Stupid Bastard Announces Begining Of Shooting War With Iran

[Dr Grump]

Guess what? America doesn’t care if we piss you off, so you are wasting your time here.

No, only right wing, Deplorables don't care. And I couldn't give a shit what you care about in this regard.

 

[charwin95]

Good diplomacy is a better policy.
Strong ARM policy is always the worst policy.


If we want something from Iran. Treating them as an enemy, starving their people, cannot a bank loan. What do we expect from return? Zero to NOTHING. Fuck you.

If we want something from China to cooperate with us with CV investigation. Then treating them and finger pointing. You don’t expect any cooperation.


If I want something from you. Treating you as an enemy, starving your kids, close your bank account. What do I expect from you in return? Zero to Nothing. Fuck you go to hell.


If I come to you as a friend. Offering you a better future, food, $ and life for your kids. I expect a love and respect from you. I stand a better chance and high percentage I can get something in return. We can be friends work together and get rid of the bad policy.

TELL ME WHERE I’M WRONG?
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[Fort Fun Indiana]

If we want something from Iran. Treating them as an enemy, starving their people, cannot a bank loan. What do we expect from return? Zero to NOTHING. Fuck you.

Very true, but their leadership, of which they have no choice whatsoever, says we are the Great Satan. They have since 1979. Starve them, feed them, their leadership remains a religious kleptocracy.

 

[lennypartiv]

Good diplomacy is a better policy.
Strong ARM policy is always the worst policy.
If we want something from Iran. Treating them as an enemy, starving their people, cannot a bank loan. What do we expect from return? Zero to NOTHING. Fuck you.
If we want something from China to cooperate with us with CV investigation. Then treating them and finger pointing. You don’t expect any cooperation.
If I want something from you. Treating you as an enemy, starving your kids, close your bank account. What do I expect from you in return? Zero to Nothing. Fuck you go to hell.
If I come to you as a friend. Offering you a better future, food, $ and life for your kids. I expect a love and respect from you. I stand a better chance and high percentage I can get something in return. We can be friends work together and get rid of the bad policy.
TELL ME WHERE I’M WRONG?

Sometimes using military force gets better results. We've got to be willing to drop bombs on some of these third world countries in order to make them feel enough pain. It makes even more sense now since it would help boost our economy.

 

[gipper]

daveman said —
“And of course, Iran would NEVER lie.”

Is that supposed to be ... satire?

Of course the Iranian theocratic regime can lie. They lie all the time! So does our government, by the way.

The goal of all my comments is to put what they say and what both sides do into context. Do you think the Iranian regime is “suicidal” ... as others have said? Or are they desperately trying to survive, to show the U.S. they are really not ”paper tigers” even though they lack nuclear weapons? ... even if they lack dozens of military bases surrounding the USA!

You can’t get over American diplomats and CIA men held by revolutionary students 40 years ago? Well, guess what? They haven’t gotten over the war we encouraged Saddam Hussein to wage against them, and the chemical weapons used against their soldiers, and the bombs that fell on their cities, a war that lasted almost a decade — followed by war sanctions. We are an existential threat to them, as we were to the regimes and peoples of Libya, Syria and Iraq.

To say nothing of the CIA instigated coup to install the Shah. Then there was the passenger airline the US navy shot down. Decades of sanctions and threats by the Empire.

It is doubtless that over the last 40 years, covert ops to harm Iran has been implemented by the Empire, that the American people will never know about.

Yet, the dumb American thinks Iran is the aggressor and the Empire is peaches and cream.

 

[sparky]

His insane antics used to be funny. He’s let the vermin take over for the warmongers.View attachment 326570

war always follow recessions....~S~

 

[Redfish]

If history is our guide, whenever an empire has unrest at home, the elites love to start a war to silence dissent.

Except Trump is not the one starting this shit, dude.

US ships and aircraft are in the vicinity of Iran's territory.

How is it that the US is not starting this shit?

