Take a Good Look Democrats, At What You Have Unleashed Upon America

[AntonToo]

"intellectual consistency" Uh huh. Now would you mind (for all us conservatives who don't speak liberal jibberish), please tell us what they hell you purport to be talking about ?

Once again. Trump's toughness with Russia, kept the country quiet. It was only well after he left (November 2021) that Putin assessed Biden to be the weak idiot that he is, and began his invasion. You can twist this, use cute words, do whatever you like, but the whole world is well focused in on this, and you're not going to change a thing. Ho hum. Yawn****

....dummy, I've just explained.

Just because something happens during presidential term does not mean the president caused it. That is true for Republicans as it is for Democrats, but for intellectualy bust partisans like yourself its non-stop blame if opposition is in the WH and non-stop dog washing when it's someone from your tribe.

 

[Esdraelon]

Simple question ; simple answer. The threat of nuclear war could have been avoided the same way it WAS AVOIDED 2017-2020, because Donald Trump was president.

The Leftists will never admit it but the truth is that Trump kept Putin and Xi in line. Any doubts Putin might have had over what Biden would do were settled after he watched Afghanistan. He invaded BECAUSE BIDEN IS WEAK. We'll be damned lucky if Xi doesn't go for Taiwan for the same reason.

 

[Esdraelon]

I'm still amazed at the speed of our Dimm led descent!

When I think of how many more years they'll have to set this nation on fire, it gives me chills.

 

[Esdraelon]

What a great time to be alive in America!

U.S. Satisfaction Low as Economic Concerns Remain High

The American public is not feeling positively about the state of the union, with the vast majority saying they are dissatisfied with the direction the country is going in and 70% saying the economy is getting worse.

news.gallup.com

It's nice to hear you're doing so well. 70% of the nation disagrees with your assessment.

 

[Nostra]

In your opinion, how could that have been avoided.

Trump could have taken a hard line on Russia and nuclear war would have been certain.

Trump could have taken an entirely different approach and worked out an agreement with Russia that could have satisfied both sides.

The first would have been completely impossible, while the second is highly likely.

You have to promote Trump for the right reason and then there will be some possibility of progress. Taking a hard line approach against Russia won't work and it will be shown to not work soon.

A mutually agreed upon peace is the only way forward now.

In your opinion, how could that have been avoided.

By showing strength like Trump did. Putin smells weakness, which is why he bent Barry Hussein and your Vegetable Messiah over.

 

[BluesLegend]

It's pretty bad when France's Macron SCOLDS Biden for putting his foot in his mouth and calling for Putin's ouster. What happened to Biden's 40 years of foreign policy experience?? Dems are laughably inept.

 

[imawhosure]

In your opinion, how could that have been avoided.

By showing strength like Trump did. Putin smells weakness, which is why he bent Barry Hussein and your Vegetable Messiah over.

Nostra.............maybe a topic for a different thread, but do you honestly believe that Biden is in control of policy? Sure, he is the figurehead, but I am telling you, he has little sway in the decisions being reached.

In reality, he owes his Presidency to the far Left. Were it not for Warren sticking around in the primaries, Bernie would probably have been the nominee. Do we remember his positioning in the Primaries until the fix was put in? His campaign was on life support.

I am quite sure you know politics from reading some of your posts. So then-----------------> do you ever wonder what he had to agree to politically, to have his party push him from the trash heap, on up to the nomination? And who agreed to this? Was it him, Dr Jill, his campaign advisors, or all of them together?

Don't get me wrong, he is still 100% culpable for the decisions he has made! But, this is more about the influence of the far left on American politics, when they do not have many seats at the table to start with. Throw as many of these people out as possible in November, and maybe Biden changes a little; or maybe not, but at least we can hamstring these kooks until 2024!

 

[protectionist]

21 positive ratings for the OP, including 3 Loves. On the way to a new record.

 

[AntonToo]

21 positive ratings for the OP, including 3 Loves. On the way to a new record.

You probably don't want to say that pathetic stuff out loud.

 

[protectionist]

You probably don't want to say that pathetic stuff out loud.

21 positive ratings for the OP, including 3 Loves. On the way to a new record.

