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It can get rough. Thats for sure.
It's not about "feeling safe." It's about a group that shares a COMMON INTEREST having a DISCUSSION without gnats buzzing around WITH THE INTENT of DISRUPTING A CONVERSATION.They are wanting to clean up the religion section so posters can feel safe posting in there
Seems everybody understands except the zombie followers of the cult of Atheism. Actually, we all know you understand, but the followers of that cult believe the only way to gain converts is by pissing on any thread that dares bring God into the conversation
Make up your mind. Are you actively 'converting' or are you sharing a common interest in discussion? It's important to make a distinction there, or at least be clear and intellectually honest in your intent, before just throwing up your victim status card there since moderation seems to be the topic here. Do you feel that moderation should serve as an asset or a utiluty to your efforts of conversion, asuming that's you're intent? Or do you just want them to break up fights when you call atheists a cult and when they call you a cult?It's not about "feeling safe." It's about a group that shares a COMMON INTEREST having a DISCUSSION without gnats buzzing around WITH THE INTENT of DISRUPTING A CONVERSATION.
They zap when you are not trolling and don't when you do. It's very clear.Seems 2 mods have disagreements about what "trolling" even means. One mod says its ok as long as you are trying to have a decent convo. The other says if your not jerking off the OP, its trolling. So I am confused. I guess the "trolling" definition is subjective? News to me.
I am not questioning mods actions. I am clarifying the rules. We ALL need to know them, right?
Thank You Cayote, our dedicated moderator who strives for the best in every ones posting experience.I think there is a certain degree of subjectivity in what is considered trolling, and some of it comes down to intent. If it is off topic and designed to disrupt or derail the conversation that could be trolling.
Hang on sloopy said something relevant in that as long as there is some relevant content, then anything goes. That is sort of true, but not completely.
For example, if you have one line of content, and follow up with two paragraphs describing the peculiar life of a member and his unique ability to perform unlikely anatomical contortions, that might not fly.
Is the content merely added to provide a vehicle for the flaming/trolling, or is the flaming there to spice up the content? If you structure it in such a way to force us to guess, and many purposely do like to walk the fine line, then you might not agree with our take.
In religion (I don’t go there often) I think trolling is largely people posting stuff solely to disrupt or provoke a reaction rather than present a point of view. Sometimes the OP itself is purposefully inflammatory and provokes the same in return so perhaps those are better moved elsewhere.
"the deliberate act, (by a Troll – noun or adjective), of making random unsolicited and/or controversial comments on various internet forums with the intent to provoke an emotional knee jerk reaction from unsuspecting readers to engage in a fight or argument."
Trolls don't care if it is off topic or not it is irrelevant anyway since their intention is to disrupt the thread with inflammatory statements and/or personal attacks that is why they do.I think there is a certain degree of subjectivity in what is considered trolling, and some of it comes down to intent. If it is off topic and designed to disrupt or derail the conversation that could be trolling.
Hang on sloopy said something relevant in that as long as there is some relevant content, then anything goes. That is sort of true, but not completely.
For example, if you have one line of content, and follow up with two paragraphs describing the peculiar life of a member and his unique ability to perform unlikely anatomical contortions, that might not fly.
Is the content merely added to provide a vehicle for the flaming/trolling, or is the flaming there to spice up the content? If you structure it in such a way to force us to guess, and many purposely do like to walk the fine line, then you might not agree with our take.
In religion (I don’t go there often) I think trolling is largely people posting stuff solely to disrupt or provoke a reaction rather than present a point of view. Sometimes the OP itself is purposefully inflammatory and provokes the same in return so perhaps those are better moved elsewhere.
I think it is because we are caught between determining whether it is free speech or trolling...for me personallt, it isn't so cut and dryTrolls don't care if it is off topic or not it is irrelevant anyway since their intention is to disrupt the thread with inflammatory statements and/or personal attacks that is why they do.
Trolling is not difficult to spot and isn't hard to see the damage it causes, it is the timidity of the Moderation of many forums is why it exist so much, the fear of being called a censor by members of the forum over material people post seems to slow them down.
I am always mystified in why Trolling posts seems so hard for Moderators to figure, it is one of the biggest failings of Moderators around the net, yet it is actually one of the easiest misbehavior to spot and stop.
I can spot it easily and delete it when I do my Moderation rounds, it is why the websites has a good reputation of keeping the threads intact.
I really don't understand why others can't figure it out..........
I think it is because we are caught between determining whether it is free speech or trolling...for me personallt, it isn't so cut and dry
Im not an atheist.It's not about "feeling safe." It's about a group that shares a COMMON INTEREST having a DISCUSSION without gnats buzzing around WITH THE INTENT of DISRUPTING A CONVERSATION.
Seems everybody understands except the zombie followers of the cult of Atheism. Actually, we all know you understand, but the followers of that cult believe the only way to gain converts is by pissing on any thread that dares bring God into the conversation
Isn't that the same as the shitlands?Apparently that isnt good enough in the religion section.
it's not like it matters. you can be here for a week or less and in that time you'll see posters who are nothing BUT trolls in every single post.Seems 2 mods have disagreements about what "trolling" even means. One mod says its ok as long as you are trying to have a decent convo. The other says if your not jerking off the OP, its trolling. So I am confused. I guess the "trolling" definition is subjective? News to me.
I am not questioning mods actions. I am clarifying the rules. We ALL need to know them, right?
and that is the hard part. i know what *I* consider trolling, but the world isn't about me. i would never want to be a mod and the 2 biggest reasons are - i *would* clamp down on people who simply drop snark time and time again and add nothing to the conversation.I think it is because we are caught between determining whether it is free speech or trolling...for me personallt, it isn't so cut and dry
Just plain fallacy would be trolling if I were a moderator.Seems 2 mods have disagreements about what "trolling" even means. One mod says its ok as long as you are trying to have a decent convo. The other says if your not jerking off the OP, its trolling. So I am confused. I guess the "trolling" definition is subjective? News to me.
I am not questioning mods actions. I am clarifying the rules. We ALL need to know them, right?