How is it you think it's us and not Iran starting the bullcrap ?? Are you the enemy of this nation comfortably sitting on this board spewing your hate towards America and American's daily ??

That’s hilarious. You are the typical dumb American. The US government has enormous military capabilities surrounding Iran and is constantly threatening them with annihilation, but you think Iran is the aggressor.

You must watch a lot of Fox News, because no one can be that dumb on their own.

Iran has been funding and supporting islamic terrorists for years, so yes, they are the aggressor.

Saudis were the 9/11 terrorists. No Iranians.

Saudi Sunnis are suicide bombers. No Iranian suicide bombers to date.

all funded and supported by Iran. Wake the fuck up.

 

[Redfish]

daveman said —
“And of course, Iran would NEVER lie.”

Is that supposed to be ... satire?

Of course the Iranian theocratic regime can lie. They lie all the time! So does our government, by the way.

The goal of all my comments is to put what they say and what both sides do into context. Do you think the Iranian regime is “suicidal” ... as others have said? Or are they desperately trying to survive, to show the U.S. they are really not ”paper tigers” even though they lack nuclear weapons? ... even if they lack dozens of military bases surrounding the USA!

You can’t get over American diplomats and CIA men held by revolutionary students 40 years ago? Well, guess what? They haven’t gotten over the war we encouraged Saddam Hussein to wage against them, and the chemical weapons used against their soldiers, and the bombs that fell on their cities, a war that lasted almost a decade — followed by war sanctions. We are an existential threat to them, as we were to the regimes and peoples of Libya, Syria and Iraq.

To say nothing of the CIA instigated coup to install the Shah. Then there was the passenger airline the US navy shot down. Decades of sanctions and threats by the Empire.

It is doubtless that over the last 40 years, covert ops to harm Iran has been implemented by the Empire, that the American people will never know about.

Yet, the dumb American thinks Iran is the aggressor and the Empire is peaches and cream.

I am sure that the ayatollah would welcome you as a new iranian citizen, when are you leaving?

 

[Redfish]

Good diplomacy is a better policy.
Strong ARM policy is always the worst policy.


If we want something from Iran. Treating them as an enemy, starving their people, cannot a bank loan. What do we expect from return? Zero to NOTHING. Fuck you.

If we want something from China to cooperate with us with CV investigation. Then treating them and finger pointing. You don’t expect any cooperation.


If I want something from you. Treating you as an enemy, starving your kids, close your bank account. What do I expect from you in return? Zero to Nothing. Fuck you go to hell.


If I come to you as a friend. Offering you a better future, food, $ and life for your kids. I expect a love and respect from you. I stand a better chance and high percentage I can get something in return. We can be friends work together and get rid of the bad policy.

TELL ME WHERE I’M WRONG?
.

where are you wrong? in every word of your post. The only thing that muslim terrorists understand or respect is overwhelming force. they laugh at the diplomacy tried by obozo, they took his money and used it against the USA, screw them, and screw you

 

[Redfish]

daveman said —
“And of course, Iran would NEVER lie.”

Is that supposed to be ... satire?

Of course the Iranian theocratic regime can lie. They lie all the time! So does our government, by the way.

The goal of all my comments is to put what they say and what both sides do into context. Do you think the Iranian regime is “suicidal” ... as others have said? Or are they desperately trying to survive, to show the U.S. they are really not ”paper tigers” even though they lack nuclear weapons? ... even if they lack dozens of military bases surrounding the USA!

You can’t get over American diplomats and CIA men held by revolutionary students 40 years ago? Well, guess what? They haven’t gotten over the war we encouraged Saddam Hussein to wage against them, and the chemical weapons used against their soldiers, and the bombs that fell on their cities, a war that lasted almost a decade — followed by war sanctions. We are an existential threat to them, as we were to the regimes and peoples of Libya, Syria and Iraq.

To say nothing of the CIA instigated coup to install the Shah. Then there was the passenger airline the US navy shot down. Decades of sanctions and threats by the Empire.

