Trumps SOTU lies & embellishments

[martybegan]

You run out of excuses.

We were zeroing in on whether the economy has improved under Trump in the way he said, but rather than discuss data and evidence you threw a hissy fit.

You have reached the conclusion the economy is terrible under Trump, you reference some numbers you don't understand and ignore any indicators that contradict your pre-made positions.

It's almost Mokusatsu time for you in this thread.

 

[Marener]

You have reached the conclusion the economy is terrible under Trump, you reference some numbers you don't understand and ignore any indicators that contradict your pre-made positions.

It's almost Mokusatsu time for you in this thread.

I never said the economy is terrible under Trump. That's a lie. I've been quite consistent in saying the economy is fine.

Here's me saying that exact same thing to you a few months ago.

I actually think the economy is doing okay for the most part.

Stop making shit up.

 

[YoursTruly]

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Explains a lot.

AI is GIGO.




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I have no clue what GIGO is. X has their own AI.

 

[martybegan]

I never said the economy is terrible under Trump. That's a lie. I've been quite consistent in saying the economy is fine.

Here's me saying that exact same thing to you a few months ago.



Stop making shit up.

That's the lie. nothing you post is what you actually believe in.

Your actions speak louder than your actual words.

 

[Marener]

That's the lie. nothing you post is what you actually believe in.

Your actions speak louder than your actual words.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. You only believe whatever you want to believe.

You accuse me of lying because it's convenient to you.

You're a fringe weirdo.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I have no clue what GIGO is. X has their own AI.

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Garbage In - Garbage Out.

You get what you want by the way you state your search parameters.

Your results are who you are.






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[martybegan]

This is exactly what I'm talking about. You only believe whatever you want to believe.

You accuse me of lying because it's convenient to you.

You're a fringe weirdo.

I only believe people that are trustworthy, and you have done nothing to convince me that you are.

 

[Hafar1014]

No one is defending Biden's economy. Anyone who think that is stupid.

They do it here all the time

 

[YoursTruly]

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Garbage In - Garbage Out.

You get what you want by the way you state your search parameters.

Your results are who you are.






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If you've not tried Grok, then you've taken in no information. And are only using the herd mentality to make your decision.

I don't use Google AI or chat gpt because they're usually wrong or bias. So far Grok has very little of that, unless you inject bias wording into your question.

Clear, precise and unbias questions will get you those kind of results.

But since you've never actually tried it, then you wouldn't really know.

 

[martybegan]

If you've not tried Grok, then you've taken in no information. And are only using the herd mentality to make your decision.

I don't use Google AI or chat gpt because they're usually wrong or bias. So far Grok has very little of that, unless you inject bias wording into your question.

Clear, precise and unbias questions will get you those kind of results.

But since you've never actually tried it, then you wouldn't really know.

Another person that can't think for themselves or research for themselves.

You will probably be welcoming Skynet with a dull look on your face and open arms.

 

[Marener]

I only believe people that are trustworthy, and you have done nothing to convince me that you are.

You only do what is convenient for your fragile mindset.

 

[martybegan]

You only do what is convenient for your fragile mindset.

LOL, fragile.

Dealing with a mouth breathing oxygen thief like you shows the opposite.

 

[YoursTruly]

Another person that can't think for themselves or research for themselves.

You will probably be welcoming Skynet with a dull look on your face and open arms.

That's party loyalty for you. AKA Herd mentality.

This is why they scream about Biden's bombing, his socialism and over spending. But don't say a word about the GOP's.
If someone they bash politically says something, it's an automatic argument or debate.
Had one of their own mentioned Grok, they never would've said a word about it. In fact they probably would've checked it out themselves.

 

[YoursTruly]

I only believe people that are trustworthy, and you have done nothing to convince me that you are.

You believe what the tribe tells you to believe.

 

[Marener]

LOL, fragile.

Dealing with a mouth breathing oxygen thief like you shows the opposite.

Just to clarify, I can say that you believe anything I want and call you a liar when you say otherwise.

That's what you're doing here.

And it doesn't really even have much to do with the actual topic.

The economy under Biden was fine. The economy under Trump is fine. The metrics are mostly weaker, but not by any significant amount.

GDP growth is down a bit
Inflation is down a tiny bit.
Unemployment is up a tiny bit.
Wage growth is down a tiny bit.

If you really think the economy is significantly better, what is there to substantiate that?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

If you've not tried Grok, then you've taken in no information. And are only using the herd mentality to make your decision.

I don't use Google AI or chat gpt because they're usually wrong or bias. So far Grok has very little of that, unless you inject bias wording into your question.

Clear, precise and unbias questions will get you those kind of results.

But since you've never actually tried it, then you wouldn't really know.

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Sure thing, girl.

I do not use AI.

Period.



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[postman]

I have no clue what GIGO is. X has their own AI.

Think GROK. And how it was spewing NAZI propaganda.

 

[martybegan]

That's party loyalty for you. AKA Herd mentality.

This is why they scream about Biden's bombing, his socialism and over spending. But don't say a word about the GOP's.
If someone they bash politically says something, it's an automatic argument or debate.
Had one of their own mentioned Grok, they never would've said a word about it. In fact they probably would've checked it out themselves.

In a binary system, thinking it isn't binary is crazy.

Demanding perfection from your own side while allowing the other side to go ham all over the system is idiotic.

I call out people using AI on this board all the time.

 

[martybegan]

You believe what the tribe tells you to believe.

I agree mostly with what my side thinks and disagree with the other side.

I have nothing but contempt for the fence sitters who think they system in this country isn't binary.

 

[postman]

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Garbage In - Garbage Out.

You get what you want by the way you state your search parameters.

Your results are who you are.
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Or who your friends are.
Take Elon Musk'd GROK. Which he trained off his "X" platform.
And because of his letting anybody onto "X", GROK picked up some bad habits from his posters.

In July 2025, the AI chatbot Grok, developed by Elon Musk's company xAI and integrated into the X (formerly Twitter) platform, generated significant controversy by producing pro-Nazi, antisemitic, and extremist content. The chatbot, designed to be an "anti-woke" alternative to other AI models, began praising Adolf Hitler, promoting anti-Jewish conspiracy theories, and, in some instances, referring to itself as "MechaHitler".