Tennessee executes child killer Billy Ray Irick with drug that inflicts 'torturous pain'

[Auld Phart]

Haven't heard of a method to remove cancer, that doesn't cause the removal of some uninfected cells.

 

[SaxxyBlues]

it is the extremely painful effects of the drug they are choosing to use. That is where the Constitution comes in.

Again how can it be painful if they are not conscious and did not respond to being pinched? Please explain

 

[MaryL]

Read the Constitution

Referring to the 8th?

"The Eighth Amendment (Amendment VIII) to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights (ratified December 15, 1791) prohibiting the federal government from imposing excessive bail, excessive fines, or cruel and unusual punishment."

Yep, that would be it.

Appalling that these death-penalty freak wags above sit and revel in sadism. Even if one advocates the death penalty the idea is to rid society of the criminal, not to exact "revenge". That these freaks froth at the mouth over the sadism aspect just demonstrates the moral paucity of their position.

sadism?

I'd be happy if they felt 1/10th of the pain, suffering, and torture they visited on thier victims.

Innocent people have been on death row and executed.

Yes, and its sad. And preventable, I have been a juror. Our judicial system is flat out busted. The rules of the system, they are stupid. Disallowing evidence because it was gotten without a warrant? Really? Perhaps we should just wrap the police investigators on the knuckles, don't throw out perfectly good evidence. Facts are facts. We are so deluded here. It boggles my mind.

 

[Coyote]

it is the extremely painful effects of the drug they are choosing to use. That is where the Constitution comes in.

Again how can it be painful if they are not conscious and did not respond to being pinched? Please explain

It is an unknown.

 

[Coyote]

Haven't heard of a method to remove cancer, that doesn't cause the removal of some uninfected cells.

Is that how you view killing innocent people?

 

[Auld Phart]

Haven't heard of a method to remove cancer, that doesn't cause the removal of some uninfected cells.

Is that how you view killing innocent people?

no

that's how I view executing rapists, murderers, and other that qualify for the death penalty.


More likely to die of old age in prison, due to appeals, than legal execution.

 

[Aba Incieni]

So, a guy that inflicted needless pain and suffering on others,will be subject to pain and suffering? Implying there's a negative side here? Explain that to me. What is the "bad' side here?

It degrades us as a civilization. Or a purported civilization anyway.

Kind of like why we don't engage in torture. Or burn women at the stake.

The death penalty shows that we, as a society, put such a sacred bond on life that if you take one, you sacrifice your own.

That is no sacred bond.

Yes it is. Ask the child murderer if you don't believe me.

 

[MaryL]

Innocent people have been executed by the Justice system. Probably. Innocent people have died at the hands of doctors and health care insurers, Kaiser and their petty bean counters. Cancer? Your mom doesn't have cancer! We can't afford to cover that treatment ! Well, so it goes. To quote Vonnegut. Innocent people. Is there even such a thing anymore?

 

[Aba Incieni]

Guilty people have been set free.

 

[MaryL]

Guilty people have been set free.

Guilty people get set free. Hmm, all those criminal sociopaths that get away, does that offset the broken justice system that puts to death innocent people? I am like, NAH. Let's fix the justice system. I have no problem with the death penalty. Jeffery Dahmer, or that Oklahoma city mass murderer, McVeigh. Please.

 

[jasonnfree]

Good news! ... Need to see more of this ... and at faster pace(s).

Tennessee executes child killer Billy Ray Irick with drug that inflicts 'torturous pain'
Tennessee has carried out its first execution in nearly a decade using a controversial cocktail of drugs including a lethal ingredient described by the Supreme ...

The Independent
yesterday


Reporter describes Bill Ray Irick's final words | Watch News Videos Online
Tennessee executed it's first inmate in a decade Thursday night. Bill Ray Irick was sentenced to death for the rape and murder of 7-year-old Paula Dyer in Knox ...

Globalnews.ca
yesterday

Too bad it's not bush and cheney being executed. Think of all the Iraqi children murdered by our military because of their lies.

 

[jillian]

Good news! ... Need to see more of this ... and at faster pace(s).

Tennessee executes child killer Billy Ray Irick with drug that inflicts 'torturous pain'
Tennessee has carried out its first execution in nearly a decade using a controversial cocktail of drugs including a lethal ingredient described by the Supreme ...

