Sudden Deployment of Dozens of U.S. Air Force Tankers Raises Questions

Copilot surmises "The Fordow nuclear facility in Iran sustained severe damage from U.S. airstrikes involving bunker-buster bombs, but it was not destroyed. According to U.S. officials, B-2 stealth bombers dropped six bunker-buster bombs on the site, which is deeply buried and heavily fortified. Despite the intensity of the attack, the underground complex remained structurally intact in key areas

The Fordow facility is built under approximately 90 meters of rock, making it extremely difficult to penetrate with conventional or even advanced bunker-busting munitions

Satellite imagery and intelligence assessments suggest that while surface and access points were hit hard, the core uranium enrichment infrastructure deep underground was not fully neutralized.

The operation was part of a broader U.S. strike on multiple Iranian nuclear sites, including Natanz and Isfahan, and involved over 125 aircraft and submarine-launched cruise missiles."

US intelligence and satellite imagery indicated "the core uranium enrichment infrastructure deep underground was not fully neutralized."

Let's see if the US and Iran will stop throwing bombs and sit down to talk.

www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250622-us-bunker-buster-bombs-failed-to-destroy-irans-fordo-nuclear-facility-report/
www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-22/inside-iran-fordow-nuclear-bunker-bombed-by-us/105446636
 
Copilot surmises "The Fordow nuclear facility in Iran sustained severe damage from U.S. airstrikes involving bunker-buster bombs, but it was not destroyed. According to U.S. officials, B-2 stealth bombers dropped six bunker-buster bombs on the site, which is deeply buried and heavily fortified. Despite the intensity of the attack, the underground complex remained structurally intact in key areas

The Fordow facility is built under approximately 90 meters of rock, making it extremely difficult to penetrate with conventional or even advanced bunker-busting munitions

Satellite imagery and intelligence assessments suggest that while surface and access points were hit hard, the core uranium enrichment infrastructure deep underground was not fully neutralized.

The operation was part of a broader U.S. strike on multiple Iranian nuclear sites, including Natanz and Isfahan, and involved over 125 aircraft and submarine-launched cruise missiles."

US intelligence and satellite imagery indicated "the core uranium enrichment infrastructure deep underground was not fully neutralized."

Let's see if the US and Iran will stop throwing bombs and sit down to talk.

www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250622-us-bunker-buster-bombs-failed-to-destroy-irans-fordo-nuclear-facility-report/
www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-22/inside-iran-fordow-nuclear-bunker-bombed-by-us/105446636
Nuke Till They Puke

The nuke workers underground have to get air from the surface. So that air has to be poisoned by radiation from Israel's or our own nukes.
 
And now it's your wishful thinking. They won't do it because, at least, we'll destroy them on the airfields by our first strike.
Even if did a bolt from the blue launch, the B-2s and B-1s would get off the ground and between them and the Ohio’s, even if you destroyed every land-based missile in its silo, they would destroy Russia. Get it through your head, Russia can’t win a nuclear war.
 
Nuke Till They Puke

The nuke workers underground have to get air from the surface. So that air has to be poisoned by radiation from Israel's or our own nukes.
More stupidity from you.

If bunker busters go deep underground and damage any containers of uranium when the said bunker busters go “boom” — then the ensuing radiation wouldn’t be from any of our nukes.
 
Even if did a bolt from the blue launch, the B-2s and B-1s would get off the ground and between them and the Ohio’s, even if you destroyed every land-based missile in its silo, they would destroy Russia. Get it through your head, Russia can’t win a nuclear war.

Nobody "wins" a nuclear war. And only the mentally ill or delusional even think that is possible.

But for some reason, some people imagine it is amazingly simple to destroy the nuclear weapons of the US. They apparently have no comprehension of the vast area that even our land based missiles are scattered around. There are over 400 of them, scattered around vast areas of five different states.

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Even if every single Minuteman II crew was struck dead in an instant so not a single missile was launched, hitting each silo with a nuke leaves less than 100 Russian nukes for other targets. Which then have to not only strike all the B-1 and B-2 bases are located at, but the Naval bases as well.

And somehow find all the ships at sea.

And if tensions are rising to the point that seems like something that might happen, the US would respond by scattering a lot of their assets to even more bases. That means even more targets, and even more ships at sea.

Oh, and one must not forget there is then NATO. France has around 290 nukes, the UK has around 225. And as a member of NATO, a nuclear strike on one nation is considered to be a nuclear strike on all nations. That is still over 500 nukes that can be launched at Russia.

Where are they going to get the nukes to take them all out as well? Of course, in their mentally ill minds, they honestly seem to think that the UK and France will not respond.
 
The fact is Russia would be completely destroyed, while the US would survive intact.
 
Nobody "wins" a nuclear war. And only the mentally ill or delusional even think that is possible.