It is doubtless that over the last 40 years, covert ops to harm Iran has been implemented by the Empire, that the American people will never know about.

Yet, the dumb American thinks Iran is the aggressor and the Empire is peaches and cream.

The Shah was Iran's chance to enter the 21 century and live in peace with the world. But they ousted him and turned it back into an 11th century shithole run by crazed muslim clerics.

 

[gipper]

daveman said —
“And of course, Iran would NEVER lie.”

Is that supposed to be ... satire?

Of course the Iranian theocratic regime can lie. They lie all the time! So does our government, by the way.

The goal of all my comments is to put what they say and what both sides do into context. Do you think the Iranian regime is “suicidal” ... as others have said? Or are they desperately trying to survive, to show the U.S. they are really not ”paper tigers” even though they lack nuclear weapons? ... even if they lack dozens of military bases surrounding the USA!

You can’t get over American diplomats and CIA men held by revolutionary students 40 years ago? Well, guess what? They haven’t gotten over the war we encouraged Saddam Hussein to wage against them, and the chemical weapons used against their soldiers, and the bombs that fell on their cities, a war that lasted almost a decade — followed by war sanctions. We are an existential threat to them, as we were to the regimes and peoples of Libya, Syria and Iraq.

To say nothing of the CIA instigated coup to install the Shah. Then there was the passenger airline the US navy shot down. Decades of sanctions and threats by the Empire.

It is doubtless that over the last 40 years, covert ops to harm Iran has been implemented by the Empire, that the American people will never know about.

Yet, the dumb American thinks Iran is the aggressor and the Empire is peaches and cream.

I am sure that the ayatollah would welcome you as a new iranian citizen, when are you leaving?

Yes I’m a traitor for disagreeing with the criminal government you so love and adore.

All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.

You will do well in our Orwellian future.

 

[Redfish]

daveman said —
“And of course, Iran would NEVER lie.”

Is that supposed to be ... satire?

Of course the Iranian theocratic regime can lie. They lie all the time! So does our government, by the way.

The goal of all my comments is to put what they say and what both sides do into context. Do you think the Iranian regime is “suicidal” ... as others have said? Or are they desperately trying to survive, to show the U.S. they are really not ”paper tigers” even though they lack nuclear weapons? ... even if they lack dozens of military bases surrounding the USA!

You can’t get over American diplomats and CIA men held by revolutionary students 40 years ago? Well, guess what? They haven’t gotten over the war we encouraged Saddam Hussein to wage against them, and the chemical weapons used against their soldiers, and the bombs that fell on their cities, a war that lasted almost a decade — followed by war sanctions. We are an existential threat to them, as we were to the regimes and peoples of Libya, Syria and Iraq.

To say nothing of the CIA instigated coup to install the Shah. Then there was the passenger airline the US navy shot down. Decades of sanctions and threats by the Empire.

It is doubtless that over the last 40 years, covert ops to harm Iran has been implemented by the Empire, that the American people will never know about.

Yet, the dumb American thinks Iran is the aggressor and the Empire is peaches and cream.

I am sure that the ayatollah would welcome you as a new iranian citizen, when are you leaving?

Yes I’m a traitor for disagreeing with the criminal government you so love and adore.

All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.

You will do well in our Orwellian future.

funny that you mention Orwell. He predicted the state control and domination that you say you want.

 

[gipper]

daveman said —
“And of course, Iran would NEVER lie.”

Is that supposed to be ... satire?

Of course the Iranian theocratic regime can lie. They lie all the time! So does our government, by the way.

The goal of all my comments is to put what they say and what both sides do into context. Do you think the Iranian regime is “suicidal” ... as others have said? Or are they desperately trying to survive, to show the U.S. they are really not ”paper tigers” even though they lack nuclear weapons? ... even if they lack dozens of military bases surrounding the USA!

