Tax the Rich? Tax the Millionaires!

[LibocalypseNow]

What's wrong with being Rich? Socialists/Progressives really are such silly & bitter Wankers on this stuff. Maybe if they quit sitting around bitchin & whining about the Rich,they too could be Winners instead of the Losers they are? Most Losers hate Winners. This is just the way it is and always will be. Average whiny Democrats love to sit back mooching off the hard working Taxpayers while screeching about those "Evil" Rich people. Their whining really is boring. It's certainly not new or original.

If you're a loser mooching off the American Taxpayers,you should just STFU and be grateful. And quit bitchin about the "Evil" Rich for God's sake. That shit is just so tired. Don't be mad at others because you're a Loser. You're a Loser because of your own decisions in life. So stop being bitter and just thank American Taxpayers for all the Freebies they provide you Losers with. Because without the Winners,you Losers would be much worse off. Think about that for a bit. Have a nice day.

 

[MitchMan]

Lonestar, are you serious? I answered your question on point, unambiguously, with specificity. You just can't be that thick!

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Lonestar, are you serious? I answered your question on point, unambiguously, with specificity. You just can't be that thick!

I asked for a simple answer to a simple question.

The answer you gave was how much more the rich earn than the poor. But that doesn't answer my question which was, how does the rich harm you or society as a whole.

I make tons more money than those on the government dole, how am I harming them by making more money?

Now if you can't answer in three sentences or less, then don't bother.

I've read enough of you ranting to last a lifetime.

 

[MitchMan]

Hey Libo head, the vast majority of the rich are not bad people, for the greater most part, they are good people, good citizens, and good people. It would be a great mistake to blame everything on the wealthy as a group.

The big mistake is to limit the cause of our economic malaise on the backs of all the wealthy as a group. Only a small portion of the wealthy are at fault for the malaise, and most of them are completely innocent.

The culpubility lies with a much larger group of people that are only partially made up of the rich and wealthy. The culprit is our economic system that has a bias that inequitably and disparately rewards all the wealthy at the top with the wealth produced by the working class that are not wealthy.

I am beginning to think that the only argument you brick heads have at your disposal is to say that every one who doesn't agree wth your views is envious and simply wants a hand out. That's an old, tired argument, and every single right wing concluding argument on all threads even ermotely dealing wth economic issues is to parrots that specious argument.

Your right wing pundits and blowhards have you guys by the short hairs and you are too stupid to know it.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Hey Libo head, the vast majority of the rich are not bad people, for the greater most part, they are good people, good citizens, and good people. It would be a great mistake to blame everything on the wealthy as a group.

The big mistake is to limit the cause of our economic malaise on the backs of all the wealthy as a group. Only a small portion of the wealthy are at fault for the malaise, and most of them are completely innocent.

The culpubility lies with a much larger group of people that are only partially made up of the rich and wealthy. The culprit is our economic system that has a bias that inequitably and disparately rewards all the wealthy at the top with the wealth produced by the working class that are not wealthy.

I am beginning to think that the only argument you brick heads have at your disposal is to say that every one who doesn't agree wth your views is envious and simply wants a hand out. That's an old, tired argument, and every single right wing concluding argument on all threads even ermotely dealing wth economic issues is to parrots that specious argument.

Your right wing pundits and blowhards have you guys by the short hairs and you are too stupid to know it.

Let me get this straight. According to you, only a small portion of the wealthy are at fault for the (economic) malaise, but they're, for the most part, completely innocent. So you conclude it's our ecomomic system that's at fault.

You fail to realize there would be no working class if weren't for the wealthy that created the industries.

In summation, the answer to my question is that the rich does no harm to society as a whole.

Why you didn't just say that to begin with is beyond me.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

People who constantly obsess over how much $$ others make,really are miserable Losers. The Democrats just exploit these miserable Losers. These Losers are just too ignorant to realize they actually need the "Evil" Rich. Who do they think pays for their endless Welfare?...The Welfare Fairy? Without the Winners the Losers would be much worse off. They should actually thank the "Evil" Rich." So if you're constantly obsessing over how much $$ others make,you are a miserable Loser. It is what it is.

 

[MitchMan]

OK, Lonestar, this is going to be the last iteration for you.

First of all, the rich are only a small portion of the key players that do the damage. Got it?

Secondly, the certan few of the rich hurt you and me and the majority of the people in this country with their support (support = money paid to lobbyists, policitcal contributions to certain politicians, verbal support in the public messaging, the stockholder voting patterns (top 10% own 90% of all voting stock in America) that has successfully resulted in the ruinous lopsided concentration of wealth and income at the top that was produced by the vast majority of the working class (which is the vast majority of people in our country.