But for some reason, some people imagine it is amazingly simple to destroy the nuclear weapons of the US. They apparently have no comprehension of the vast area that even our land based missiles are scattered around. There are over 400 of them, scattered around vast areas of five different states.

bc0562_d8495923118e43329a89e373f56f68e6~mv2.png


Even if every single Minuteman II crew was struck dead in an instant so not a single missile was launched, hitting each silo with a nuke leaves less than 100 Russian nukes for other targets. Which then have to not only strike all the B-1 and B-2 bases are located at, but the Naval bases as well.

And somehow find all the ships at sea.

And if tensions are rising to the point that seems like something that might happen, the US would respond by scattering a lot of their assets to even more bases. That means even more targets, and even more ships at sea.

Oh, and one must not forget there is then NATO. France has around 290 nukes, the UK has around 225. And as a member of NATO, a nuclear strike on one nation is considered to be a nuclear strike on all nations. That is still over 500 nukes that can be launched at Russia.

Where are they going to get the nukes to take them all out as well? Of course, in their mentally ill minds, they honestly seem to think that the UK and France will not respond.
You are making a worst case assumption that the majority of Russian nukes actually detonate as designed and that the majority of Russian ICBMs manage to lift off with self- destruction from lack of maintenance. In reality my guess is less than ten percent of Russian warheads would achieve a high order detonation and an even smaller proportion of the ICBMs would lift off and even come close to hitting their targets. In Ukraine, we’ve seen how poor Russian targeting systems accuracy is.
 
Even if did a bolt from the blue launch, the B-2s and B-1s would get off the ground and between them and the Ohio’s, even if you destroyed every land-based missile in its silo, they would destroy Russia. Get it through your head, Russia can’t win a nuclear war.
Mounting bombs and taking off demands time. If they are not airborne alert - missiles will take them before it.
 
Nobody "wins" a nuclear war. And only the mentally ill or delusional even think that is possible.
Of course it mostly depends on the definition of the term "victory". The situation "we are staying, they are not" is quite acceptable (if the only alternative is total elimination). And, say, situation, in which Russia+China+DPRK lose less than 10% of population (and continue their existence as independent states and build new world order), and the USA, UK and France lose more than 90% of their population and cease existence as states - is pretty possible result of a nuclear exchange.

But for some reason, some people imagine it is amazingly simple to destroy the nuclear weapons of the US.
It's not simple at all. But it doesn't mean that it is impossible.

They apparently have no comprehension of the vast area that even our land based missiles are scattered around. There are over 400 of them, scattered around vast areas of five different states.

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Even if every single Minuteman II crew was struck dead in an instant so not a single missile was launched, hitting each silo with a nuke leaves less than 100 Russian nukes for other targets. Which then have to not only strike all the B-1 and B-2 bases are located at, but the Naval bases as well.
Actually, Russia has more than 5 thousand nukes, more than 1500 of them strategic and deployed. And there are only two bases of bombers and two bases of SSBNs. Two plus two equals four. Plus few more warheads on other military strategic targets, which can be hit without significant collateral losses among American civilians. Counter-force strike. Something like shooting in the hand with a pistol. And then, when you are already unable to kill more than ten million of Russians - we suggest you peace on mutually acceptable, but Russia-prefered terms. (Like you leave Eurasia and Africa, return as Alaska and California, but continue your existence as an independent and nuclear state and even keep your seat in UN SC). If you retaliate - we'll destroy seven US cities for every damaged Russian city. With your poor FEMA you'll suffer much more than the Russians (who, among other things, had already evacuated their state-essensial personel).


And somehow find all the ships at sea.
Not necessary. Right now you have on the hard duty in Atlantic only two SSBNs - USS Wyoming and USS Maryland. Both with not full payload. We need to hunt and eliminate only one of them to totally rule out the possibility of the destruction of Moscow. The ABD system can guarantee (more or less) protection of Moscow from single SSBN's salvo. The attempt to overwhelm ABD of Moscow region by salvo of two SSBNs is also gambling, but with better chances for Moscow.
So, after first Russian strike you have a choice -
1) No retaliation, accept Russian peace, lose Alaska and California (and kill no Russians), but save America (as an independent state).
2) Try to kill some Russians (no more than one million of them) but to lose America and 90% of Americans. (Russians will take Alaska and California anyway, but the rest of the former USA will be divided between Canada and Mexico with 90% of pre-war US population killed).



And if tensions are rising to the point that seems like something that might happen, the US would respond by scattering a lot of their assets to even more bases.
No. When it comes to this point, the USA still have a choice - to roll back (if they believe that the Russian preparations are real), or to do nothing (if they believe that the Russians are bluffing). If America try to scatter nuclear assets - Russia will escalate even faster and attack them first before they really had scattered. If you wanna play Texas Red - play it, no problem.