You can’t get over American diplomats and CIA men held by revolutionary students 40 years ago? Well, guess what? They haven’t gotten over the war we encouraged Saddam Hussein to wage against them, and the chemical weapons used against their soldiers, and the bombs that fell on their cities, a war that lasted almost a decade — followed by war sanctions. We are an existential threat to them, as we were to the regimes and peoples of Libya, Syria and Iraq.

To say nothing of the CIA instigated coup to install the Shah. Then there was the passenger airline the US navy shot down. Decades of sanctions and threats by the Empire.

It is doubtless that over the last 40 years, covert ops to harm Iran has been implemented by the Empire, that the American people will never know about.

Yet, the dumb American thinks Iran is the aggressor and the Empire is peaches and cream.

The Shah was Iran's chance to enter the 21 century and live in peace with the world. But the ousted him and turned it back into an 11th century shithole run by crazed muslim clerics.

The Shah. LMAO.

You aren’t informed. The Shah ruled for decades. I guess that wasn’t enough time to modernize a peaceful Iran. LOL.

Your beloved CIA overthrew the democratically elected prime minister in 1953 and installed the Shah. I thought our government supported democratic elections. LOL.

 

[gipper]

daveman said —
“And of course, Iran would NEVER lie.”

Is that supposed to be ... satire?

Of course the Iranian theocratic regime can lie. They lie all the time! So does our government, by the way.

The goal of all my comments is to put what they say and what both sides do into context. Do you think the Iranian regime is “suicidal” ... as others have said? Or are they desperately trying to survive, to show the U.S. they are really not ”paper tigers” even though they lack nuclear weapons? ... even if they lack dozens of military bases surrounding the USA!

You can’t get over American diplomats and CIA men held by revolutionary students 40 years ago? Well, guess what? They haven’t gotten over the war we encouraged Saddam Hussein to wage against them, and the chemical weapons used against their soldiers, and the bombs that fell on their cities, a war that lasted almost a decade — followed by war sanctions. We are an existential threat to them, as we were to the regimes and peoples of Libya, Syria and Iraq.

To say nothing of the CIA instigated coup to install the Shah. Then there was the passenger airline the US navy shot down. Decades of sanctions and threats by the Empire.

It is doubtless that over the last 40 years, covert ops to harm Iran has been implemented by the Empire, that the American people will never know about.

Yet, the dumb American thinks Iran is the aggressor and the Empire is peaches and cream.

I am sure that the ayatollah would welcome you as a new iranian citizen, when are you leaving?

Yes I’m a traitor for disagreeing with the criminal government you so love and adore.

All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.

You will do well in our Orwellian future.

funny that you mention Orwell. He predicted the state control and domination that you say you want.

You got that backwards son. You support a criminal state. I don’t. For this you call me a traitor.

 

[Denizen]

If history is our guide, whenever an empire has unrest at home, the elites love to start a war to silence dissent.

Except Trump is not the one starting this shit, dude.

US ships and aircraft are in the vicinity of Iran's territory.

How is it that the US is not starting this shit?

How is it you think it's us and not Iran starting the bullcrap ?? Are you the enemy of this nation comfortably sitting on this board spewing your hate towards America and American's daily ??

That’s hilarious. You are the typical dumb American. The US government has enormous military capabilities surrounding Iran and is constantly threatening them with annihilation, but you think Iran is the aggressor.

You must watch a lot of Fox News, because no one can be that dumb on their own.

Iran has been funding and supporting islamic terrorists for years, so yes, they are the aggressor.

Saudis were the 9/11 terrorists. No Iranians.

Saudi Sunnis are suicide bombers. No Iranian suicide bombers to date.

all funded and supported by Iran. Wake the fuck up.

You are a fucking idiot. Saudi Sunnis funded by Iran? Absolute idiocy.

Dopey Donald Trump deserves people like you and attracts them like flies to a fresh dog turd.

