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[Toddsterpatriot]

In a related story about living wages.

Daily Kos: Mayor makes Walmart happy by vetoing Washington, D.C., large retailer living wage bill

WalMart makes DC citizens happy by creating jobs and providing wanted products at decent prices.

Hmm, I guess the retail industry is getting hit by what they see as a bad idea of them holding up the strength that once existed in manufacturing in this country, and in turn once held up a strong middle class. Now since the nation has transferred (in which they all said it would turn into a service and retail industry), yet now they refuse to take the lead? This industry is refusing to hold up a middle class standard as once was seen in other industries across this nation. Now what do we do to keep this nation strong or to grow it strong again, otherwise if the new industry is reluctant to realize it's new role in keeping the nation strong now ? Was the nation duped by Nafta, and this ever since it has transferred over to an industry that will not keep this nation strong or reluctant to take the lead, thus exposing the nation to weakness in many ways now ?

This industry is refusing to hold up a middle class standard

It's awful, they keep prices low for middle class and lower class customers. Disgraceful.

 

[beagle9]

WalMart makes DC citizens happy by creating jobs and providing wanted products at decent prices.

Hmm, I guess the retail industry is getting hit by what they see as a bad idea of them holding up the strength that once existed in manufacturing in this country, and in turn once held up a strong middle class. Now since the nation has transferred (in which they all said it would turn into a service and retail industry), yet now they refuse to take the lead? This industry is refusing to hold up a middle class standard as once was seen in other industries across this nation. Now what do we do to keep this nation strong or to grow it strong again, otherwise if the new industry is reluctant to realize it's new role in keeping the nation strong now ? Was the nation duped by Nafta, and this ever since it has transferred over to an industry that will not keep this nation strong or reluctant to take the lead, thus exposing the nation to weakness in many ways now ?

This industry is refusing to hold up a middle class standard

It's awful, they keep prices low for middle class and lower class customers. Disgraceful.

There are ways to keep prices low other than what they have been doing in the past, and it's not by using the Chinese government etc. who was more than willing to work it's people like slaves, and for American corporations just to keep those prices low back here. Bad Idea with long term implications or future problems down the road as a result of such actions.

How about India and the textile industry also, who also slaved it's people the same or near about, and all in order to make American corporations their products also to sell back here to us ? The fornicating with the world in these ways, has grave consequences in the end, and we have seen these consequences unfolding here and over there after so much of this has gone on now. Are we experiencing the blow back right here and out in the world now from it all ?

 

[Snookie]

WalMart makes DC citizens happy by creating jobs and providing wanted products at decent prices.

Hmm, I guess the retail industry is getting hit by what they see as a bad idea of them holding up the strength that once existed in manufacturing in this country, and in turn once held up a strong middle class. Now since the nation has transferred (in which they all said it would turn into a service and retail industry), yet now they refuse to take the lead? This industry is refusing to hold up a middle class standard as once was seen in other industries across this nation. Now what do we do to keep this nation strong or to grow it strong again, otherwise if the new industry is reluctant to realize it's new role in keeping the nation strong now ? Was the nation duped by Nafta, and this ever since it has transferred over to an industry that will not keep this nation strong or reluctant to take the lead, thus exposing the nation to weakness in many ways now ?

This industry is refusing to hold up a middle class standard

It's awful, they keep prices low for middle class and lower class customers. Disgraceful.

Capitalistic socialism, is what it is.

 

[Godboy]

At the expense of exploiting it's workers and buying everything from china.

What exploiting? There are normally 20 people who apply for every opening at WallMart.

As I have long said, if you do not like getting minimum wage, get yourself some skills so you make a decent income!

I have not made "Minimum Wage" since I was in High School, over 30 years ago. And the only times I did, it was "Wage +", as in tips or a commission where the actual "minimum Wage" was nothing but beer money.

I for one am sick and tired of hearing how "exploited" some 28 year old slacker is who has never done anything above minimal labor unskilled work. If anybody is over 21 and still making minimum wage, then they need to take a real hard look at themselves, because they are failing in life for one reason or another.

