Temperature measuring stations are still located in places that wreck their data.....

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An update on the 2009 report on the locations of temperature measuring stations in the U.S.........where you have temperature readers located next to heat vents.....and other silly things that make the data worthless...

The article mentioning the report is from Breitbart, and I also linked to the report they linked to...........




A study that investigated the placement of National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) temperature stations foundthat 96 percent of the facilities used to measure heat failed to meet the agencies own “uncorrupted placement” standards.

Research for the study shows that the 96 percent corruption is because thestations’ measurements are tainted by the effects of urbanization – or heat produced because of their close proximity to asphalt, machinery, and other heat-producing, heat-trapping, or heat-accentuating objects.

The Heartland Institute compiled the report using satellite and in-person surveys of NOAA weather stations that contribute to the “official” land temperatures in the United States.

“With a 96 percent warm-bias in U.S. temperature measurements, it is impossible to use any statistical methods to derive an accurate climate trend for the U.S.” Heartland Institute Senior Fellow Anthony Watts, who directed the study, said is the study announcement distributed to the press. “Data from the stations that have not been corrupted by faulty placement show a rate of warming in the United States reduced by almost half compared to all stations.”
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From the actual report...

2022 SURFACE STATIONS SURVEY: EXAMPLES OF SITING ISSUES, GOOD AND BAD

This section presents photographic examples of USHCN and GHCN station siting. The majority of stations are not in compliance with NWS publication 10-1302, but examples of those in compliance are also given. Station locations, observed issues, and explanations are given in the image captions.

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MMTS placement in COOP observer’s yard next to an ODOT maintenance facility in Basque, OR. Note the very large asphalt parking lot in the aerial photo and the yellow marker indicating the MMTS placement. Basque is an isolated small town, with the next town 30 miles away. It would be categorized as exceptionally rural, yet the GHCN thermometer is placed directly next to the largest heat sink. Source: Anthony Watts, Google Earth.
 
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NOAA doesn't maintain thermometers for climate study ... too expensive ... their thermometers are located at airports, so pilots can calculate the density altitude ... and these thermometers are good enough for farmers to know when freezing weather is coming ...

Studies have been done and the papers linked to here in these very pages ... you can read them yourself and learn how science deals with the problems you listed above ... the treads don't change but the magnitude does ... but then only MORONS believe in catastrophic climate change ... hypercanes and hockey sticks ... boogerman and Satan Claws ...

Though I did get a good laugh at the road sensors you pointed out ... Oregon Department of Transportation is just chuck full of fluid machinists, world's leading authority in climate, truckers all over the nation rely on Oregon's DOT to provide climate forecasts for the 22nd Century ... even though we only have half the State covered with Doppler Radar ... we don't need radar to know it rains every day all day long ...

If you don't think the Earth's average surface temperature is 14ºC ... then what do you think it is? ...
 
NOAA doesn't maintain thermometers for climate study ... too expensive ... their thermometers are located at airports, so pilots can calculate the density altitude ... and these thermometers are good enough for farmers to know when freezing weather is coming ...

Studies have been done and the papers linked to here in these very pages ... you can read them yourself and learn how science deals with the problems you listed above ... the treads don't change but the magnitude does ... but then only MORONS believe in catastrophic climate change ... hypercanes and hockey sticks ... boogerman and Satan Claws ...

Though I did get a good laugh at the road sensors you pointed out ... Oregon Department of Transportation is just chuck full of fluid machinists, world's leading authority in climate, truckers all over the nation rely on Oregon's DOT to provide climate forecasts for the 22nd Century ... even though we only have half the State covered with Doppler Radar ... we don't need radar to know it rains every day all day long ...

If you don't think the Earth's average surface temperature is 14ºC ... then what do you think it is? ...
Can you point to a single scientific climate organization that backs your desperate opinion that AGW is not happening?

Why is that?
 
Can you point to a single scientific climate organization that backs your desperate opinion that AGW is not happening?

Why is that?


KInd of like when every scientist told Galileo that he was wrong..........alll of the science organizations in his time told him the sun revolved around the earth........
 
KInd of like when every scientist told Galileo that he was wrong........
The scientists of his time did NOT tell Galileo he was wrong. Only the church told him he was wrong. Galileo's heliocentrism was widespread among the educated.
alll of the science organizations in his time told him the sun revolved around the earth........
No, they did not. Only the church told him so.
 
The scientists of his time did NOT tell Galileo he was wrong. Only the church told him he was wrong. Galileo's heliocentrism was widespread among the educated.

No, they did not. Only the church told him so.


And the left wing, fascist, man made global warming cultists are the ones telling us man is responsible for the climate today.......
 
And the left wing, fascist, man made global warming cultists are the ones telling us man is responsible for the climate today.......
Humans are responsible for this CO2 increase and this warming.
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And that's neither from leftists nor fascists. It's from a whole bunch of scientists from NASA, NOAA, Hadley and JMA
 
All the Co2 fraud ever had was warming on the surface of growing urban areas. The rest is all 100% fudge and fraud.
 
KInd of like when every scientist told Galileo that he was wrong..........alll of the science organizations in his time told him the sun revolved around the earth........
No, the church told Galileo he was wrong.

Also, we have more scientists and understanding of our world now.
 
Can you point to a single scientific climate organization that backs your desperate opinion that AGW is not happening?

Why is that?
Can you point to a single government agency that claims AGW is real that haven't been caught lying or fabricating data at one time or another?
 
More likely going against the narrative cost her job. Try some honesty.
No, that is exceedingly less likely. She is in the precise situation as a geologist rejecting plate tectonics or a biologist rejecting evolution. Neither would be likely to get published; not from censorship but from a failure to convincingly make their cases.
 
No, that is exceedingly less likely. She is in the precise situation as a geologist rejecting plate tectonics or a biologist rejecting evolution. Neither would be likely to get published; not from censorship but from a failure to convincingly make their cases.
She made her case to me. Hoaxes never impressed and they are not going to start now.
 
She made her case to me.
OOOOooooo... THAT is really impressive!!!
Hoaxes never impressed and they are not going to start now.
You have no logical reason (ie, evidence, reason or logic) to believe that AGW is a hoax. You have no logical reason to reject mainstream science on this or any other topic. Yet you do. I'd hate to tell you what that tells the rest of us about you and your judgement.
 
OOOOooooo... THAT is really impressive!!!

You have no logical reason (ie, evidence, reason or logic) to believe that AGW is a hoax. You have no logical reason to reject mainstream science on this or any other topic. Yet you do. I'd hate to tell you what that tells the rest of us about you and your judgement.
You have no logical reason to believe anyone who have never had one climate prediction come true.
 
You have no logical reason to believe anyone who have never had one climate prediction come true.
As has been repeatedly pointed out to you and yours, if you want to see if scientists' predictions have come true, you should look to see what scientists have actually predicted rather than take the word of your fossil fuel masters. Science has predicted that CO2 levels in the atmosphere will continue to rise. That has been the case. They have predicted that global temperatures will continue to rise. That has been the case. They have predicted the global sea levels will also continue to rise. That has been the case. No scientists has ever predicted that there would be no snow and ice left on Earth ten years ago. No scientist has ever predicted that humanity would be extinct ten years ago. No scientist has ever predicted that Florida would be underwater ten years ago. I haven't the slightest interest in what your fossil fuel masters have told you because they lie and you're stupid as fuck.
 

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