 

[Bobob]

All the Democrats who either voted for Joe Biden or manipulated votes to get him elected, need to take a good look at our March 2022 America. For that matter, just look at the whole world, and the state that it is in, after a little more than a year of Biden mismanagement, weakness, carelessness, corruption, and downright unconcern.

We now have:
1. the threat of nuclear war (which I haven't felt since the Cuban Missle Crisis in 1962),
2. astronomical inflation like has never been seen,
3. reckless opening of the Mexican border, with millions of unvetted, unvaccinated illegal aliens pouring in, and then being flown around the country on the taxpayer dollar,
4. energy crisis (after being world #1 energy producer)
5. Supply fiasco, with hundreds of cargo ships stalled
6. the Biden "American Rescue Plan (which be renamed > ARP as long as you're not white)
7. plenty more disasters you can add to this list

All horseshit and easily attached to tump if you are honest. None of this could be avoided--nuclear war threat, inflation, Mexican border, energy crisis, supply fiasco, etc. American Rescue Plan for blacks only? Really?

 

[B. Kidd]

All horseshit and easily attached to tump if you are honest. None of this could be avoided--nuclear war threat, inflation, Mexican border, energy crisis, supply fiasco, etc. American Rescue Plan for blacks only? Really?

You never had any credibility.
And now, never will.
Try a different board, loser!

 

[Bobob]

You never had any credibility.
And now, never will.
Try a different board, loser!

I love the way you and your ilk defend your indefensible positions by personally attacking the messenger, and is typical of shallow, uninformed, and uneducated people.

 

[protectionist]

All horseshit and easily attached to tump if you are honest. None of this could be avoided--nuclear war threat, inflation, Mexican border, energy crisis, supply fiasco, etc. American Rescue Plan for blacks only? Really?

Yeah, Really, Mr Information-deprived Democrat DUPE. Amazing how ignorant they are...Sheeeesh!
Your leftist media didnt tell you. What a surprise. Lucky for you, you have us conservatives here in USMB, to fill you in (if only you weren't so brain-warped by years of leftist media conditioning).

Federal Court: Biden’s Rescue Plan Is Racist Against Whites, And Therefore Unconstitutional

President Joe Biden recently taunted Republicans who had rejected his $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan Act by pointing out how they were showcasing its

www.newsbreak.com

Courts Block Biden’s Discriminatory COVID-19 Relief Plans | Independent Women's Forum

Recent federal court rulings reject discrimination in favor of women and minorities in using taxpayer money to aid businesses hard hit by shutdowns

www.iwf.org

 

[protectionist]

I love the way you and your ilk defend your indefensible positions by personally attacking the messenger, and is typical of shallow, uninformed, and uneducated people.

HA HA. Like we never have posted any factual information of substance, huh ? You have no idea how shallow, uninformed, and MISeducated, you and your ilk are.