 

[easyt65]

His insane antics used to be funny. He’s let the vermin take over for the warmongers.View attachment 326570

"Stupid Bastard Announces Beginning Of Shooting War With Iran"


While I am sure the misleading / false headline played well among TDS-suffering snowflakes on this board, it still remains a false misrepresentation of what the President stated and displays a complete ignorance of how Foreign Diplomacy is conducted.

The President did NOT declare his intent to initiate a kinetic war with Iran.

The President declared publicly that the Iranian tactic of using armed 'Swift Boats' to harass USN ships, violating set defensive zone parameters created for the ships' self-protection, will no longer be tolerated.

The public warning was to ensure Iran fully understood such aggression will no longer be tolerated.

This public warning was to give notice in front of the whole world that the US, without any doubt, warned Iran.


Iranian gun boats, or Swift Boats, operate in multiple / large numbers, practicing a tactic in which they surround harass / attack a ship, attempt to overwhelm the ship's defenses, and seek to affect an attack that damages the ship. USN ships have set defensive boundaries / safety zones that do not allow non-US ships inside of a certain range - doe their own defense. Iran gunboats regularly defy these and harass USN ships, sometimes getting dangerously close.

President Trump did not declare 'the start of a shooting war' or even a desire to do so'. He announced the US will implement new self-defense procedures / enforce existing recognized defense procedures. After this, if there is to be a shooting war it will be one Iran chose to start.


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[DOTR]

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Trump is an idiot with no understanding of leadership or diplomacy.

'Shoot them down"? They aren't aircraft.

What, boats can't shoot missles etc ? Are you serious or just hatin on Trump for no reason ?? They also have this idiocy going around that Trump told people to inject disenfectant into their bodies. Really ??? LOL... If he said it, we all know it was just him having a light hearted moment of laughter (joking), because undoubtedly someone ruffled his feathers in which caused him to bring the jokes as a way to show the utter stupidity within the questions being asked..

Yes he said you can inject disinfectant. He said that loud and clear that even Lysol responded immediately read the label.

How can you even deny that? He wasn’t talking to a reporter. He was talking to Brian and Birx. He was not joking. That vibrated all over America.

We are in the middle of a crisis to say something that STUPID? And he was joking?You are defending an idiot that is indefensible.

Like I just said earlier. Wrong or Wrong - - - - Lies or Lies. That’s cool Mr. Trump.

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If he said it, then it was for your consumption, and it appears that you ate it up hook, line, and sinker. LOL.

Did you take disinfectant for your delusional? Trump is the dumbest president that you can imagine to take disinfectant to kill CV. And you are blaming us as a joke? How dumb can you be to say that. So when this idiot is talking we supposed to figure out if he is lying and keep lying then filter whatever the fuck he is bullshiting? You have to be a real dumb as it is to post something like that.

If he had made the disinfectant comment it would have been dumb, but he did not say what you idiots are claiming.

why don't you take Biden's advise and "fire a shotgun out your back door"? Now that was dumb

Oh please. Go to thread that are discussing this topic.

Hows life in Iran? Btw you misspelled your supposed homectown in the US.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

There is the mad idea — others have commented on it — that serious differences should be dealt with by characterizing the other side as all “evil,” or “the Great Satan” (sound familiar?) and then (if you are powerful enough) trying to destroy that evil enemy by extreme (even self-defeating) acts.

Now I think every single person here could probably agree that the theocratic regime in Iran is pretty horrible, corrupt, and that it would be great if it were overthrown (or voted out) by a popular revolution led by more secular, more tolerant, political forces. But how can we make that happen when we humiliate all those factions and the popular hopes of the people who supported the JCPOA agreements ... torn up by the Trump administration? When we assassinate the most respected leader in the country, the “biggest terrorist in the Middle East” — LOL! — who would have won even a truly democratic election had he been a candidate instead of a military hero risking his life.

If you don’t understand why General Soleimani was far more popular than the corrupt theocratic politicians in office — despite him supporting and defending that regime 100% — then you just don’t understand Iranian reality. Not understanding or caring about Iranian reality, the U.S. will probably smash its own fingers if it tries to use its hammers against the hard nails it sees in Iran.