Thirdly, the harm is that this lopsided concentration of wealth and income at the top means, by its own facts and figures and its very nature, reflect and overwhelmingly indicate that the bottom 50% can't afford to live even at subsistance. That lack of wealth of the bottom directly hurts the bottom 50% big time. It hurts the bottom 60% big time. Get it yet?

Fourthly, the key players with the help of most all of the voting right wingers enable this deleterious biased economic system that hurts most of the population of this country by enable the wealth produced by them, the majorty of the working class, and legally funneling it through into the pockets of the wealthy few, thereby not leaving the working class with the wealth that they (the working class) actually produced and hence, the working class cannot maintain even a subsistance living.

Fifthly, and in summary, the harm is that most of the American people are struggling financially, and the working class is getting poorer by the minute, it hurts demand because most people can't afford to buy necessities and other things and that hurts the economy as a whole and then the country can't produce enough to pay for infrastructure, education, healthcare, defense, the environment, police protection, oversight, research, etc., etc., etc., and that hurts you and me directly. Get it yet?

You know, often reality, situations and circumstances cannot be represented completely in a sound bite nor in one sentence. You are just going to have focus and concentrate so that your brain can assimilate more of the truth and reality in this world. We all know that the right wing mind thrives on talking points, slogans, and one line mantras. They have long been rightfully and justly characterized as being myopic and simplistic. Your mindset is one of the reasons for the criticism.

Did you know that they give PHDs in economics, finance, and accounting. Things and reality and the truth are sometimes complicated. I know that you don't believe that, study a little classic economics and you will see what I mean.

My arguments are big picture arguments. If you are looking for an answer that relates to one person from another person specifically, your perspective is petty, unrealistic, myopic, inconsequential, and irrelevant to the whole.

 

[MikeK]

I don't know about any of you but I have never gotten a job from a poor man. It has always been from a rich person.

There always have been rich people and poor people and there always will be and there is nothing fundamentally wrong with either category. There are some very decent and deserving rich people and I speak for many on the left who have no problem with others being rich because that is a natural and accepted reality of life. However, it is the newly emerging category of super-rich, those who have amassed excessive fortunes by such devious means as hedge fund manipulation, exploitive mortgage banking, usurious money-lending and other formerly illegal schemes who are the problem. What these people have done and are doing to the economy is disruptive and ruinous and was illegal until our corrupted legislators saw fit to alter or remove the controlling regulations.

So don't allow yourself to be indoctrinated by such corporatist propaganda gimmicks as the notion that "jobs come only from the rich." While there is some validity to that it's also quite deceptive because it's not entirely true but mainly because it furtively seeks to imbed the idea that rich is holy and beyond reproach.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Without the Winners,the Losers would have nothing. Welfare isn't free for everyone. Someone has to pay for it. The Losers should actually thank the "Evil" Rich. Who do they think pays for them sitting on their fat arses playing video games and watching TV all day? Something to ponder i guess. Have a nice day.

 

[MitchMan]

Libo, are you in a trance or are you just dumber than dirt?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

OK, Lonestar, this is going to be the last iteration for you.

First of all, the rich are only a small portion of the key players that do the damage. Got it?

Secondly, the certan few of the rich hurt you and me and the majority of the people in this country with their support (support = money paid to lobbyists, policitcal contributions to certain politicians, verbal support in the public messaging, the stockholder voting patterns (top 10% own 90% of all voting stock in America) that has successfully resulted in the ruinous lopsided concentration of wealth and income at the top that was produced by the vast majority of the working class (which is the vast majority of people in our country.

Thirdly, the harm is that this lopsided concentration of wealth and income at the top means, by its own facts and figures and its very nature, reflect and overwhelmingly indicate that the bottom 50% can't afford to live even at subsistance. That lack of wealth of the bottom directly hurts the bottom 50% big time. It hurts the bottom 60% big time. Get it yet?

Fourthly, the key players with the help of most all of the voting right wingers enable this deleterious biased economic system that hurts most of the population of this country by enable the wealth produced by them, the majorty of the working class, and legally funneling it through into the pockets of the wealthy few, thereby not leaving the working class with the wealth that they (the working class) actually produced and hence, the working class cannot maintain even a subsistance living.

