Teen pregnancy rate up after 10-year decline

[Samson]

"Cute?"

In what context?

I sure as hell don't think they are cute, I will be the first to admit I am terrible at them. Everything else I have mastered, just not hand jobs.

Maybe you've just had tough audiences.

A lota guys don't appreciate the athleticism associated with the hand-job.

IMHO it should be an Olympic Sport.

 

[Coyote]

I don't know, but I'm certain that if they don't I could qualify for a $1 million Government Grant to study The Efficacy of Kinky Kondoms in Planned Parenthood.

....with or without....attachments?

I've always subscribed to the philosophy: "The More, the Merrier."

It's the Hamster Porn isn't it? I knew Hammy was going to get you in trouble sooner or later....

 

[JenT]

You really are insane, aren't you?

Tell me again how adoptive children are made fun of, and women should never be Police Officers?

Does telling me I"m insane because you disagree with me make you feel better? Are you that weak?

Adopted kids? Words along the lines of "Even your own mom gave you away..." He told me he got some of that, kids will try to go after kids for anything.

Police officers? Were we talking about police officers in this thread? I missed it

Yeah! It does, and I am not weak. But according to you most women are, so reality you must think you are weak. Your arguement that Planned Parenthood can brain wash us, and that women should not serve in the service because you feel a man does that job better. Well you just pretty much prove that you think all women are weak.
And I have two adopted brothers, neither one of them was made fun of for being adopted.

Honey, if you are stronger than most men that I know...more power to ya. But if a MAN breaks into my house and I call for help and you show up, then step aside, I look good aiming a 9mm too.

And when I work out at a gym and I see bodybuilding women that can't lift as much as men that look wirey, it pretty much displays that inch for inch of muscle, men have the brute strength. It's a fact of life and all the steroids and pumping iron ain't gonna change it.

So do I think all women are weak? Physically weaker than men? Why yes I do.

And Planned Parenthood DOES brainwash young women, except it's more like brainpollute. High school girls are still impressionable.

As for your adopted brothers, I'm glad they weren't taunted. Maybe everyone knew they had such a strong sister, they didn't dare.

 

[JenT]

Abortions are a thing of personal responsibility. Most women are not heartless beings and having a abortion does have an effect on them that they will likely carry for the rest of their lives. If they want to do that, it's their choice.

What's sad about this is, in today's culture, so many of those getting pregnant are just kids who are just starting to do things independently without holding mom's hand. They find themselves facing some of the toughest choices of their lives and standing next to them is orgs like Planned Parenthood telling us that it's just a blob of cells. This is hitting them at an awfully young age and not used to taking on huge responsibility and are concerned about telling mom and/or dad who might just surprise them and not freak out and actually support whatever choice they make. Most parents realize their teens are facing issues that are extremely difficult. We want our kids to abstain but know in today's culture and media encouragement, it's very unlikely that they're successful. I wouldn't be happy about having such an early grandchild but I sure wouldn't hit the roof and scream at my son like he might think.

So kids are choosing to listen to Planned Parenthood who are NOT telling them they may regret it for the rest of their lives. Not when I was in that seat anyway. All I ever saw was smiles, winks and a "welcome to womanhood' as though abortion tables were par for the course.

I got a kid that should have been there to argue with her, wouldn't that have been cool...

I call bullshit on your Planned Parenthood story, I have seen two abortion performed and I have a few friends who had had an abortion and their experience was nothing like what you described. So maybe you should do what you think Planned Parenthood should do, and stop spreading lies.

I'm just tellin you how it was in California when I went through it. You can call out to fecal matter of cattle all you want but it doesn't change a thing.

 

[chanel]

Here is the link to Planned Parenthood's Teen Talk. Some schools use this site as part of their sex ed program. Today"s word of the day is - HAND JOB. Isn't that cute?

Teen Talk - Planned Parenthood
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I guess we could stick our heads in the sand in regards to what teenagers are doing. Most teenage girls use Planned Parenthood for birth control purposes or STD testing, why not have them in the discussion? For one while the parents stick their hands in the sand, Planned Parenthood is the one helping prevent their daughter from getting pregnant.

Luissa- I am not the link police, but as I stated earlier, there is no proof that Planned Parenthood's sex ed programs are any more or less effective than abstinence education. If you can provide evidence to the contrary, I would keep an open mind.

And I suggest that everyone take a look at that link. There is good information and there is some really kinky stuff. Unless you think that kids urinating on each other is healthy.

 

[JenT]

So kids are choosing to listen to Planned Parenthood who are NOT telling them they may regret it for the rest of their lives. Not when I was in that seat anyway. All I ever saw was smiles, winks and a "welcome to womanhood' as though abortion tables were par for the course.

Baloney.

From what I know, they are a compassionate dedicated group of people who take the time to listen and help a woman decide the best course of actions.

There were no smiles, winks, or anything remotely like "welcome to womanhood".

Oh yeah, real compassionate as they use those utinsels to shred an unborn baby to pieces....

