Tea Party and Sympathizers, Please Read

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Excellent piece. a bit of genuine History.

"...Few paid attention, but they got to the truth. And they were Socialists fighting the Nazis, you might recall. Listen up, T.P.ers: The Nazis were not Socialists. The Socialists were not Nazis. They were blood enemies. In fact, the Socialists fought the Nazis, while conservatives and nationalists stood by and thought Hitler would be their pawn. Hitler, need it be said, was not a Socialist. He hated the Socialists. Had thousands of them murdered as soon as he came to power...."

'The Tea Party's Toxic Take on History, Ignore it at your peril.'

By Ron Rosenbaum

"Most people with a basic grounding in history find Tea Party ignorance something to laugh about, certainly not something to take seriously. But I would argue that history demonstrates that historical ignorance is dangerous and that it can have tragic consequences, however laughable it may initially seem. And thus the media, liberals, and others are misguided in laughing it off. And educated conservatives are irresponsible in staying silent in the face of these distortions.

The muddled Tea Party version of history is more than wrong and fraudulent. It's offensive. Calling Obama a tyrant, a communist, or a fascist is deeply offensive to all the real victims of tyranny, the real victims of communism and fascism. The tens of millions murdered. It trivializes such suffering inexcusably for the T.P.ers to claim that they are suffering from similar oppression because they might have their taxes raised or be subject to demonic "federal regulation.""

Don't ignore the Tea Party's toxic take on history. - By Ron Rosenbaum - Slate Magazine

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006095339X?ie=UTF8]Amazon.com: Explaining Hitler: The Search for the Origins of His Evil (9780060953393): Ron Rosenbaum: Books[/ame]
 

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Do you really expect Tea Baggers to have a clue what a Socialist is?

Let alone a Nazi?
 

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Excellent piece. a bit of genuine History.

"...Few paid attention, but they got to the truth. And they were Socialists fighting the Nazis, you might recall. Listen up, T.P.ers: The Nazis were not Socialists. The Socialists were not Nazis. They were blood enemies. In fact, the Socialists fought the Nazis, while conservatives and nationalists stood by and thought Hitler would be their pawn. Hitler, need it be said, was not a Socialist. He hated the Socialists. Had thousands of them murdered as soon as he came to power...."

'The Tea Party's Toxic Take on History, Ignore it at your peril.'

By Ron Rosenbaum

"Most people with a basic grounding in history find Tea Party ignorance something to laugh about, certainly not something to take seriously. But I would argue that history demonstrates that historical ignorance is dangerous and that it can have tragic consequences, however laughable it may initially seem. And thus the media, liberals, and others are misguided in laughing it off. And educated conservatives are irresponsible in staying silent in the face of these distortions.

The muddled Tea Party version of history is more than wrong and fraudulent. It's offensive. Calling Obama a tyrant, a communist, or a fascist is deeply offensive to all the real victims of tyranny, the real victims of communism and fascism. The tens of millions murdered. It trivializes such suffering inexcusably for the T.P.ers to claim that they are suffering from similar oppression because they might have their taxes raised or be subject to demonic "federal regulation.""

Don't ignore the Tea Party's toxic take on history. - By Ron Rosenbaum - Slate Magazine

Amazon.com: Explaining Hitler: The Search for the Origins of His Evil (9780060953393): Ron Rosenbaum: Books
Oh good another bit of propaganda we can wipe our azzes on... Thanks. THere is an author who wrote a book comparing nazi's to tea-partiers? And this is news or even a surprise?

Well I bet we can find books likening modern day progressives to the Bolsheviks if we looked hard enough. Does it make any of it true or factual? No just propaganda...
 

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history is now propaganda to the right.

Science = bad

History = bad

what next ?
 

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Excellent piece. a bit of genuine History.