Bad work quality, talking back to the boss or customers, showing up late or not showing up at all, not taking more responsibility, the reasons are many. But I can't think of a single reason why somebody would work at a place for more then a year and still be making minimum wage.

Hell, I was 18 and working at a fast food chain for less then 6 months when I got my first promotion and a 50 cent per hour raise (this was in 1983, $3.35, would be around $1 an hour raise today). And if I had stayed there they were talking about sending me to the 2 year AA program at the corporate headquarters.

But I was already enlisted in the military, so I turned all of that down. But I still left after 9 months, making $4.10. So when people whine about only making minimum wage, I tell them they need to get off their butt and learn a skill so they are not just "minimum wage employees".

The military is overpaid. A buck private makes at least 15 per hour counting in benefits, food, clothing, shelter, health care provided.

You are retarded. They pay for clothing? Maybe if you're willing to wear military clothing when your off work, and even then you're only allowed to wear your dress uniform off base. They pay for SOME food, but its not like the galley is open at midnight for personell on night shift. The health care is also VERY limited. Get a cavity, they simply pull the tooth.

I was making $200 dollars every 2 Weeks when I was E1, so don't tell me I was getting good pay. You try and buy food, clothes, music, drinks, entertainment, etc on $200 every two Weeks.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Went into a subway today, but it's not representative of the entire corporation and other locals, so one has to be careful on the use of the boycotting trigger, but anyway I waited in line for I know 10 minutes and still wasn't asked what I wanted yet, so I just turned and walked out just like I came in. Now I won't go back there for a while, because they not only did this to me today, but I had talked to others who had experienced the same problem with that store. Yes it's time that people get smart and boycott stores in which they know have a management and/or a service staff/employee problem.

Yes, well, I love Subway's food, but that being said, there are several Subways in town that I won't frequent. No matter how much franchises try to standardize their products and services, they can't totally eliminate the human factor.

I'm an advocate of voting with your pocketbook, but that's not the same as deciding that someone's business needs to be destroyed and wiped away just because I don't like them.

My, aren't you special?

Next time you have fuck-all to say, but desperately think you need to say something, just say that . . . because you are, anyway.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Yes, well, I love Subway's food, but that being said, there are several Subways in town that I won't frequent. No matter how much franchises try to standardize their products and services, they can't totally eliminate the human factor.

I'm an advocate of voting with your pocketbook, but that's not the same as deciding that someone's business needs to be destroyed and wiped away just because I don't like them.

Most people are knee jerk reactionary. Especially libs. All they see is the corporate logo. They have a bad experience, they slam the entire company not even thinking about the fact that the store is a franchise.

So what? It's a free country.

You people hate free speech.

No, we don't try to prevent anyone from saying whatever they like. We just believe that we have the same right to tell them they're full of shit when they do.

Only leftists feel the need to silence opinions they don't like, because they're too damned wimpy to cope with the knowledge that someone, somewhere think they're fucking morons.

 

[Snookie]

What exploiting? There are normally 20 people who apply for every opening at WallMart.

As I have long said, if you do not like getting minimum wage, get yourself some skills so you make a decent income!

I have not made "Minimum Wage" since I was in High School, over 30 years ago. And the only times I did, it was "Wage +", as in tips or a commission where the actual "minimum Wage" was nothing but beer money.

I for one am sick and tired of hearing how "exploited" some 28 year old slacker is who has never done anything above minimal labor unskilled work. If anybody is over 21 and still making minimum wage, then they need to take a real hard look at themselves, because they are failing in life for one reason or another.

Bad work quality, talking back to the boss or customers, showing up late or not showing up at all, not taking more responsibility, the reasons are many. But I can't think of a single reason why somebody would work at a place for more then a year and still be making minimum wage.

Hell, I was 18 and working at a fast food chain for less then 6 months when I got my first promotion and a 50 cent per hour raise (this was in 1983, $3.35, would be around $1 an hour raise today). And if I had stayed there they were talking about sending me to the 2 year AA program at the corporate headquarters.