The Independent
yesterday


Reporter describes Bill Ray Irick's final words | Watch News Videos Online
Tennessee executed it's first inmate in a decade Thursday night. Bill Ray Irick was sentenced to death for the rape and murder of 7-year-old Paula Dyer in Knox ...

Globalnews.ca
yesterday

So what if it violates the constituent, right? It’s nit like that document means anything to your ilk anyway

 

[airplanemechanic]

Good news! ... Need to see more of this ... and at faster pace(s).

Tennessee executes child killer Billy Ray Irick with drug that inflicts 'torturous pain'
Tennessee has carried out its first execution in nearly a decade using a controversial cocktail of drugs including a lethal ingredient described by the Supreme ...

The Independent
yesterday


Reporter describes Bill Ray Irick's final words | Watch News Videos Online
Tennessee executed it's first inmate in a decade Thursday night. Bill Ray Irick was sentenced to death for the rape and murder of 7-year-old Paula Dyer in Knox ...

Globalnews.ca
yesterday

Too bad it's not bush and cheney being executed. Think of all the Iraqi children murdered by our military because of their lies.

I agree, lets execute Obama too for killing all of those innocent people with his drone strikes.

 

[Markle]

From the link:

>> "In refusing to grant Irick a stay, the Court today turns a blind eye to a proven likelihood that the State of Tennessee is on the verge of inflicting several minutes of torturous pain on an inmate in its custody," Ms Sotomayor wrote. "If the law permits this execution to go forward in spite of the horrific final minutes that Irick may well experience, then we have stopped being a civilised nation and accepted barbarism."

The US Supreme Court has described potassium chloride as "chemically burning at the stake". <<

Keywords, LIKELIHOOD, and MAY.

Other keywords, SO WHAT?

How is it possible to torture someone who raped and murdered a seven-year-old little girl?

If it was your daughter or granddaughter?

We should speed the process up. Limit all appeals to two years after the sentence is pronounced.

 

[Pogo]

From the link:

>> "In refusing to grant Irick a stay, the Court today turns a blind eye to a proven likelihood that the State of Tennessee is on the verge of inflicting several minutes of torturous pain on an inmate in its custody," Ms Sotomayor wrote. "If the law permits this execution to go forward in spite of the horrific final minutes that Irick may well experience, then we have stopped being a civilised nation and accepted barbarism."

The US Supreme Court has described potassium chloride as "chemically burning at the stake". <<

Keywords, LIKELIHOOD, and MAY.

Other keywords, SO WHAT?

How is it possible to torture someone who raped and murdered a seven-year-old little girl?

If it was your daughter or granddaughter?

We should speed the process up. Limit all appeals to two years after the sentence is pronounced.

I've made the observation several times that every argument for this kind of sadism, every one without exception, is completely built on an Appeal to Emotion fallacy.

So take a number, you just re-demonstrated exactly that.

 

[Markle]

So what if it violates the constituent, right? It’s nit like that document means anything to your ilk anyway

So you believe that everyone should get to pick and choose which parts of the constitution should apply?

 

[Markle]

We need the death penalty to punish those that took an innocent life. I understand the human nature of revenge however if we execute with the intent to inflict pain, then we as a society are no better than the person we executed.

 

[Markle]

Innocent people have been on death row and executed.

Who and when in recent history?

 

[MaryL]

I have to say, and perhaps off topic, but when the judicial system "excludes" evidence, THAT to me is mind boggling. You have evidence of A) guilt B) innocence. Don't throw it out! Facts are facts! Warrant or not. This isn't a intellectual game of hide and seek, ALL the known facts need to be out there. Fruit of the poisoned tree my sweet bippy. I swear, I will never ever again be a jurist ever ever again, the legal system is just a pathetic game. Like a game of chess with human lives at stake. I don't want any part of that game again.

 

[Markle]

I have to say, and perhaps off topic, but when the judicial system "excludes" evidence, THAT to me is mind boggling. You have evidence of A) guilt B) innocence. Don't throw it out! Facts are facts! Warrant or not. This isn't a intellectual game of hide and seek, ALL the known facts need to be out there. Fruit of the poisoned tree my sweet bippy. I swear, I will never ever again be a jurist ever ever again, the legal system is just a pathetic game. Like a game of chess with human lives at stake. I don't want any part of that game again.

Which is why we need extensive tort reform just as we need immigration reform.