"...Few paid attention, but they got to the truth. And they were Socialists fighting the Nazis, you might recall. Listen up, T.P.ers: The Nazis were not Socialists. The Socialists were not Nazis. They were blood enemies. In fact, the Socialists fought the Nazis, while conservatives and nationalists stood by and thought Hitler would be their pawn. Hitler, need it be said, was not a Socialist. He hated the Socialists. Had thousands of them murdered as soon as he came to power...."

'The Tea Party's Toxic Take on History, Ignore it at your peril.'

By Ron Rosenbaum

"Most people with a basic grounding in history find Tea Party ignorance something to laugh about, certainly not something to take seriously. But I would argue that history demonstrates that historical ignorance is dangerous and that it can have tragic consequences, however laughable it may initially seem. And thus the media, liberals, and others are misguided in laughing it off. And educated conservatives are irresponsible in staying silent in the face of these distortions.

The muddled Tea Party version of history is more than wrong and fraudulent. It's offensive. Calling Obama a tyrant, a communist, or a fascist is deeply offensive to all the real victims of tyranny, the real victims of communism and fascism. The tens of millions murdered. It trivializes such suffering inexcusably for the T.P.ers to claim that they are suffering from similar oppression because they might have their taxes raised or be subject to demonic "federal regulation.""

Don't ignore the Tea Party's toxic take on history. - By Ron Rosenbaum - Slate Magazine

Amazon.com: Explaining Hitler: The Search for the Origins of His Evil (9780060953393): Ron Rosenbaum: Books

LMAO reading this peice of drivel.

Guy should go out and get a real job. Not masquerade as a jornalist or author. What a joke. LOL Jeeze.
 

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as an aside, if it has tea party in the title, what sub forum would be the most likely place to put it?

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history is now propaganda to the right.

Science = bad

History = bad

what next ?
What's next? Hmmmm....

Idiots = bad.

Liar = bad.

Obama = Socialism. :lol::lol::lol:

European socialism.... not the tyrannical socialism of history but the 'new socialism'.... the 'social justice' where success is a bad thing and standing on your own feet without the need for government to 'help' is a bad thing.
 
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"Even Fox News recognizes Tea Party dogma as a seething cauldron of deranged and vicious lies about history. Look at the guy in the photo in this report and how proud he is of his illiterate swastika sign."

An interesting piece of writing and all you get from the wingnuts on usmb is the same ignorance the piece examines. History repeats itself too quickly, or is stupidity consigned to just a few negative words after which emptiness fills the void?


Books noted in article. Anyone read Solzhenitsyn, years ago I read most his work, powerful stuff.

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0767900561?ie=UTF8]Amazon.com: Gulag: A History (9780767900560): Anne Applebaum: Books[/ame]

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0195071328?ie=UTF8]Amazon.com: The Great Terror: A Reassessment (9780195071320): Robert Conquest: Books[/ame]


If an article starts with examples of the improper use of Nazis and their ideas and symbolism, then it cannot be accused of Godwin's law. Midcan's Law
 

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history is now propaganda to the right.

Science = bad

History = bad

what next ?
What's next? Hmmmm....

Idiots = bad.

Liar = bad.

Obama = Socialism. :lol::lol::lol:

European socialism.... not the tyrannical socialism of history but the 'new socialism'.... the 'social justice' where success is a bad thing and standing on your own feet without the need for government to 'help' is a bad thing.
The message is: Tea Partiers believe that Obama is a communist, a tyrant, a socialist, and a Nazi, THEY are really dumb because they don't even know what those beliefs really are, nor who holds them (certainly not Obama).
Don't be guilty of historical ignorance because it is dangerous and can have tragic consequences, however laughable it may initially seem.

I've been to three Tea Party events, saw all ages of folks there, very very few holding signs making anything like the aforementioned claims. More than anything else they (and I) were there because of a sense of duty and responsiblity, not particularly enjoying having to be a part of any kind of a group, but finding the common cause more pressing than everyday minutia.