TRUMP ACCOMPLISHMENTS
1. RECORD positive numbers on the economy, record highs in stock market, despite Covid shutdowns
2. stopped the absurd practice of giving China unrestricted access to our valuable market, and reduced the amount of imports coming from China.
3. holding China accountable for cyber theft,
4. taking Mexico and Central American countries to task for illegal immigration,
5. created 10 million jobs in 4 months, created over 400,000 manufacturing jobs,
6. unemployment claims hit 50 year low,
7. lowest unemployment for blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and disabled in US history, 8.lowest unemployment for women in over 70 years,
9. lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma,
10. 4 million Americans off food stamps,
11. vocational training topped 4 million - highest ever,
12. highest median wage in US history .
13. Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE,
14. FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. > drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases,
15. reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars,
16. Signed Right-To-Try legislation,
17. $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic (the most ever),
18. Signed VA Accountability Act,
19. expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care (I got surgeries and benefits from this myself),
20. United States was a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957,
21. withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord,
22. pressured NATO allies, and they're spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016,
23. made the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces,
24. withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal, 25. moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem,
25. protected Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court, 26. issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay,
27. MCA deal,
28. reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports
29. greatest number of heavily attended rallies in US history
30. net exports increased $59 Billion in 2018,
31. improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement,
32. we were BUILDING THE WALL.
33. provided quality detention centers for migrant children in Southwest Key Programs
34. created 8,700 Opportunity Zones with investment incentives for companies to invest in distressed communities
35. Got Israel/UAE/Bahrain aggreement (the Abraham Accord), establishing Middle East peace
36. Defeated ISIS and killed their leaders incl. # 1 al Baghdadi.
37. Killed Iranian terrorist leader Sulemani.
38. Stopped domestic terrorist mobs by sending federal troops & National Guard
39. record of number of regulations cut, further boosting the economy
40. opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines thereby making America # 1 energy producer in the world (no other president ever did that),
41. rebuilt the US military to a $721 Billion/yr budget
42. increased wages for military personnel
43. Through the COVID pandemic, our Covid mortality rate was REDUCED from over 17,000/week in April. to about 2000/week in June. and remained very low throughout the year, as a result of the many smart things that the president has done. 90% REDUCTION. > HUGE SUCCESS.
44. Massive production of Ventilators - These were left in short supply after the Obama/Biden admin (we now have so many we're exporting them),
45. the Navy hospital ships sent to New York,
46. the stimulus checks,
47. The Task Force advice (ex. social distancing),
48. opposition/criticism of New York's dumb nursing home policies,
49. federal aid to hospitals, rapidly expanding production & distribution of medical supplies
50. travel bans (which Democrats called Trump a "racist' for),
51. Trump's advocacy of Hydroxychloriquin (now proven to be effective, despite criticism from Democrats), and Regeneron.
52. fast, continual development of a vaccine, and rapid success of Operation Warp Speed.
53. Created & signed the MISSION ACT, replacing the failed Obama Choice Act
54. Presided over the largest GDP growth (33.1%) in US history.
55. Got $ 250 Million/year to black colleges.

 

[Godboy]

In your opinion, how could that have been avoided.

Trump could have taken a hard line on Russia and nuclear war would have been certain.

Trump could have taken an entirely different approach and worked out an agreement with Russia that could have satisfied both sides.

The first would have been completely impossible, while the second is highly likely.

You have to promote Trump for the right reason and then there will be some possibility of progress. Taking a hard line approach against Russia won't work and it will be shown to not work soon.

A mutually agreed upon peace is the only way forward now.

If we put 10,000 soldiers on the Ukraine border 3 months ago, Russia never would have invaded. That is simply a fact.

 

[Bobob]

HA HA. Like we never have posted any factual information of substance, huh ? You have no idea how shallow, uninformed, and MISeducated, you and your ilk are.

