Speaking of "socialism," isn't tax cuts for the rich and tax sheltering a form of socialism?

[progressive hunter]

Or am I just exaggerating like most Republicans do when they scream socialism and China at everything?

Tax cuts for the rich is not a good idea until we get our spending under control. Getting rid of corporate welfare, cut spending by 25% across the board, and then raise taxes on all Americans, we got there together, we need to dig ourselves out together.

we didnt get there together,, we were forced by dems and repubes,, they should pay the difference,,

While I don't disagree, it is going to take everyone to get us out of this mess. We really need to start by cutting government spending but Congress won't do the unpopular, party over country is their motto.

unless fed government is cut by minimum of 50% everything else is a waste of time,,

I tend to agree, I have been calling for a 25% cut however people hate the thought of their money drying up.

Calling for 25% or 50% cutting is easy to say, but very hard to do. In fact nearly impossible. But that is not something that will happen, but what needs to be considered is what cuts will be a cost-benefit or a cost-deficit?

cutting really easy,, you just do it,,

No wonder you supported dumb donald, neither you nor he considers the consequences by "just" doing it.

Let's consider a large cut of the Federal Government. Do you understand that much of the spending goes to salaries, and would require massive job cuts? And can you understand the consequences of this singular event? Hint: See what is happening now of those those who worked on Main Street, long lines for these unemployed to get food from Food Banks, and unable to pay their rent or mortgage.

I didnt support trump,, one reason was because he refuse to cut spending,,,

Name a politicritter that actually does.

rand paul,,

Has he actually been successful, or does he just talk about it?

you didnt ask for successful,,,

he votes that way,,

See, that's the difference. Politicos talk a good game about cutting spending. Mostly they're all full of shit.

he and a few others do more than talk,, they vote that way which several did this in last stimulus,,

 

[Papageorgio]

See, that's the difference. Politicos talk a good game about cutting spending. Mostly they're all full of shit.

What BS, how is the guy supposed to cut spending when he is the only one that is willing to do so? You honestly think that he can write up a bill, take into Congress and get enough votes to pass it? He has lobbied for it, he has pushed others for it however being one of 535 is not going to get the job done. We need to vote in more like him.

Most every politician in DC is wanting to spend more, not cut spending.

 

[bripat9643]

Or am I just exaggerating like most Republicans do when they scream socialism and China at everything?

tax cuts are a sign of freedom,, because it allows you to keep more of your money and not give it to the government,,

So you're admitting trickle down is a lie and excuse to push tax cuts?

The term "trickle down" is commie propaganda. Republicans certainly never use it.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

What BS, how is the guy supposed to cut spending when he is the only one that is willing to do so? You honestly think that he can write up a bill, take into Congress and get enough votes to pass it?

Nope, and I don't know where you pulled that out of your rectum.

He has lobbied for it, he has pushed others for it however being one of 535 is not going to get the job done

You're explaining the obvious.

Most every politician in DC is wanting to spend more, not cut spending.

No shit.

 

[Papageorgio]

What BS, how is the guy supposed to cut spending when he is the only one that is willing to do so? You honestly think that he can write up a bill, take into Congress and get enough votes to pass it?

Nope, and I don't know where you pulled that out of your rectum.

He has lobbied for it, he has pushed others for it however being one of 535 is not going to get the job done

You're explaining the obvious.

Most every politician in DC is wanting to spend more, not cut spending.

No shit.

Wrong again. Thanks for trying to play.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

What BS, how is the guy supposed to cut spending when he is the only one that is willing to do so? You honestly think that he can write up a bill, take into Congress and get enough votes to pass it?

Nope, and I don't know where you pulled that out of your rectum.

He has lobbied for it, he has pushed others for it however being one of 535 is not going to get the job done

You're explaining the obvious.

Most every politician in DC is wanting to spend more, not cut spending.

No shit.

Wrong again. Thanks for trying to play.

Are you impaired in some way?

 

[Papageorgio]

Are you impaired in some way?

I was thinking the same of you, you have always seemed a little off but I think you are a full on stupid moron. Take care of yourself and try not to spread it to anyone else.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Are you impaired in some way?

I was thinking the same of you, you have always seemed a little off but I think you are a full on stupid moron. Take care of yourself and try not to spread it to anyone else.

I just ignore morons like you with zero reading comprehension skills.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Or am I just exaggerating like most Republicans do when they scream socialism and China at everything?

Or am I just exaggerating like most Republicans do when they scream socialism and China at everything?

Republicans will always defend corporate welfare.

Or am I just exaggerating like most Republicans do when they scream socialism and China at everything?

I understand what you are implying (or think I do) but neither are actually socialism. The right tend to call things like Medicare "socialism" even though not only are they not really socialistic but the people decrying them are often getting benefits from what they complain of.

Tax cuts and shelters are just legal means to allow people benefitting from social spending to continue to benefit while paying less, while their fellow citizens pay the same, or even more. That's why "conservatives" like Reagan or Goldwater want the tax base to be as broad as possible, so everyone "has skin in the game" as Obama put it. The rub comes from the fact that the left wants the richer to pay a greater % while the right sometimes concedes that progressive taxes are good, but then like Moscow Mitch use the dark of night to cover up tax cuts that provide greater benefit per citizen to those with more money.

Medicare is not socialism. IF you live in Fla or Ariz retirement communities, likely your doctor will treat you with the same stuff you'd get in NYC, but for a lot less. Medicaid might sort of be more like real socialism because pretty much every doc gets what the state says he gets per procedure …. but not everybody is on Medicaid. Obama's Medicaid expansion was one reason I didn't like Obamacare. But to be fair, gop pols are pretty open to expanding Medicaid so long as they can levy taxes on consumers of booze and smokes and stuff like that.

You twisted Tards make the same mistake over and over again...how many times must it be explained to you?
A tax break is not taxpayer funded "FREE SHIT"....lowering the effective tax rate and allowing productive folks to keep more of what they EARN can not be considered a gift of free shit by anybody even half sane.
Robbing the treasury to pay ShaQuita and Guadalupe to run their baby factories and produce more of their filthy unproductive same IS taxpayer funded free shit or socialism.
Do you really struggle with making the distinction?

 

[beautress]

Or am I just exaggerating like most Republicans do when they scream socialism and China at everything?

Nobody is "screaming." This is a board that allows discussing politics from numerous povs and within the rules page the mods uphold, to their credit.

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