But I was already enlisted in the military, so I turned all of that down. But I still left after 9 months, making $4.10. So when people whine about only making minimum wage, I tell them they need to get off their butt and learn a skill so they are not just "minimum wage employees".

The military is overpaid. A buck private makes at least 15 per hour counting in benefits, food, clothing, shelter, health care provided.

You are retarded. They pay for clothing? Maybe if you're willing to wear military clothing when your off work, and even then you're only allowed to wear your dress uniform off base. They pay for SOME food, but its not like the galley is open at midnight for personell on night shift. The health care is also VERY limited. Get a cavity, they simply pull the tooth.

I was making $200 dollars every 2 Weeks when I was E1, so don't tell me I was getting good pay. You try and buy food, clothes, music, drinks, entertainment, etc on $200 every two Weeks.

Add it up, food, shelter, clothing, health care, military discounts, education.

You must learn personal responsibility. The military is the most socialistic organization there is.

 

[Cecilie1200]

In a related story about living wages.

Daily Kos: Mayor makes Walmart happy by vetoing Washington, D.C., large retailer living wage bill

In a related story: Posting links from Daily Kos is the news equivalent of "My sister's best friend's aunt said . . ." and marks you as an utter chump that no one need take seriously.

If Daily Kos was giving away free beer for visiting their website, I STILL wouldn't do it.

 

[Cecilie1200]

In a related story about living wages.

Daily Kos: Mayor makes Walmart happy by vetoing Washington, D.C., large retailer living wage bill

WalMart makes DC citizens happy by creating jobs and providing wanted products at decent prices.

At the expense of exploiting it's workers and buying everything from china.

Exploiting = paying them what their labor and skill level is worth, and then actually expecting them to do their jobs.

So what if they buy from China? Obviously, that's what their customers WANT, or they wouldn't shop there. Duh.

 

[Snookie]

military pay scale. Outrageously overpaid. That's why our taxes are so high.

We will fall like the roman empire because of this.

2013 Military Pay Scale Chart - For US Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines

 

[Cecilie1200]

At the expense of exploiting it's workers and buying everything from china.

You must have this country confused with one where you are forced to work for a company that is exploiting you.

They buy everything from China? Liberal math strikes again. LOL!

All depending, there are many whom are bogged down in a bad situation, and just because they are doesn't mean that they should become easy targets for exploitation. I know of a situation where a man had rental property, and he was renting multiple properties as rentals. He then was caught getting favors by weak easily exploited women, whom needed help on the rent, or felt that they needed to become obedient to the owner whom they felt had their lives in his hand. The correct thing that the owner should have been doing is being a Christian and ethical moral up standing citizen in society, in which could teach good things about how to help those whom are in need or need help, and not demand favors in the way that he did just because he saw an easy target to exploit in the ways that he did. This lesson applies to many situations, and people should check themselves if they are exploiting people whom are easy to exploit, and they should get help fast.

What ever happened to people being able to look up to their peers in their life, especially for those whom are above them in their jobs or where have all the role models gone in life ?

That's such a charming story, but would you mind telling us why you wasted our time with it, or what the fuck it has to do with WalMart paying slightly above minimum wage for unskilled, uneducated laborers to shlep boxes and punch cash register buttons . . . on a completely voluntary basis?

 

[Snookie]

In a related story about living wages.

Daily Kos: Mayor makes Walmart happy by vetoing Washington, D.C., large retailer living wage bill

In a related story: Posting links from Daily Kos is the news equivalent of "My sister's best friend's aunt said . . ." and marks you as an utter chump that no one need take seriously.

If Daily Kos was giving away free beer for visiting their website, I STILL wouldn't do it.

I am sure you watch only the fox news channel.

 

[Snookie]

You must have this country confused with one where you are forced to work for a company that is exploiting you.

They buy everything from China? Liberal math strikes again. LOL!

