Ted Kennedy Secretly Asked The Soviets To Intervene In 1984 Elections - So where's the fake outrage?

[hadit]

Ted Kennedy Secretly Asked The Soviets To Intervene In 1984 Elections
thefederalist.com/.../ted-kennedy-secretly-asked-the-soviets-to-intervene-in-the-1984-...
Mar 10, 2015 - Did 47 Republican Senators just commit treason with Iran letter? ... should consult liberal lion Ted Kennedy, who not only allegedly sent ... Edward Kennedy's close friend and trusted confidant [John] Tunney was in Moscow.

1984? So what? Comrade Trump is openly committing TREASON.

How so? He asking Russia to hand over the emails if they got them. You say there is no top secret information in them. So why are you worried?

It would be interesting to see how far Hillary would go to persuade Putin to not release what he has, assuming he has anything.

 

[jknowgood]

Ted Kennedy Secretly Asked The Soviets To Intervene In 1984 Elections
thefederalist.com/.../ted-kennedy-secretly-asked-the-soviets-to-intervene-in-the-1984-...
Mar 10, 2015 - Did 47 Republican Senators just commit treason with Iran letter? ... should consult liberal lion Ted Kennedy, who not only allegedly sent ... Edward Kennedy's close friend and trusted confidant [John] Tunney was in Moscow.

1984? So what? Comrade Trump is openly committing TREASON.

How so? He asking Russia to hand over the emails if they got them. You say there is no top secret information in them. So why are you worried?

It would be interesting to see how far Hillary would go to persuade Putin to not release what he has, assuming he has anything.

She send huma to him to service him.

 

[hadit]

Ted Kennedy Secretly Asked The Soviets To Intervene In 1984 Elections
thefederalist.com/.../ted-kennedy-secretly-asked-the-soviets-to-intervene-in-the-1984-...
Mar 10, 2015 - Did 47 Republican Senators just commit treason with Iran letter? ... should consult liberal lion Ted Kennedy, who not only allegedly sent ... Edward Kennedy's close friend and trusted confidant [John] Tunney was in Moscow.

1984? So what? Comrade Trump is openly committing TREASON.

Prove it or shut up. Hillary's private server didn't *cough* have any classified information on it right? Isn't that what you've been blabbering on about?

I quite frankly don't understand why the Hillary sycophants don't grasp this. Maybe they're just so narrowly focused on repeating exactly what comes out of the fax machine that they don't see it, but it is kind of funny watching them remind everybody over and over again about Hillary's latest big scandal. You'd think they'd prefer to make it go away.

Options:

1. Hillary's personal emails had no classified information in them and this is nowhere close to treason. That IS what Trump was talking about, remember?
2. Hillary's personal emails HAD classified information in them and she lied about deleting only personal information.
3. If Russia has Hillary's personal emails, they also have her work emails and her well documented carelessness with classified information has caused real damage to American national security.

How is this more damaging to Trump than to Hillary?

I quite frankly don't understand why dumb Donald apologists are ok but somehow people who vote for a democratic candidate are "sycophants". you probably should stop projecting.

democrat voters are not Hillary sycophants, they're just misled. Hillary sycophants are, for example, the posters who glom onto democrat talking points and regurgitate them over and over again, ignoring how foolish they look when the points are debunked. They are the ones who took Hillary's changing positions on the emails to heart and thoroughly believed every new iteration of what she claimed was the truth.

"I had no classified information on my server."
-uhh, yes you did-
"I had no information that was marked classified at the time on my server."

And on it goes. The critical thinker looks at that progression of statements and concludes that the speaker is lying. The sycophant doesn't see the progression, only the last one, and defends it to the death as if it is gospel truth.

 

[Coyote]

Ted Kennedy Secretly Asked The Soviets To Intervene In 1984 Elections
thefederalist.com/.../ted-kennedy-secretly-asked-the-soviets-to-intervene-in-the-1984-...
Mar 10, 2015 - Did 47 Republican Senators just commit treason with Iran letter? ... should consult liberal lion Ted Kennedy, who not only allegedly sent ... Edward Kennedy's close friend and trusted confidant [John] Tunney was in Moscow.

So you had to go back over 30 years? Shouldn't you just be outraged that foreign powers are deliberately attempting to influence our elections through sponsoring illegal hacking activities?

 

[The Irish Ram]

I think the outrage you're looking for is in 1984

I think you Dems need a Thesaurus. OUTRAGE!! SCARED TO DEATH!! FURIOUS!! RACIST!!! PHOBES!!! are not synonyms for opinion.
You're so melodramatic, sensational, histrionic, theatrical, tragicomic....

 

[Seawytch]

And Nixon asked the Chinese and Vietnamese to intervene in the 1968 elections.

It was just as outrageous then as Trump's bullshit now.

So Trump makes a smart ass comment about Hillary's personal emails and NOW you have him asking Putin to intervene in the election?



That's jumping the freaking shark right there.

So Trump actively invites a foreign power to commit espionage and then plays it off as a "joke" after the backlash becomes severe. That's where your jumping fish are.

If Hillary had made a "joke" like that, Fox would be calling for her to step down.




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[bendog]

I think the outrage you're looking for is in 1984

I think you Dems need a Thesaurus. OUTRAGE!! SCARED TO DEATH!! FURIOUS!! RACIST!!! PHOBES!!! are not synonyms for opinion.
You're so melodramatic, sensational, histrionic, theatrical, tragicomic....

Huuuuuuge

 

[Seawytch]

Since we're in the "way back" machine, Trump should ask his **** buddy, Putin, for the 22 MILLION emails the Bush admin deleted.


