Temperature measuring stations are still located in places that wreck their data.....

[Lastamender]

Is that John Kerry the heavily published, hugely cited, world famous, nobel prize-winning climate scientist or John Kerry the climate czar?

I don't care, they are both wrong.

 

[Crick]

I don't care, they are both wrong.

I am almost completely certain that his statement originated as a very qualified possibility expressed by some scientist. The rate of sea ice extent decline was headed for a zero intercept at least that far back. That is, a plot of the ice extent data reasonably extended would have hit zero by 2014 or even earlier. But, like a lot of natural processes, it didn't remain on that track. That's one of the many reasons you see so many modal verbs in real science.

Imagine what these data looked like in, say, 2011.

 

[Lastamender]

I am almost completely certain that his statement originated as a very qualified possibility expressed by some scientist. The rate of sea ice extent decline was headed for a zero intercept at least that far back. That is, a plot of the ice extent data reasonably extended would have hit zero by 2014 or even earlier. But, like a lot of natural processes, it didn't remain on that track. That's one of the many reasons you see so many modal verbs in real science.

It is a con. It is about control. It is about making human existence miserable except for the very few.

 

[Crick]

It is a con. It is about control. It is about making human existence miserable except for the very few.

An opinion like this makes me think you need counseling.

 

[Lastamender]

An opinion like this makes me think you need counseling.

I think you need to get out of the house.

 

[Crick]

I think you need to get out of the house.

It's raining and there are hail and tornado warnings in my area. I think I'll stay right here.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Can you point to a single scientific climate organization that backs your desperate opinion that AGW is not happening?

Why is that?

Can you point to a single scientific climate organization that backs your desperate opinion that Earth is not the stable center of the Universe and is suspended in the heavens on the backs of many turtles?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiastic about this. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore..." Ottmar IPCC 2010

 

[Lastamender]

It's raining and there are hail and tornado warnings in my area. I think I'll stay right here.

Can't do a thing to stop the weather.

 

[Crick]

Can't do a thing to stop the weather.

We already have, though it took 150 years of unchecked action on our parts.

 

[Lastamender]

We already have, though it took 150 years of unchecked action on our parts.

Sorry, that is just total bullshit.

 

[Crick]

Sorry, that is just total bullshit.

What do you believe caused this?

Global Temperature Report for 2020 - Berkeley Earth

2020 was nominally the second warmest year on Earth since 1850. It was slightly colder than 2016 but warmer than every other measured year.

berkeleyearth.org

 

[ding]

What do you believe caused this?

Global Temperature Report for 2020 - Berkeley Earth

2020 was nominally the second warmest year on Earth since 1850. It was slightly colder than 2016 but warmer than every other measured year.

berkeleyearth.org

Natural climate variations of a bipolar glaciated planet. The geologic record is filthy with them. Why do you believe the planet’s temperature should be a flat line?

 

[Lastamender]

OOPS

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What do you believe caused this?

Global Temperature Report for 2020 - Berkeley Earth

2020 was nominally the second warmest year on Earth since 1850. It was slightly colder than 2016 but warmer than every other measured year.

berkeleyearth.org

Bernie Madoff's accountant

 

[otto105]

Can you point to a single scientific climate organization that backs your desperate opinion that Earth is not the stable center of the Universe and is suspended in the heavens on the backs of many turtles?

Why is no scientific organization willing to back your denial opinion?

 

[Mac-7]

An update on the 2009 report on the locations of temperature measuring stations in the U.S.........where you have temperature readers located next to heat vents.....and other silly things that make the data worthless...

The article mentioning the report is from Breitbart, and I also linked to the report they linked to...........

https://www.heartland.org/_template-assets/documents/publications/2022_Surface_Station_Report.pdf

Garbage In, Garbage Out: 96% of NOAA Temperature Stations Fail 'Uncorrupted Placement' Standards

A study found that 96% of heat measurement around the U.S. fail to meet NOAA's own “uncorrupted placement” standards.

www.breitbart.com

A study that investigated the placement of National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) temperature stations foundthat 96 percent of the facilities used to measure heat failed to meet the agencies own “uncorrupted placement” standards.

Research for the study shows that the 96 percent corruption is because thestations’ measurements are tainted by the effects of urbanization – or heat produced because of their close proximity to asphalt, machinery, and other heat-producing, heat-trapping, or heat-accentuating objects.

The Heartland Institute compiled the report using satellite and in-person surveys of NOAA weather stations that contribute to the “official” land temperatures in the United States.

“With a 96 percent warm-bias in U.S. temperature measurements, it is impossible to use any statistical methods to derive an accurate climate trend for the U.S.” Heartland Institute Senior Fellow Anthony Watts, who directed the study, said is the study announcement distributed to the press. “Data from the stations that have not been corrupted by faulty placement show a rate of warming in the United States reduced by almost half compared to all stations.”
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From the actual report...

2022 SURFACE STATIONS SURVEY: EXAMPLES OF SITING ISSUES, GOOD AND BAD

This section presents photographic examples of USHCN and GHCN station siting. The majority of stations are not in compliance with NWS publication 10-1302, but examples of those in compliance are also given. Station locations, observed issues, and explanations are given in the image captions.
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MMTS placement in COOP observer’s yard next to an ODOT maintenance facility in Basque, OR. Note the very large asphalt parking lot in the aerial photo and the yellow marker indicating the MMTS placement. Basque is an isolated small town, with the next town 30 miles away. It would be categorized as exceptionally rural, yet the GHCN thermometer is placed directly next to the largest heat sink. Source: Anthony Watts, Google Earth.

Bummer

Libs were hoping we had forgotten about their lies

 

[otto105]

KInd of like when every scientist told Galileo that he was wrong..........alll of the science organizations in his time told him the sun revolved around the earth........

Which scientists told Galileo that he was wrong?

The ones told by the church.

 

[otto105]

You have no logical reason to believe anyone who have never had one climate prediction come true.

We have every logical reason to believe in climate modeling predictions.

Fact check: 2001 climate change statement misrepresented to disparage climate models


And every reason to believe that you will just keep your head up your ass.

 

[otto105]

Bummer

Libs were hoping we had forgotten about their lies

This just in!!!

Climate deniers complaining about temperature recording stations not being placed in cool dark places.