All depending, there are many whom are bogged down in a bad situation, and just because they are doesn't mean that they should become easy targets for exploitation. I know of a situation where a man had rental property, and he was renting multiple properties as rentals. He then was caught getting favors by weak easily exploited women, whom needed help on the rent, or felt that they needed to become obedient to the owner whom they felt had their lives in his hand. The correct thing that the owner should have been doing is being a Christian and ethical moral up standing citizen in society, in which could teach good things about how to help those whom are in need or need help, and not demand favors in the way that he did just because he saw an easy target to exploit in the ways that he did. This lesson applies to many situations, and people should check themselves if they are exploiting people whom are easy to exploit, and they should get help fast.

What ever happened to people being able to look up to their peers in their life, especially for those whom are above them in their jobs or where have all the role models gone in life ?

That's such a charming story, but would you mind telling us why you wasted our time with it, or what the fuck it has to do with WalMart paying slightly above minimum wage for unskilled, uneducated laborers to shlep boxes and punch cash register buttons . . . on a completely voluntary basis?

Do you know how much a hooker makes compared to them?

Yes, I am sure you do.

 

[Cecilie1200]

In a related story about living wages.

Daily Kos: Mayor makes Walmart happy by vetoing Washington, D.C., large retailer living wage bill

WalMart makes DC citizens happy by creating jobs and providing wanted products at decent prices.

Hmm, I guess the retail industry is getting hit by what they see as a bad idea of them holding up the strength that once existed in manufacturing in this country, and in turn once held up a strong middle class. Now since the nation has transferred (in which they all said it would turn into a service and retail industry), yet now they refuse to take the lead? This industry is refusing to hold up a middle class standard as once was seen in other industries across this nation. Now what do we do to keep this nation strong or to grow it strong again, otherwise if the new industry is reluctant to realize it's new role in keeping the nation strong now ? Was the nation duped by Nafta, and this ever since it has transferred over to an industry that will not keep this nation strong or reluctant to take the lead, thus exposing the nation to weakness in many ways now ?

Businesses don't operate on a "what's good for society, no matter what" basis, and never have. I'm sorry you're just learning that they're not charities, and that it's such a shock to you.

 

[Mushroom]

The military is overpaid. A buck private makes at least 15 per hour counting in benefits, food, clothing, shelter, health care provided.

And please tell me how you arrive at that figure.

On active duty, my average work week at a minimum was 11 hours per day. And quite often for years on end I was putting in 80+ hours a week.

And with all of those adjustments you are putting in, that is only for people who are married. Most of the members in the military are single, so do not get anything but base pay, an annual clothing allowance (an entire $450 a year), and a shared room in the barracks.

As for food, big whoop-de-do. Believe it or not, anybody can eat on base, it is not some "military only" feature. You are welcome to do like we do and pay around $5 and eat in the chow hall, I only did it when I had to (or towards the end of the month when I was broke).

A "Buck Private" as you said it makes just over $1,500 a month. Factor in @200 per month for a PPO, that makes it $1,700 per month.

So let's be generous, figure $500 a month for housing, and the same for food (even though for us that are married, we only get $352 per month), that is $1,800 per month, or $450 a week (before taxes).

Figure that most work the same 11 hour days (6am-5pm), that comes to....

$8.18 per hour. About half of the figure you quote.

When I was deployed, I did an article for the unit's monthly newsletter. I took the pay of a married E-4 with 3 years in and added up all the hazard duty pay, separation pay, and the other things we got when deployed. I then put in the average work week that most of us put in (100 hours per week), and came to a figure of around $5 an hour.

And you dare to say we are "overpaid"?

Tell you what, next time you put in a 100+ hour work week, let me know. We were normally grateful when we got off a bit early, and only did 10.5 hours 1 or 2 days per week.

However, we do not do it for the money. When I quit my job and went back in the military in 2007, I took a significant pay cut (over $5k per year). And since I left active duty, my income has gone up over $15k per year.

So to say our military is overpaid is grossly insulting.