TRUMP ACCOMPLISHMENTS
1. RECORD positive numbers on the economy, record highs in stock market, despite Covid shutdowns
2. stopped the absurd practice of giving China unrestricted access to our valuable market, and reduced the amount of imports coming from China.
3. holding China accountable for cyber theft,
4. taking Mexico and Central American countries to task for illegal immigration,
5. created 10 million jobs in 4 months, created over 400,000 manufacturing jobs,
6. unemployment claims hit 50 year low,
7. lowest unemployment for blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and disabled in US history, 8.lowest unemployment for women in over 70 years,
9. lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma,
10. 4 million Americans off food stamps,
11. vocational training topped 4 million - highest ever,
12. highest median wage in US history .
13. Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE,
14. FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. > drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases,
15. reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars,
16. Signed Right-To-Try legislation,
17. $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic (the most ever),
18. Signed VA Accountability Act,
19. expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care (I got surgeries and benefits from this myself),
20. United States was a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957,
21. withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord,
22. pressured NATO allies, and they're spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016,
23. made the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces,
24. withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal, 25. moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem,
25. protected Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court, 26. issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay,
27. MCA deal,
28. reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports
29. greatest number of heavily attended rallies in US history
30. net exports increased $59 Billion in 2018,
31. improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement,
32. we were BUILDING THE WALL.
33. provided quality detention centers for migrant children in Southwest Key Programs
34. created 8,700 Opportunity Zones with investment incentives for companies to invest in distressed communities
35. Got Israel/UAE/Bahrain aggreement (the Abraham Accord), establishing Middle East peace
36. Defeated ISIS and killed their leaders incl. # 1 al Baghdadi.
37. Killed Iranian terrorist leader Sulemani.
38. Stopped domestic terrorist mobs by sending federal troops & National Guard
39. record of number of regulations cut, further boosting the economy
40. opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines thereby making America # 1 energy producer in the world (no other president ever did that),
41. rebuilt the US military to a $721 Billion/yr budget
42. increased wages for military personnel
43. Through the COVID pandemic, our Covid mortality rate was REDUCED from over 17,000/week in April. to about 2000/week in June. and remained very low throughout the year, as a result of the many smart things that the president has done. 90% REDUCTION. > HUGE SUCCESS.
44. Massive production of Ventilators - These were left in short supply after the Obama/Biden admin (we now have so many we're exporting them),
45. the Navy hospital ships sent to New York,
46. the stimulus checks,
47. The Task Force advice (ex. social distancing),
48. opposition/criticism of New York's dumb nursing home policies,
49. federal aid to hospitals, rapidly expanding production & distribution of medical supplies
50. travel bans (which Democrats called Trump a "racist' for),
51. Trump's advocacy of Hydroxychloriquin (now proven to be effective, despite criticism from Democrats), and Regeneron.
52. fast, continual development of a vaccine, and rapid success of Operation Warp Speed.
53. Created & signed the MISSION ACT, replacing the failed Obama Choice Act
54. Presided over the largest GDP growth (33.1%) in US history.
55. Got $ 250 Million/year to black colleges.

Guess what, lamb chop? The frost is on the punkin' and so is your long list of phony "accomplishments".

 

[Bobob]

"intellectual consistency" Uh huh. Now would you mind (for all us conservatives who don't speak liberal jibberish), please tell us what they hell you purport to be talking about ?

Once again. Trump's toughness with Russia, kept the country quiet. It was only well after he left (November 2021) that Putin assessed Biden to be the weak idiot that he is, and began his invasion. You can twist this, use cute words, do whatever you like, but the whole world is well focused in on this, and you're not going to change a thing. Ho hum. Yawn****

Updated Mar 12, 2022 · Upvoted by
Dean Frost
, MBA, Harvard, BA International Relations & International Economics, U.C Berkeley (1989) · Author has 7.5K answers and 24M answer views


Originally Answered: Would Putin have invaded Ukraine if Trump were still President?
No, it’s highly unlikely Putin would have invaded Ukraine if Trump was President. National Security journalist Ed Luce said it best: "The reason Putin didn't invade Ukraine while Trump was president was because he was getting everything he wanted without firing a shot, or risking [losing] an oligarch. War is the last resort. Trump was a gift to Putin that kept on giving."
You see, Trump argued NATO was obsolete. He criticized our allies (while praising Putin). Trump abruptly cut all military aid to Ukraine and tried to keep it a secret. Then, when forced to resume it, he ordered that all anti-tank weapons but kept only in Western Ukraine (far from Russian armor). Trump also claimed that it was Ukraine who interfered in the 2016 Presidential election, not Russia. Trump also said that Crimea was part of Russia because they all spoke Russian (which I guess means all areas of the US that speak Spanish or Vietnamese or some other language belong to that country—great logic there!).

You need an education rather than what you get from da guys at the local pub.

 

[jasonnfree]

The op forgot to give credit to trump for the number of deaths he caused on January 6th. All because he lost an election.

 

[Donald H]

If we put 10,000 soldiers on the Ukraine border 3 months ago, Russia never would have invaded. That is simply a fact.

American soldiers? Yes, then you have a point. But surely it would have been considered and then rejected as being much too obviously US aggression. So now you're expected to have confidence on the current plan working.
And then the outcry by the political right as it would become obvious that Biden was starting another war.

Not to mention the direct challenge to Russia.
No, Biden's people, (US military) have devised a plan that can get at least some support from the political right, on the created illusion that America isn't at war.

The Pentagon is betting that Russia won't go nuclear against this cleverly devided proxy war.