Fifthly, and in summary, the harm is that most of the American people are struggling financially, and the working class is getting poorer by the minute, it hurts demand because most people can't afford to buy necessities and other things and that hurts the economy as a whole and then the country can't produce enough to pay for infrastructure, education, healthcare, defense, the environment, police protection, oversight, research, etc., etc., etc., and that hurts you and me directly. Get it yet?

You know, often reality, situations and circumstances cannot be represented completely in a sound bite nor in one sentence. You are just going to have focus and concentrate so that your brain can assimilate more of the truth and reality in this world. We all know that the right wing mind thrives on talking points, slogans, and one line mantras. They have long been rightfully and justly characterized as being myopic and simplistic. Your mindset is one of the reasons for the criticism.

Did you know that they give PHDs in economics, finance, and accounting. Things and reality and the truth are sometimes complicated. I know that you don't believe that, study a little classic economics and you will see what I mean.

My arguments are big picture arguments. If you are looking for an answer that relates to one person from another person specifically, your perspective is petty, unrealistic, myopic, inconsequential, and irrelevant to the whole.

That's the funniest shit I've read in a while.

 

[MitchMan]

The wealthy people are not bad nor evil people as a whole, and, as a whole they are not solely to blame for our economic problems. Their wealth, per se is not the problem, what is the problem is that they wound up with the disproportionate lion's share of the wealth that everybody else, the working class, produced. As a result, there wasn't/isn't enough left in the pockets of the working class to afford a proper life, nor even a subsistance life. It is not that the rich/wealthy "took" it from the working class, it is that our economic system simply works that way, and that is the problem. Get it yet? The wealthy, as a group, are not solely nor entirely to blame. They, as a group, are not evil. Get it yet, you dumbell?

 

[MitchMan]

Lonestar, explain yourself, your turn to give me some detail. I am really curious.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Ironically,most Democratic Politicians who exploit the miserable Losers in this country,are Multi-Millionaires or more. They just play the miserable Losers perfectly around Election Time. Winners don't obsess over how much $$ others make. Only miserable Losers do that. And that's the Fact Jack!

 

[MitchMan]

Libo, what % of the population of this country are you calling losers? 5%, 30% 60%, 85%? Come on, you wouldn't be using those accusations without knowing or at least having a number in your melon that you have researched and can support, would you?

 

[LibocalypseNow]

A miserable Loser blames everyone else for them being a Loser. A miserable Loser sits around obsessing over how much $$ others make because they're lazy,jealous & bitter. A miserable Loser believes their Welfare Checks just magically appear and no one has to pay for them. A miserable Loser believes there's some kind of magical Welfare Fairy out there. A miserable Loser wants to drag others down because they're so unhappy about being such Losers. A miserable Loser is usually a Democrat. Not sure about the numbers but i do know a miserable Loser when i see one. It is what it is.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Lonestar, explain yourself, your turn to give me some detail. I am really curious.

I think you talk out of both sides of your mouth. I posed the question as to why people feel that the rich harms society and you obliged me with a lot of double talk that amounted to nothing.

I started out in life as poor as poor could get and I have forged quite a good life for myself and my family. Dropping out of school at 15 and in prison at 17 didn't sway me from making my way in this world. I now have the luxery of dining at $10,000 a plate benefit dinners and helping like-minded politicians get elected. I suppose you would view that as a bad thing.

 

[MikeK]

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Your right wing pundits and blowhards have you guys by the short hairs and you are too stupid to know it.

Therein lies the tale.

 

[MitchMan]

Libo, you miserable low life. You don't have a clue, do you? You just spew your hatred and have nothing to base it on. You jerk. If you are going to comment on economic issues with such vehemence and certainty and denegrate people, you damn well better be able to support your contentions with factual and verifiable support. Otherwise, that makes you look like an empty cow, a gas bag, a blowhard, and an ignorant and irrelevant hack. You are left with no credibility. You decadent miscreant! I harbor nothing but the most vehement contempt for cowards like you. Stand up, be a man! Defend yourseld with substance and meet the challenge.

 

[MikeK]

I started out in life as poor as poor could get and I have forged quite a good life for myself and my family. Dropping out of school at 15 and in prison at 17 didn't sway me from making my way in this world. I now have the luxery of dining at $10,000 a plate benefit dinners and helping like-minded politicians get elected. I suppose you would view that as a bad thing.

The profile you've presented leaves much to the imagination.

You say you were poor, went to prison at age seventeen but your criminal record has since been expunged and you now attend $10k-a-plate dinners in support of politicians.

What does that sound like? It's not exactly a thumbnail Horatio Alger tale.