Taiwan.....an enigma

[drudge X]

Life expectancy improved from 35 years in 1945 to 62 years in 1976, and today is 76 years.

China: life expectancy 1850-2020| Statista

Life expectancy in China was just 32 in the year 1850, and over the course of the next 170 years, it is expected to more than double to 76.6 years in 2020.

www.statista.com

Sorry, I don’t buy that number unless the data is verified by an independent firm. China faked their COVID death count with only 122,000 deaths. We know the CCP made up that bs number. Crematoriums were running 24/7. I say it’s closer to 15 million. 21 million cell phone numbers disappeared instantly but China said people were canceling service. Yeah, imagine that right. Lockdown, can’t go anywhere, let’s coordinate with 21 million subscribers and cancel service.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I did. If it’s war, expect the US to level those phony islands. Why allow China to use those islands to launch missiles?

The only missiles on that island are for ships and aircraft.

 

[Rogue AI]

That really isn't the case any longer under Trump is it? It never really has been. in reality. We have provided Taiwan with numerous weapons systems over the decades.

If China tries to impose a blockade, we will not honor it and sink the first Chinese ship that tries to enforce it.

Nonsense, we aren't going to risk a nuclear war for Taiwan. Especially if we have a One China Policy.

Indeed, the Spratly islands are in the south. Anything heading north and is west of the Phillipines will be heading through there.

 

[Rogue AI]

My point was, no one cares about international law. The Chinese certainly don't, they've been thumbing their noses at it for the past 20 years.

Plenty of countries care about international law, it was the very basis the US and Europe used against Russian aggression in Ukraine to influence public opinion. In this case it would be China using it against anyone who interfered with their actions in Taiwan. We created the template. How many smaller countries would side with the law just to knock us down a peg? Sadly, too many.

 

[scruffy]

The only missiles on that island are for ships and aircraft.

And... ?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Nonsense, we aren't going to risk a nuclear war for Taiwan. Especially if we have a One China Policy.

Indeed, the Spratly islands are in the south. Anything heading north and is west of the Phillipines will be heading through there.

We do not. Trump has said many times that we will defend Taiwan and so has Japan.

Our bases are east of there. The Philippines and Australians can handle that territory.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

And... ?

They are defensive, not offensive. They can do nothing to Taiwan from there.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Plenty of countries care about international law, it was the very basis the US and Europe used against Russian aggression in Ukraine to influence public opinion. In this case it would be China using it against anyone who interfered with their actions in Taiwan. We created the template. How many smaller countries would side with the law just to knock us down a peg? Sadly, too many.

None. You are grossly mistaken. We would not be the aggressors if China tries to implement a blockade.

 

[yidnar]

Trump’s appeasement of Putin only increases the odds.

the Javelins Trump sent to Ukraine were crucial in stopping Russia from rolling right through the entire country during initial invasion committed by Russia in 2022 .. if Trump would have continued the Obama Ukraine policy and sent blankets and MREs Russia would have rolled right through Ukraine .. here some info for you to absorb before you deflect and deny ..



AI Overview



Yes, Javelins were crucial in stopping Russia's initial invasion of Ukraine in early 2022, allowing Ukrainian forces to ambush and destroy Russian tanks and armored vehicles, significantly hindering their advance, especially around Kyiv, and becoming a powerful symbol of resistance
. These portable, fire-and-forget anti-tank missiles effectively countered Russia's armored columns, preventing the rapid capture of cities and forcing Russia to halt its offensive, with Ukrainian soldiers using them from rooftops and trenches.
How Javelins Helped in the Initial Invasion:

• Ambushing Armor: Ukrainian infantry used Javelins to ambush Russian tanks and armored personnel carriers, targeting the weaker top armor with their fire-and-forget missiles.
• Halting Columns: By taking out lead or trailing vehicles in a column, Javelins would effectively stop the entire advance, trapping the other vehicles.
• Key to Kyiv's Defense: Experts credit Javelins, alongside other weapons, with helping Ukraine withstand the initial onslaught and deny Russia the rapid capture of the capital, Kyiv.
• Symbol of Resistance: The Javelin became an iconic symbol of Ukrainian defiance, often nicknamed "Saint Javelin, Protector of Ukraine".

Before the Invasion:

• Ukraine had already acquired Javelins before the 2022 invasion..

In essence, the widespread deployment and effective use of Javelins by Ukrainian defenders were vital in blunting the initial Russian thrust, proving to be a game-changer in the early stages of the conflict, as noted by Army Technology and The

 

[Rogue AI]

We do not. Trump has said many times that we will defend Taiwan and so has Japan.

Our bases are east of there. The Philippines and Australians can handle that territory.

By all means provide a link that confirms our official stance is no longer One China Policy. Have we recognized Taiwan as an independent country? No, we have not. You are grossly mistaken.

 

[Rogue AI]

None. You are grossly mistaken. We would not be the aggressors if China tries to implement a blockade.