 

[Snookie]

The military is overpaid. A buck private makes at least 15 per hour counting in benefits, food, clothing, shelter, health care provided.

And please tell me how you arrive at that figure.

On active duty, my average work week at a minimum was 11 hours per day. And quite often for years on end I was putting in 80+ hours a week.

And with all of those adjustments you are putting in, that is only for people who are married. Most of the members in the military are single, so do not get anything but base pay, an annual clothing allowance (an entire $450 a year), and a shared room in the barracks.

As for food, big whoop-de-do. Believe it or not, anybody can eat on base, it is not some "military only" feature. You are welcome to do like we do and pay around $5 and eat in the chow hall, I only did it when I had to (or towards the end of the month when I was broke).

A "Buck Private" as you said it makes just over $1,500 a month. Factor in @200 per month for a PPO, that makes it $1,700 per month.

So let's be generous, figure $500 a month for housing, and the same for food (even though for us that are married, we only get $352 per month), that is $1,800 per month, or $450 a week (before taxes).

Figure that most work the same 11 hour days (6am-5pm), that comes to....

$8.18 per hour. About half of the figure you quote.

When I was deployed, I did an article for the unit's monthly newsletter. I took the pay of a married E-4 with 3 years in and added up all the hazard duty pay, separation pay, and the other things we got when deployed. I then put in the average work week that most of us put in (100 hours per week), and came to a figure of around $5 an hour.

And you dare to say we are "overpaid"?

Tell you what, next time you put in a 100+ hour work week, let me know. We were normally grateful when we got off a bit early, and only did 10.5 hours 1 or 2 days per week.

However, we do not do it for the money. When I quit my job and went back in the military in 2007, I took a significant pay cut (over $5k per year). And since I left active duty, my income has gone up over $15k per year.

So to say our military is overpaid is grossly insulting.

"eighty hours a week!" Pooh.

 

[Cecilie1200]

In a related story about living wages.

Daily Kos: Mayor makes Walmart happy by vetoing Washington, D.C., large retailer living wage bill

In a related story: Posting links from Daily Kos is the news equivalent of "My sister's best friend's aunt said . . ." and marks you as an utter chump that no one need take seriously.

If Daily Kos was giving away free beer for visiting their website, I STILL wouldn't do it.

I am sure you watch only the fox news channel.

I'm sure that after posting a Daily Kos link, it matters not even a little bit what you're sure of. Were you actually imagining your insults - or lame attempts at them, at any rate - would have any weight to them at this point? "Ooh, noes! A ignoranus who reads Daily Kos just said I watch Fox News! Wherever shall I hide my face?" Yeah, I don't think so.

 

[Snookie]

So now it's insulting to use my first amendment rights?

This warrior culture is ruining our country.

 

[Antares]

Nope, sorry.
Fliiping burgers or making burritos simply isn't worth more.

 

[Cecilie1200]

All depending, there are many whom are bogged down in a bad situation, and just because they are doesn't mean that they should become easy targets for exploitation. I know of a situation where a man had rental property, and he was renting multiple properties as rentals. He then was caught getting favors by weak easily exploited women, whom needed help on the rent, or felt that they needed to become obedient to the owner whom they felt had their lives in his hand. The correct thing that the owner should have been doing is being a Christian and ethical moral up standing citizen in society, in which could teach good things about how to help those whom are in need or need help, and not demand favors in the way that he did just because he saw an easy target to exploit in the ways that he did. This lesson applies to many situations, and people should check themselves if they are exploiting people whom are easy to exploit, and they should get help fast.

What ever happened to people being able to look up to their peers in their life, especially for those whom are above them in their jobs or where have all the role models gone in life ?

That's such a charming story, but would you mind telling us why you wasted our time with it, or what the fuck it has to do with WalMart paying slightly above minimum wage for unskilled, uneducated laborers to shlep boxes and punch cash register buttons . . . on a completely voluntary basis?

Do you know how much a hooker makes compared to them?

Yes, I am sure you do.

Why the hatred . . . just because you can't give it away?