The left realizes that is the real profile of those who attend, and they see their fealty as being fragile; fragile enough that they will bow out rather than be seen as weak-headed dangerous freaks. That's why they create that very stereotypical caricature.
 
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The muddled Tea Party version of history is more than wrong and fraudulent. It's offensive. Calling Obama a tyrant, a communist, or a fascist is deeply offensive to all the real victims of tyranny, the real victims of communism and fascism.

Awwwwww...........I wonder where the Tea Party ever got the idea to compare Obama to Hitler?:confused:

September 4, 2003 9:45 A.M.

“Bush=Hitler”
The politics of dangerous stupidity.


In the September 2003 issue of Vanity Fair a photo of Richard Perle is placed alongside Joseph Goebbels and the caption asks: "Separated at Birth?"
Dave Lindorff in "Bush and Hitler: The Strategy of Fear," which according to York's article appeared in February on the site Counterpunch.org. "Bush simply is not the orator that Hitler was. But comparisons of the Bush administration's fear-mongering tactics to those practiced so successfully and with such terrible results by Hitler and Goebbels . . . are not at all out of line."
Scholars at Berkeley insist that George Bush shares a psychological profile with Hitler.

An editorial writer for the Kansas City Star invokes Martin Niemoller's "First they came for the Jews…" mantra to decry the alleged excesses of the Patriot Act.

Various Muslim activists are constantly suggesting that they are the Jews of the Nazified America.

Retired Princeton University professor Sheldon Wolin writes of the "inverted totalitarianism" of the Republican party — "a fervently doctrinal party, zealous, ruthless, antidemocratic, and boasting a near majority" —
 

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"Even Fox News recognizes Tea Party dogma as a seething cauldron of deranged and vicious lies about history. Look at the guy in the photo in this report and how proud he is of his illiterate swastika sign."

An interesting piece of writing and all you get from the wingnuts on usmb is the same ignorance the piece examines. History repeats itself too quickly, or is stupidity consigned to just a few negative words after which emptiness fills the void?


Books noted in article. Anyone read Solzhenitsyn, years ago I read most his work, powerful stuff.

Amazon.com: Gulag: A History (9780767900560): Anne Applebaum: Books

Amazon.com: The Great Terror: A Reassessment (9780195071320): Robert Conquest: Books


If an article starts with examples of the improper use of Nazis and their ideas and symbolism, then it cannot be accused of Godwin's law. Midcan's Law
Dude drop the sales attempts in the signature if you want anyone to take you seriously....
 

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The muddled Tea Party version of history is more than wrong and fraudulent. It's offensive. Calling Obama a tyrant, a communist, or a fascist is deeply offensive to all the real victims of tyranny, the real victims of communism and fascism.

Awwwwww...........I wonder where the Tea Party ever got the idea to compare Obama to Hitler?:confused:

September 4, 2003 9:45 A.M.

“Bush=Hitler”
The politics of dangerous stupidity.


In the September 2003 issue of Vanity Fair a photo of Richard Perle is placed alongside Joseph Goebbels and the caption asks: "Separated at Birth?"
Dave Lindorff in "Bush and Hitler: The Strategy of Fear," which according to York's article appeared in February on the site Counterpunch.org. "Bush simply is not the orator that Hitler was. But comparisons of the Bush administration's fear-mongering tactics to those practiced so successfully and with such terrible results by Hitler and Goebbels . . . are not at all out of line."
Scholars at Berkeley insist that George Bush shares a psychological profile with Hitler.

An editorial writer for the Kansas City Star invokes Martin Niemoller's "First they came for the Jews…" mantra to decry the alleged excesses of the Patriot Act.

Various Muslim activists are constantly suggesting that they are the Jews of the Nazified America.

Retired Princeton University professor Sheldon Wolin writes of the "inverted totalitarianism" of the Republican party — "a fervently doctrinal party, zealous, ruthless, antidemocratic, and boasting a near majority" —
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rycAyA-F9s&feature=related[/ame]
 

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