 

[Coyote]

What's sad about this is, in today's culture, so many of those getting pregnant are just kids who are just starting to do things independently without holding mom's hand. They find themselves facing some of the toughest choices of their lives and standing next to them is orgs like Planned Parenthood telling us that it's just a blob of cells. This is hitting them at an awfully young age and not used to taking on huge responsibility and are concerned about telling mom and/or dad who might just surprise them and not freak out and actually support whatever choice they make. Most parents realize their teens are facing issues that are extremely difficult. We want our kids to abstain but know in today's culture and media encouragement, it's very unlikely that they're successful. I wouldn't be happy about having such an early grandchild but I sure wouldn't hit the roof and scream at my son like he might think.

So kids are choosing to listen to Planned Parenthood who are NOT telling them they may regret it for the rest of their lives. Not when I was in that seat anyway. All I ever saw was smiles, winks and a "welcome to womanhood' as though abortion tables were par for the course.

I got a kid that should have been there to argue with her, wouldn't that have been cool...

I call bullshit on your Planned Parenthood story, I have seen two abortion performed and I have a few friends who had had an abortion and their experience was nothing like what you described. So maybe you should do what you think Planned Parenthood should do, and stop spreading lies.

I'm just tellin you how it was in California when I went through it. You can call out to fecal matter of cattle all you want but it doesn't change a thing.

What doesn't change is that it's your opinion of what you saw through what seems like a very partisan lense and it doesn't match what others have observed or experienced.

Do you really think most of the women who find themselves in the position of having an abortion do so as caveliarly as cutting their toenails? That the people who staff these clinics aren't trained professionals and maybe some of whom have walked in those shoes? I'm sure it makes the cause easier if you can somehow demonize these people into uncaring chop shops.

Honestly. What you say sounds straight out of the anti-abortion playbook.

 

[Coyote]

So kids are choosing to listen to Planned Parenthood who are NOT telling them they may regret it for the rest of their lives. Not when I was in that seat anyway. All I ever saw was smiles, winks and a "welcome to womanhood' as though abortion tables were par for the course.

Baloney.

From what I know, they are a compassionate dedicated group of people who take the time to listen and help a woman decide the best course of actions.

There were no smiles, winks, or anything remotely like "welcome to womanhood".

Oh yeah, real compassionate as they use those utinsels to shred an unborn baby to pieces....

There are two lives involved and conflicting sets of rights. Who gives you the right to pass judgement on others?

 

[Sinatra]

Obama is personally responsible for the rise in teen preggers...

 

[uscitizen]

NOt Tiger?

 

[JenT]

I call bullshit on your Planned Parenthood story, I have seen two abortion performed and I have a few friends who had had an abortion and their experience was nothing like what you described. So maybe you should do what you think Planned Parenthood should do, and stop spreading lies.

I'm just tellin you how it was in California when I went through it. You can call out to fecal matter of cattle all you want but it doesn't change a thing.

What doesn't change is that it's your opinion of what you saw through what seems like a very partisan lense and it doesn't match what others have observed or experienced.

Do you really think most of the women who find themselves in the position of having an abortion do so as caveliarly as cutting their toenails? That the people who staff these clinics aren't trained professionals and maybe some of whom have walked in those shoes? I'm sure it makes the cause easier if you can somehow demonize these people into uncaring chop shops.

Honestly. What you say sounds straight out of the anti-abortion playbook.

ever read this?

Fetal profits promoting partial-birth abortions?

my issue isn't with people that have had abortions, it's with the politicians that want to promote it worldwide and paint a happy face on it.

 

[AllieBaba]

And let's not forget the clinics who want to come into our schools, teach underage kids about the availability of abortion, yet refuse to provide statistics on who is aborting, the age of the babies being killed, or report underage pregnancies to the authorities so the assholes who are getting these girls pregnant can be prosecuted.

In other words, they've got a nice little slavery ring going.

 

[rdean]

It is not like they tell you to go speak to someone at a Crisis Pregnancy Center for a "second opinion".

They fully expect you to come back for your next appointment and eliminate the "problem".

Thanks for cutting me some slack... I need it tonight.

Immie

YOu do realize that the majority of people who go to Planned Parenthood are not there to get an abortion? They also provide counceling for girls/women who have become pregnant and plan on keeping their child. Like I said before, you should maybe check the place out before you start assuming what goes on there.

They also hand out birth control pills like candy, introducing a whole host of health problems to those taking those pills. And I know those places, I went through them, held a couple of friends' hands as they waited to be called into the room for their abortions too.

We didn't know any better. Abortions are common and so are the tears of the barren women today.

Hand out birth control like candy? If you allow a place like that to exist, watch it and do nothing, then you are part of of the problem.

My experience tells me that right wingers who tell those stories are usually lying. They live in the land of "Either/Or" right next to the "Absolute Evil" ocean, which surrounds the land of "Absolute Good". Their little minds are filled with "absolutes".

A responsible clinic teaches that "abstinence only" is the ONLY way to guarantee no pregnancy and no disease. But, if you are going to have sex, this is what you need to know. Then they talk about different methods of birth control and the probability of STD's and how to avoid both pregnancy and STDs.

No one has "abortion parties". If a woman ends up needing an abortion, if she is attended to by a reguar phycision, then the chances of her ending up barren are slim.