That means even more targets, and even more ships at sea.
No. If you believe in reality of the Russians threats - you just f#ck off and do few steps back. Nothing in Ukraine and/or Europe is really vital for the USA.
Oh, and one must not forget there is then NATO. France has around 290 nukes, the UK has around 225.
Forgot them. One target (HMNB Clyde) in the UK, few in France. Each country has only one submarine with some thirty RV's in the sea at any given moment. Highly unlikely they're going to commit collective suicide just to demonstrate their undying fidelity to the USA (especially if the USA already defeated).

And as a member of NATO, a nuclear strike on one nation is considered to be a nuclear strike on all nations. That is still over 500 nukes that can be launched at Russia.
No. One British SSBN, one French SSBN, few dosens of B61 gravity bombs that they couldn't even deliver to the frontlines.

Where are they going to get the nukes to take them all out as well?
I see no problem. The USA has, say, 500 nuclear force targets. The whole Europe has lesser than twenty (and only three of them are really important).

Of course, in their mentally ill minds, they honestly seem to think that the UK and France will not respond.
In the situation when the retaliation means a certain suicide, the USA are already defeated and Russia suggest pretty good terms of peace, like, say, participation in the humanitarian occupation of the former USA (and its recolonization)? Of course they will respond. And do you know what exactly they will respond on the Russian suggestion? It's not even a stick and a carrot. New England and Louisiana are nice and delicious cakes, and the thousands of Russian nukes are much better than any stick.
 
Mounting bombs and taking off demands time. If they are not airborne alert - missiles will take them before it.
There is no way Russia could make an attack without telegraphing it. If no other way by the orders for the citizens to go to the Civil Defense Shelters that you always blab about. But in the real world, as tensions ratchet up the bombers wil be armed and on strip alert with the crews in alert facilities able to take off in five minues or less. I saw a B-52 wing scramble back in 1971, they were taking off nearly nose to tail, perhaps thirty seconds apart. The B-2 and B-1 are designed for rapid takeoffs.
 
As I already said, the graveyards of history are full of the fools, who underestimated Russia.
Who? Japan, yes, France, no, Russians never defeated Napolean, his lack of logistics defeated him. Germany in WWI? The revolution defeated Russia. Germany in WWII? if not for the British version of Lend-Lease, Moscow would have fallen and Stalin would have had to pull back behind the Urals to starve.
 
There is no way Russia could make an attack without telegraphing it. If no other way by the orders for the citizens to go to the Civil Defense Shelters that you always blab about. But in the real world, as tensions ratchet up the bombers wil be armed and on strip alert with the crews in alert facilities able to take off in five minues or less.
Actually, ground-alert demands almost thirty minutes to take off. And no, in the real world, before raising DEFCON status, decision makers think if this is actually the best way to settle things down. And when the threat is not vital, when there is the choice between a nuclear war and leaving Vietnam , Afghanistan, Ukraine (or Europe) America choose retreat.

I saw a B-52 wing scramble back in 1971, they were taking off nearly nose to tail, perhaps thirty seconds apart. The B-2 and B-1 are designed for rapid takeoffs.
Forgot about B-1. And B-2 can't play against undamaged integrated air-defence.
 
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Actually, ground-alert demands almost thirty minutes to take off. And no, in the real world, before raising DEFCON status, decision makers think if this is actually the best way to settle things down. And when the threat is not vital, when there is the choice between a nuclear war and leaving Vietnam , Afghanistan, Ukraine (or Europe) America choose retreat.


Forgot about B-1. And B-2 can't play against undamaged integrated air-defence.

You really have no idea.
 
Who? Japan, yes, France, no, Russians never defeated Napolean, his lack of logistics defeated him. Germany in WWI? The revolution defeated Russia. Germany in WWII? if not for the British version of Lend-Lease, Moscow would have fallen and Stalin would have had to pull back behind the Urals to starve.

And especially the US. Stalin himself said that they would have lost WWII if not for the assistance of the US. And he was screaming since 1942 for the Allies to open a second front in order to take the pressure off of the ceaseless attacks by Germany against the Soviet Union.

I would also state that clearly the largest threat ever to Russia is Russia itself. They have killed more of their own people than all other nations combined. And at least in most countries like the US where that is also true, in those cases most of the deaths were in actual wars. In Russia, it was done outside of wars be persecutions and slaughters of their own population. That is something unique in the nations that chose to follow Marxism-Communism. While they are/were threats to other nations, they were an even bigger threat to their own populations.
 
And especially the US. Stalin himself said that they would have lost WWII if not for the assistance of the US. And he was screaming since 1942 for the Allies to open a second front in order to take the pressure off of the ceaseless attacks by Germany against the Soviet Union.

I would also state that clearly the largest threat ever to Russia is Russia itself. They have killed more of their own people than all other nations combined. And at least in most countries like the US where that is also true, in those cases most of the deaths were in actual wars. In Russia, it was done outside of wars be persecutions and slaughters of their own population. That is something unique in the nations that chose to follow Marxism-Communism. While they are/were threats to other nations, they were an even bigger threat to their own populations.

The white American enslavers killed untold African slaves and native Americans.
 
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