If we do not recognize Taiwan as an independent country, it is an internal Chinese matter. We certainly will not allow China to interfere with our internal matters, why would they or anyone else accept such a double standard? They won't. Again, you are mistaken. It is not our problem, nor can we afford the repercussions. The only thing China needs to do to back us off is threaten to end pharmaceutical exports to the US. Millions would be at risk with no viable alternative sourcing. We had to fly in pharmaceutical ingredients during Covid because of port slow downs. China certainly isn't going to export them to us if we are at war with them, either directly or by proxy.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

By all means provide a link that confirms our official stance is no longer One China Policy. Have we recognized Taiwan as an independent country? No, we have not. You are grossly mistaken.

Our official stance gas not changed, but our real stance says we will defend Taiwan. Why have we sent trops there and sold them innumerable weapons systems?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

If we do not recognize Taiwan as an independent country, it is an internal Chinese matter. We certainly will not allow China to interfere with our internal matters, why would they or anyone else accept such a double standard? They won't. Again, you are mistaken. It is not our problem, nor can we afford the repercussions. The only thing China needs to do to back us off is threaten to end pharmaceutical exports to the US. Millions would be at risk with no viable alternative sourcing. We had to fly in pharmaceutical ingredients during Covid because of port slow downs. China certainly isn't going to export them to us if we are at war with them, either directly or by proxy.

China would be slammed so hard by not allowing exports to reach other countries, their economy would collapse in days. Shutting off their imports means they starve.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

If you weren't a crazy person, we could talk sensibly about the Great Leap Forward,

I am sure that the exquisite irony and comical genius of that statement is lost on you.

on the other hand, Mao also brought the infant mortality rate in China down from 20% when the Communists took power to 6% (And eventually declining to 1% today.)

The infant mortality rate in Taiwan in 1976 was 13.187 deaths per 1000 live births, a decrease of 4.89% from the previous year.

I'm not impressed.

China Infant Mortality Rate (1950-2025)

Infant mortality rate is the number of infants dying before reaching one year of age, per 1,000 live births in a given year.

www.macrotrends.net

Life expectancy improved from 35 years in 1945 to 62 years in 1976

And Taiwan 1976?

71.8-Both
73.8-Females

Once again, not impressed.

Taiwan: Life Expectancy 1950-2025 & Calculator by age

Taiwan is ranked 40/197 for average life expectancy at birth, with 78.1 years for males, 83.9 years for females, and 80.9 years for both genders combined.

georank.org

No, it's actually understanding the full context of history.

It actually seems like cherry picking to me, but what do I know?

OK, fun fact, FUN FACT!

Well, unless you were in a pit in 1960.

"for the first time, many of the myths surrounding his rise to power and the nature of his rule after 1949 were brought to light. The authors estimated that Mao "was responsible for over 70 million deaths in peacetime, more than any other twentieth-century leader."

Mao's 'Great Leap Forward' and the Power of History

We have known for some time that Mao Zedong, founder of the People’s Republic of China, was one of the last century’s most brutal and vicious mass murderers. In 2005, Jung Chang and Jon Halliday’s biography of Mao was published in this country to wide acclaim, and for the first time, many of the...

www.hudson.org

Can you provide context on 70M?

As opposed to what? Do you think North Korea was a wonderful place to live before the Korean War?

Nowhere in East Asia was it nice prior to 1950. They just fought a world war on the continent.
HOWEVER, what made it even worse was Kim Il Sung's attack on the south, later assisted by Mao.

Opposed to?
-26,000 American soldiers who died defending the south from a Communist aggressor
-700K-900K dead Koreans, many of them children.

I mean, it's pretty fkn self explanatory if you're not a sociopathic Mao supporter.

Never seen someone defend Mao. A first.

 

[konradv]

Why would they need an amphibian assault? It's an island, a naval blockade with a no fly zone is all that's needed. We ceded interest long ago, it is not our problem.

It is our problem. Taiwan is where the best computer chips come from, military and civilian. China doesn’t have the navy or air force to enforce a blockade or no-fly zone. They would be blown out of the air/water and we should help.

 

[Unkotare]

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Never seen someone defend Mao. A first.

He's got a hand on the back of his neck, whispers in his ear, and a Venmo coming through.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

He's got a hand on the back of his neck, whispers in his ear, and a Venmo coming through.

He's got creepy, is what he's got.
He is right, I am crazy, but even a crazy bastard like me knows better than to SERIOUSLY defend people like Mao.
I might make jokes, but demons are demons, man. That man was a horrific demon.

 

[Rogue AI]

China would be slammed so hard by not allowing exports to reach other countries, their economy would collapse in days. Shutting off their imports means they starve.

If China goes to war they are not going to be trading with whoever they are fighting. In this case it would be a war we started if the matter is Taiwan. Chinese exports would reach plenty of other countries, just not the ones they are fighting. Don't be a fool.

 

[Rogue AI]

It is our problem. Taiwan is where the best computer chips come from, military and civilian. China doesn’t have the navy or air force to enforce a blockade or no-fly zone. They would be blown out of the air/water and we should help.

Americans won't go to Taiwan to fight and die. It isn't our problem if we aren't willing to fight for it.

 

[konradv]

Americans won't go to Taiwan to fight and die. It isn't our problem if we aren't willing to fight for it.

No one has to fight and die, if a war never happens. If we back Taiwan hard diplomatically and militarily, China has to back down. Their military is not up to modern standards. They can only win by trying to scare us. Don’t let them.