Tariff ruling.

[Vrenn]

Not for me. Maybe get your own internet as opposed to the library.

I have my own. What you have is a monthly bill to pay.

 

[SweetTea]

Iran does not have to be better off.
Vietnam Nam and the Taliban were not better off, but they kept fighting until we got tired of it.

How will the U.S. be better off?
Best scenario is things go back to where we were

No, best case scenario is that Iran loses their stockpiles of enriched uranium and is financially hamstrung to continue supporting terrorist organizations. The latter will be more difficult. With no more heavily enriched uranium and perhaps inspections, they are no longer a major threat. That would be a huge win, something the US has been seeking for 45+ years and has never achieved, including after Obama's deal.

 

[rightwinger]

No, best case scenario is that Iran loses their stockpiles of enriched uranium and is financially hamstrung to continue supporting terrorist organizations. The latter will be more difficult. With no more heavily enriched uranium and perhaps inspections, they are no longer a major threat. That would be a huge win, something the US has been seeking for 45+ years and has never achieved, including after Obama's deal.

Problem is that Trump is lazy and is on a short time leash
Converting Iran to your vision takes time and rarely works.
Look what happened with Afghanistan

Trump already had an Iran that had given away it’s stockpiles and was subject to inspections

He threw it away and now wants what he once had

 

[SweetTea]

Trump already had an Iran that had given away it’s stockpiles and was subject to inspections

Wrong. The IAEA investigations round uranium particles and unresolved questions at at least 4 sites. The IAEA also said that Iran had conducted secret nuclear activities involving undeclared nuclear material at several sites. Iran was not complying with its obligations re. JCPOA because they offered no explanation for undeclared material/activities. In other words, we were completely reliant on Iran's disclosures, which were incomplete/dishonest. Iran basically said, hey, you can inspect this stuff here, but we just forgot to mention these others sites, but trust us, pinky swear, we aren't doing anything that would negate the deal at those sites.

 

[Marener]

Wrong. The IAEA investigations round uranium particles and unresolved questions at at least 4 sites. The IAEA also said that Iran had conducted secret nuclear activities involving undeclared nuclear material at several sites. Iran was not complying with its obligations re. JCPOA because they offered no explanation for undeclared material/activities. In other words, we were completely reliant on Iran's disclosures, which were incomplete/dishonest. Iran basically said, hey, you can inspect this stuff here, but we just forgot to mention these others sites, but trust us, pinky swear, we aren't doing anything that would negate the deal at those sites.

You'll have the exact same “problem” with any future deal, but most likely you’ll pretend otherwise.

In reality, there was never any real evidence that Iran was enriching uranium outside of the bounds of the deal. The entire industrial system to do so had been locked down.

 

[SweetTea]

You'll have the exact same “problem” with any future deal, but most likely you’ll pretend otherwise.

It would take them several years to rebuild enrichment facilities if they are destroyed in our bombing. They would be under heavy surveillance, so likely even longer. Facilities large enough to enrich the quantities they would require aren't easy to build and hide.

In reality, there was never any real evidence that Iran was enriching uranium outside of the bounds of the deal. The entire industrial system to do so had been locked down.

Right, they just decided not to disclose several sites. No way they were doing anything nefarious there. They just forgot.

Don't be so naive.

 

[rightwinger]

Wrong. The IAEA investigations round uranium particles and unresolved questions at at least 4 sites. The IAEA also said that Iran had conducted secret nuclear activities involving undeclared nuclear material at several sites. Iran was not complying with its obligations re. JCPOA because they offered no explanation for undeclared material/activities. In other words, we were completely reliant on Iran's disclosures, which were incomplete/dishonest. Iran basically said, hey, you can inspect this stuff here, but we just forgot to mention these others sites, but trust us, pinky swear, we aren't doing anything that would negate the deal at those sites.

WRONG
Iran gave up its uranium stockpiles and was subject to international inspections

Trump promised a better deal and closing the Strait is not better

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Not only did Americans pay the tariffs, they now get to pay them TWICE.

MAGAt freaks: "Thank you, Lord Trump. Anything for you!"

 

[SweetTea]

WRONG
Iran gave up its uranium stockpiles and was subject to international inspections

Trump promised a better deal and closing the Strait is not better

Did you not read what I posted? They didn't disclose at least 4 enrichment sites when negotiating the JCPOA . In other words, they weren't being inspected because the IAEA didn't know about them. What do you think was going on at those sites? We were being duped.

 

[Marener]

It would take them several years to rebuild enrichment facilities if they are destroyed in our bombing. They would be under heavy surveillance, so likely even longer. Facilities large enough to enrich the quantities they would require aren't easy to build and hide.