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[LaDexter]

When Gorbachev's USSR ran out of cash, Harvard had an ivy league suggestion - have the US taxpayer bail them out, since helping communism succeed is what is taught in 'vard classes...

 

[The Irish Ram]

Ted Kennedy Secretly Asked The Soviets To Intervene In 1984 Elections
thefederalist.com/.../ted-kennedy-secretly-asked-the-soviets-to-intervene-in-the-1984-...
Mar 10, 2015 - Did 47 Republican Senators just commit treason with Iran letter? ... should consult liberal lion Ted Kennedy, who not only allegedly sent ... Edward Kennedy's close friend and trusted confidant [John] Tunney was in Moscow.

So you had to go back over 30 years? Shouldn't you just be outraged that foreign powers are deliberately attempting to influence our elections through sponsoring illegal hacking activities?

And even MORE OUTRAGED when you learn that Obama spent our money and sent his agitators to Israel to keep Netanyahu from being elected. And even MORE OUTRAGED when Obomb/Clinton overthrew the government of Egypt, an ally of ours, who was just sitting around doing nothing, and set up radical Muslim Brotherhood to take over. That went well. And then killing the head of the Libya, who was just sitting around doing nothing, and then even more OUTRAGED to learn that Obama/Clinton bore ISIS to overthrow Syria? Outrageous, right?
Black Muslim Billary wants to bring that shit here. Let's be outraged enough to tell her, "NO, you've done enough damage."

 

[tinydancer]

Since when did Two Wrongs Make a Right stop being a logical Fallacy?

I'm not really convinced Ted did anything horrible. He didn't sell secrets. He may have run a shadow diplomatic mission, but according to the documents, he basically offered to meet and facilitate arms negotiations with the Soviets. That would probably have enhanced his own ability if he'd run against Reagan in 84. Of course Reagan himself had affected the 1980 election with the Iranians.

The question with Trump is very simple. Was his son Eric being truthful when he said a greater % of investment income into their ventures came from Russia than came from other places? And if so, does that give Trump a motive to sell out Ukraine and Georgia and the Baltics?

Trump is a business man. I couldn't give a flying rats ass if he did business in Russia. Russia up till Obama and the EU backed the coup in the Ukraine and got called out for their dirty deeds was part of the G8 and had been for years.
Trump is doing nothing illegal.

Now Hillary on the other hand as Secretary of State facilitated a uranium deal with one of her Russian mega donors to her charity. I've put up her connections to all the Ukrainian oligarchs especially Pinchuk who has donated millions to the Clintons and benefited from the overthrow of a legally elected Ukrainian government.

You seem to prefer to ignore her links to all her shady donors.

Reagan affected the election in 1980 with the Iranians? Are you kidding? I'd say Carter affected his re-election with the Iranians. Not freaking Reagan.

As to what Teddy "the swimmer" Kennedy did over the election whoa geeze the letter he wrote to sabotage Reagan was highly suspect. if not absolutely treasonous. He blatantly asked the Soviets for help in defeating Reagan.

But you have no problem with Kennedy either. Just Trump. For being a smart ass.

“On 9-10 May of this year,” the May 14 memorandum explained, “Sen. Edward Kennedy’s close friend and trusted confidant [John] Tunney was in Moscow.” (Tunney was Kennedy’s law school roommate and a former Democratic senator from California.) “The senator charged Tunney to convey the following message, through confidential contacts, to the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, Y. Andropov.”

Kennedy’s message was simple.

He proposed an unabashed quid pro quo. Kennedy would lend Andropov a hand in dealing with President Reagan. In return, the Soviet leader would lend the Democratic Party a hand in challenging Reagan in the 1984 presidential election. “The only real potential threats to Reagan are problems of war and peace and Soviet-American relations,” the memorandum stated. “These issues, according to the senator, will without a doubt become the most important of the election campaign.”

This is open, self-initiated collaboration with a rival power, and there’s a name for that sort of thing, “treason.” But that word is not associated with any Kennedy (at least not since Joe was Ambassador to the UK) because of the studious ignoring of the story coming from the Soviet archives."

Blog: Remember when Ted Kennedy asked the Soviets for help defeating Reagan?

 

[tinydancer]

Ted Kennedy Secretly Asked The Soviets To Intervene In 1984 Elections
thefederalist.com/.../ted-kennedy-secretly-asked-the-soviets-to-intervene-in-the-1984-...
Mar 10, 2015 - Did 47 Republican Senators just commit treason with Iran letter? ... should consult liberal lion Ted Kennedy, who not only allegedly sent ... Edward Kennedy's close friend and trusted confidant [John] Tunney was in Moscow.

So you had to go back over 30 years? Shouldn't you just be outraged that foreign powers are deliberately attempting to influence our elections through sponsoring illegal hacking activities?

Kennedy did invite the USSR to assist the D Party to take out Reagan. This is fact.

Now. Prove Trump has anything to do with the leaks. Prove that Putin sponsored the hacking. Not kidding. Enough of this bullshit because it's all hot air.

Even Hillary's campaign manager said they believed it was Russia because they saw it on freaking CNN. Give me a break.

And how do you tie Trump to the DNC leaks? I can'[t wait till someone comes up with evidence.

Up till then this is all over the top bullshit.

Oh and foreign powers have been donating to Hillary for forever.

ETA: going to put up a thread about another Clinton scandal that is now very current and very real.

Everybody has a lot of nerve bitching about Trump and being so hypocritical about D corruption.