State challenging birthright citizenship order confident it can still win in court

[kyzr]

The fun part will be watching Republicans squeal when a Democratic President ignores lower court decisions and waits for the Supreme Court to decide

Not a serious concern.

There is no comparison between the number of lower court injunctions between Republicans and Democrats.

Trump has more than all other presidents COMBINED.

 

[JimH52]

The fun part will be watching Republicans squeal when a Democratic President ignores lower court decisions and waits for the Supreme Court to decide

Yes, that will be fun!

 

[meaner gene]

The issue will be moot when the next Democratic president rescinds the EO.

Actually it will make things worse.
Since it can't be rescinded retroactively, the status of those born under Trump will be an unknown..

 

[meaner gene]

Not a serious concern.

There is no comparison between the number of lower court injunctions between Republicans and Democrats.

Trump has more than all other presidents COMBINED.

That's because the courts, even the supreme court upheld more of them against Trump than any other president.

 

[HikerGuy83]

While the magats crow and cheer, the question of birthright citizenship is still unresolved.

Please pull out a map....find a very high cliff.....and do us all a favor.

Being associated with a bigoted asswipe like yourself is unhealthy for the rest of us.

Your only contribution to humanity will be if they compost you in a garden somewhere.

Birthright citizenship is being determined in court. I live with whatever decision comes down. Always have.

The fact that you can't help from acting like a petulant brat when things don't go your way isn't our issue.

Here is a website for finding maps:

Amazon.com : maps for sale

 

[meaner gene]

Citizenship is a federal jurisdiction, not state.

Not before, or since the 14th amendment.

Does the federal government issue birth certificatess?

AI Overview

No, there are no federal birth certificates issued in the United States. Birth certificates are issued by individual states and territories. While the federal government provides guidance and a standard application form (U.S. Standard Certificate of Live Birth), it does not issue the actual birth certificates that individuals use for identification.

 

[JimH52]

Not before, or since the 14th amendment.

Does the federal government issue birth certificatess?

AI Overview

No, there are no federal birth certificates issued in the United States. Birth certificates are issued by individual states and territories. While the federal government provides guidance and a standard application form (U.S. Standard Certificate of Live Birth), it does not issue the actual birth certificates that individuals use for identification.

trump may try to change that...the POS.

 

[Rogue AI]

Actually it will make things worse.
Since it can't be rescinded retroactively, the status of those born under Trump will be an unknown..

Not unknown, noncitizen.

 

[meaner gene]

Not unknown, noncitizen.

Not once they rule on the 14th.
Just like in the previous USSC case.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The Constitution does not empower the Office of the President to end birthright citizenship.,

 

[rightwinger]

Not a serious concern.

There is no comparison between the number of lower court injunctions between Republicans and Democrats.

Trump has more than all other presidents COMBINED.

Trump is ignoring the Constitution and daring the courts to do anything about it.

SCOTUS just says let him
Telling him to ignore lower court injunctions

 

[Rogue AI]

Not once they rule on the 14th.
Just like in the previous USSC case.

In October? Trump can deport people between now and then as noncitizens. That is what they are if they can be deported.

 

[meaner gene]

In October? Trump can deport people between now and then as noncitizens. That is what they are if they can be deported.

And like with child separation, when the USSC rules on the merit, if they uphold the 14th, who will bring all the US citizens back?

 

[meaner gene]

Like with the Garcia case, the court admits that they can't force the government to effectuate the return of US citizens.

 

[JimH52]

Trump is ignoring the Constitution and daring the courts to do anything about it.

SCOTUS just says let him
Telling him to ignore lower court injunctions

Exactly!

 

[JimH52]

Trump is ignoring the Constitution and daring the courts to do anything about it.

SCOTUS just says let him
Telling him to ignore lower court injunctions

It is almost like the justices are afraid of trump...like he is a Mafia Boss oe something....wait....

 

[Rogue AI]

And like with child separation, when the USSC rules on the merit, if they uphold the 14th, who will bring all the US citizens back?

They aren't citizens between now and some future ruling. That is the point. No reason to bring them back.

 

[rightwinger]

It is almost like the justices are afraid of trump...like he is a Mafia Boss oe something....wait....

They were selected to fill an agenda

They have moved from conservative to partisan

 

[kyzr]

Trump is ignoring the Constitution and daring the courts to do anything about it.

Trump has Article 2 Powers. Only the Supreme Court is co-equal.

SCOTUS just says let him

SCOTUS said: use class-action not district courts

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/27/politics/takeaways-birthright-citizenship-supreme-court-decision

Though the court significantly curtailed the ability of Trump’s legal foes to get the type of court orders that block or slow down his enforcement of various policies nationwide, the conservative justices left on the table one key legal avenue: class-action lawsuits in which a litigant sues on behalf of a larger group of similarly situated individuals to get relief for all people who could be potentially be affected by a policy.

Telling him to ignore lower court injunctions

See Article 2 Powers.

 

[JimH52]

They were selected to fill an agenda

They have moved from conservative to partisan

The more I learn about the USSC order and about the deliberations in May, the more I think the MAGA celebration may be short lived...at least in blue states. The ruling does not give credence to the order, itself. The ruling limits nationwide injunctions that block the EO.

It is very unlikely that the USSC will rule in favor of the merits of the EO, but they want lower courts to provide guidance, at least those already involved in litigation. What happen to trump's EO after a Dem president is elected...it goes away.

I thought the damage that trump has inflicted on this country could not be more devastating., I was wrong. trump has damaged our democracy more than anyone or thing, since perhaps, even before the Civil War. He is evil in the Oval office.