparison about how "libs" would be screaming if we did this to a prisoner at Gitmo, because that's what they were upset about at the time.

Today, I realize that all the anti-abortion shit, all the right to life shit, all the gun control shit and all the gay marriage shit is just attempts to keep stupid people voting against their own economic interests while the rich get richer.

I refuse to be fooled, like you do.

End of the day, she still died. But a lot of you I suspect will get behind BUsh because he took this stand, even though he would be as about as disasterous for working folks as his Dad and Brother were.

She didn't die. She was killed. Murder by the state. Murder by her husband.

They starved her to death. They dehydrated her to death. My Lord, as compassionate human beings as we are supposed to be we wouldn't even allow an animal to die like that.

It's beyond reprehensible. It is beyond appalling. It is horrific beyond words.

And yet here we are today and people are still attempting to justify how they let this woman die.

you make a good point. If my dog got sick and i put him down myself the same liberals would be accusing me dog abuse.

No, that is the only humane thing to do in many cases, including that of this woman. You people need to stop being such children about life and death. It's a brutal game so get over it.