There is a name for unwanted children. It's "abused". If a kid grows up in poverty and it isn't wanted, it's life may be a misery.

In the happy land of Republican enchantment, every unwanted child will be adoted and taken care of. The sad reality is you have Republican leaders calling poor people "stray animals" and saying, "If you keep feeding them, they will keep breeding.

 

[Political Junky]

And let's not forget the clinics who want to come into our schools, teach underage kids about the availability of abortion, yet refuse to provide statistics on who is aborting, the age of the babies being killed, or report underage pregnancies to the authorities so the assholes who are getting these girls pregnant can be prosecuted.

In other words, they've got a nice little slavery ring going.

Please show us one instance of underage children being taught about how to get an abortion.

 

[JenT]

And let's not forget the clinics who want to come into our schools, teach underage kids about the availability of abortion, yet refuse to provide statistics on who is aborting, the age of the babies being killed, or report underage pregnancies to the authorities so the assholes who are getting these girls pregnant can be prosecuted.

In other words, they've got a nice little slavery ring going.

Please show us one instance of underage children being taught about how to get an abortion.

Are you kidding? Parents in California have been trying to get legislation passed to make it illegal to help our kids get abortions without parental knowledge. We have to fill out 15 forms if we want them to have an aspirin at school but the school can help them get an operation/abortion off site...its unfreaking believable

so is this

lifeissues | Baby body parts for sale

and I"m outta time

 

[Political Junky]

And let's not forget the clinics who want to come into our schools, teach underage kids about the availability of abortion, yet refuse to provide statistics on who is aborting, the age of the babies being killed, or report underage pregnancies to the authorities so the assholes who are getting these girls pregnant can be prosecuted.

In other words, they've got a nice little slavery ring going.

Please show us one instance of underage children being taught about how to get an abortion.

Are you kidding? Parents in California have been trying to get legislation passed to make it illegal to help our kids get abortions without parental knowledge. We have to fill out 15 forms if we want them to have an aspirin at school but the school can help them get an operation/abortion off site...its unfreaking believable

so is this

lifeissues | Baby body parts for sale

and I"m outta time

"Under age kids" sounds like pre-schoolers to me.

 

[AllieBaba]

And let's not forget the clinics who want to come into our schools, teach underage kids about the availability of abortion, yet refuse to provide statistics on who is aborting, the age of the babies being killed, or report underage pregnancies to the authorities so the assholes who are getting these girls pregnant can be prosecuted.

In other words, they've got a nice little slavery ring going.

Please show us one instance of underage children being taught about how to get an abortion.

Are you kidding? Parents in California have been trying to get legislation passed to make it illegal to help our kids get abortions without parental knowledge. We have to fill out 15 forms if we want them to have an aspirin at school but the school can help them get an operation/abortion off site...its unfreaking believable

so is this

lifeissues | Baby body parts for sale

and I"m outta time

Walk into a family planning clinic and see how fast they show kids where the abortion clinics are located.

 

[Coyote]

The whole issue of contraceptives, abortions and underage kids is complex.

People have historically had sexual relations at ages we consider to be "children" or underage. The age of marriage has been as young as 12 in some societies. I'm not advocating this - but the facts say a lot about us, sexual maturity and biology. Kids as young as 15, 16, etc are mentally/psychologically/phsyically not adults but they are biologically mature enough to reproduce. We owe them the truth (ie not abstinence only) while still trying to protect them. But what if protecting them means giving them a safe outlet to talk about a possible pregnancy and what to do? Should the parents always be notified? And...what is the cut off in regards to age?

 

[chanel]

18. As JenT said, they cannot be given an aspirin at school without parental consent. Information is important but some of this "info" is clearly propaganda. Planned Parenthood is a very lucrative business. Promoting under-age sex means more contraceptives, more abortions, and more STD testing. Interesting article here:

An American business 'success' story

 

[Immanuel]

I will say it for a third time now, and I will cut you some slack because you are drinking. They do not just make an appointment and tell them to think about it, you have to go through counceling, first when you come in to take the pregnancy test and tell them your decision, and either the appointment where they give you the ultra sound, or the day you have the abortion. They also don't give you any pain killers, they only give you antibiotics and send you home with a prescription for birth control, what you need to do if you conditions worsen, and numbers for councelors. They don't take it lightly, and one should really maybe see what they do before judging them.

It is not like they tell you to go speak to someone at a Crisis Pregnancy Center for a "second opinion".

They fully expect you to come back for your next appointment and eliminate the "problem".

Thanks for cutting me some slack... I need it tonight.

Immie

YOu do realize that the majority of people who go to Planned Parenthood are not there to get an abortion? They also provide counceling for girls/women who have become pregnant and plan on keeping their child. Like I said before, you should maybe check the place out before you start assuming what goes on there.

Oh, absolutely I realize that and I have checked them out. I still am no fan of the organization. Although, I do like the idea that they offer things like free mammograms and health screenings, which of course, is well funded by the abortion services they provide.

Once again, they don't send the ladies away because they expect them not to come back. They send them to their own counselors who support the "woman's right to choose" and encourage them to end this crisis... there will be other opportunities if the mother chooses.

Immie