This is not to say that “extreme sanctions” and war brinksmanship or war itself can absolutely never ... “work.” But what about blowback? What about civil war there? Iran is not some helpless little Central American mini-state. It is a large and complex nation state. Even if there is to be a bloody “democratic” revolution there — a successful one — it needs to be organized around some center. Where is that center? That faction? That party? These are just some of the factors that make me oppose U.S. sanctions and military brinksmanship. Lastly, of course, there is the question of the real motivations for our “deep state” hostility to Iran, which I am convinced has nothing to do with the oppressive nature of the theocratic rule of the Iranian regime. But that is another story altogether.

p.s. easyt65 — I agree the headline is provocative. If it were not, probably nobody would even pay attention to this discussion!

pps. The best way to prevent Iranian motorboats from getting “close” to American naval vessels is just to keep our big ships away from their shores!

 

[dannyboys]

There is the mad idea — others have commented on it — that serious differences should be dealt with by characterizing the other side as all “evil,” or “the Great Satan” (sound familiar?) and then (if you are powerful enough) trying to destroy that evil enemy by extreme (even self-defeating) acts.

Now I think every single person here could probably agree that the theocratic regime in Iran is pretty horrible, corrupt, and that it would be great if it were overthrown (or even voted out) by a popular revolution led by more secular, more tolerant, political forces. But how can we make that happen when we humiliate all those factions and the popular hopes of the people who supported the JCPOA agreements ... torn up by the Trump administration? When we assassinate the most respected leader in the country, the “biggest terrorist in the Middle East” — LOL! — who would almost certainly have won a truly democratic election? If you don’t understand why General Soleimani was far more popular than the corrupt theocratic politicians in office — despite him supporting and defending that regime 100% — then you just don’t understand Iranian reality. Not understanding or caring about Iranian reality, the U.S. will probably smash its own fingers if it tries to use its hammers against the hard nails it sees in Iran.

This is not to say that “extreme sanctions” and war brinksmanship or war itself can absolutely never ... “work.” But what about blowback? What about civil war there? Iran is not some helpless little Central American mini-state. It is a large and complex nation state. Even if there is to be a bloody “democratic” revolution there — a successful one — it still would need to be organized around some center. Where is that center? That faction? That party? These are just some of the factors that make me oppose U.S. sanctions and military brinksmanship. Lastly, of course, there is the question of the real motivations for our “deep state” hostility to Iran, which I am convinced has nothing to do with the oppressive nature of the theocratic rule of the Iranian regime. But that is another story altogether.

p.s. easyt65 — I agree the headline is provocative. If it were not, probably nobody would even pay attention to this discussion!

pps. The best way to prevent Iranian motorboats from getting “close” to American naval vessels is just to keep our big ships away from their shores!

The 'General' had his nose stuck up the Mullah's assholes. He wouldn't take a leak without asking a Mullah first.
If the Mullahs ever get their filthy hands on a nuclear bomb the first thing they would do is attempt to drop it on Israel.

 

[easyt65]

pps. The best way to prevent Iranian motorboats from getting “close” to American naval vessels is just to keep our big ships away from their shores!

Iran seeks to control everything flowing in and out of the straight, especially US-flagged ships....and the gunboat tactics / harassment of US ships is not being conducted 'near their shores'. Its being done in International water.

Iran believes it is well within their right to conduct their 'military training' on live USN ships in International waters (great live training for Iran's military), where they have a right to be, and they do not acknowledge the self-defense boundaries / distances around USN ships...or at least ignore them. In one case a week ago one USN ship fire a warning shot against an Iranian Swift/Gunboat that got dangerously close to the ship...and they are becoming bolder.

The USN presence in the Gulf and through the Straight is to ensure freedom of navigation through international waters - INTERNATIONAL waters, not IRANIAN waters.