If the facilities are too large to hide, then we would have known about them under the JCPOA.

But of course, the truth is pretty flexible, depending on who it's convenient or inconvenient for.

Right, they just decided not to disclose several sites. No way they were doing anything nefarious there. They just forgot.

Don't be so naive.

It takes more than a few uranium dust particles to get me all worked up.

 

[Vrenn]

No, best case scenario is that Iran loses their stockpiles of enriched uranium and is financially hamstrung to continue supporting terrorist organizations. The latter will be more difficult. With no more heavily enriched uranium and perhaps inspections, they are no longer a major threat. That would be a huge win, something the US has been seeking for 45+ years and has never achieved, including after Obama's deal.

Which was already done under Obama. Even when you try to tell the truth, you still find a way to turn it into a bunch of lies.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

we know they enriched it to 60 percent which they didnt need for civilian use and we know they drastical increased the number of centrfuges they had which again they didnt need for civilian use. You retards are beyond stupid.

 

[JoeB131]

Drama queen stuff.

Yeah, we are really shut down here, let me tell you.

Iran is losing their butts on a daily basis. Lucky for us, we can hold out much longer than them. We can also bomb them back to the stone ages if we so choose. Some radicals in Iran and ignorant liberals are the only ones that think Iran is in the driver’s seat in this conflict.

Yeah, you keep saying that, guy.

Meanwhile, on Monday, gasoline jumped up 55 cents in one day out here.

And we haven't even gotten to the bad part yet, when the world starts feeling the shortages of nitrites and helium

 

[JoeB131]

It is hilarious that anybody believes that Iran will be better off when this is over than when it started. Just hilarious.

The US will be. Fact.

Actually, no, we won't be.

The economic impact of this is going to be long lasting. It will take months to get the production of oil, helium, and nitrites back up to where they should be.

 

[JoeB131]

No, best case scenario is that Iran loses their stockpiles of enriched uranium and is financially hamstrung to continue supporting terrorist organizations. The latter will be more difficult. With no more heavily enriched uranium and perhaps inspections, they are no longer a major threat. That would be a huge win, something the US has been seeking for 45+ years and has never achieved, including after Obama's deal.

How do you know they've given up all their uranium if you don't occupy the entire country?

 

[Nostra]

You'll have the exact same “problem” with any future deal, but most likely you’ll pretend otherwise.

In reality, there was never any real evidence that Iran was enriching uranium outside of the bounds of the deal. The entire industrial system to do so had been locked down.

Explain why the IAEA says they were never able to confirm compliance. Never.

 

[Vrenn]

we know they enriched it to 60 percent which they didnt need for civilian use and we know they drastical increased the number of centrfuges they had which again they didnt need for civilian use. You retards are beyond stupid.

Okay, stupid, the program was being monitored by nuclear inspectors. What was reality was that their aluminum tubing was NOT Being replaced and the existing tubes were degraded. And no country that was capable of making new ones refused to sell to them. That small amount of 60% was all that they had and they were incapable of making more or taking the percentage higher. And that was done in 2015 by the idiots neamus, Obama. Even Pawxsnews refused to report what you claim.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Okay, stupid, the program was being monitored by nuclear inspectors. What was reality was that their aluminum tubing was NOT Being replaced and the existing tubes were degraded. And no country that was capable of making new ones refused to sell to them. That small amount of 60% was all that they had and they were incapable of making more or taking the percentage higher. And that was done in 2015 by the idiots neamus, Obama. Even Pawxsnews refused to report what you claim.

liar

 

[SweetTea]

If the facilities are too large to hide, then we would have known about them under the JCPOA.

Because they were already buried. Building these large buried facilities is a little more obvious.

It takes more than a few uranium dust particles to get me all worked up.

That is because you are naive and care more about making Tump’s actions look bad that what is best for our country.

Every president has recognized the Iranian nuclear threat. All of a sudden now they aren't a threat and a few hidden facilities that were not being inspected aren’t that big of a deal. It would be a big deal if Iran armed one of its terrorists proxies with a small nuke. You are kidding yourself if you don’t think they would do that if given the opportunity, especially if the US had a feckless regime that would respond if a very forceful “don’t” do that any more or else.

 

[SweetTea]

Which was already done under Obama. Even when you try to tell the truth, you still find a way to turn it into a bunch of lies.

That is false. They hid at least 4 large facilities from inspections. You mean they didn’t tell you that on MSNBC?

They were scamming the US and the MSM was scamming the American people and other NATO countries.