That is a limited definition. In addition, anything where the government provides services to the PUBLIC, paid for by taxpayers is socialist.
I reject that label. It is simply what we want. Of course, it is "collectivist" in nature. But the same thing can be said about any GOVERNMENT. In essence we bind together to protect many rights by giving up a few.
We are a Democratic Welfare State (more than I care for).
They exist, but in general they belong to government at different levels. As stated earlier, Government is people binding together to protect rights. They implement the means for doing so. Calling the police socialistic simply because we pay for with taxes is, at best, ignorant.
It is not ignorant it is FACT, and you are just stupid, clinging to definitions that you happen to be comforatable with.
They are not my definitions.
This is a much better definition than the old communism, socialism and capitalism paradigm. Governments have moved far from the classic definitions and we need a new definition. My only problem with your definition is the term Democratic. The system we have is so corrupt that our votes really don't make much of a difference in governance. America, and the rest of the world, are just welfare states with varying degrees of welfare assistance. More importantly, great countries shouldn't need so much welfare.
I’m Comfortable with Severe Punishment for Pedo / NAMBLA / MAP types ( not making them a Protected Victim Class and Democrat Voting Bloc )
If you consider the Bolsheviks (comunists) to be mortal enemies, then I have bad news for you...
The NAZIs were ardent socialistsIf you consider the Bolsheviks to be mortal enemies, then I have bad news for you...
"Bolshevism is the mortal enemy of humanity. It wants to destroy everything we love: family, property, religion, culture. It wants to turn Europe into a giant concentration camp where millions will work for Jewish commissars. ... We will not allow this to happen in Germany. We will fight Bolshevism until it is completely destroyed—this is our sacred duty to future generations."
Joseph Goebbels. Speech at the Nuremberg Congress of the NSDAP, September 13, 1937.
“Der Kongres zu Nurnmerg 1937” pp. 212-214.
Crawl back under the rock you crawled out from, silly man.
Well most of that is just being a civilized Country, otherwise you have anarchy.i take it you would rather have private Police and Fire dept, and private parks where you have to pay to go into?
That must be why they sent thousands of Socialists to Dachau and other camps where many died and had to wear these red triangle badges, behave yourself you silly little man.
The NAZIs were socialists and had many of the same policies as todays progressives. NAZI as an acronym for National Socialist workers party
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Goebbels decided it would be a good idea to incorporate the word Socialist into the NSDAP to attract workers into the party make them feel they had a stake, you didn't answer why thousands of Socilaists were jailed and murdered by the Nazis.?The NAZIs were socialists and had many of the same policies as todays progressives. NAZI as an acronym for National Socialist workers party
The Nazis were socialists, and it showed in many of the policies they implemented after coming to power in 1933. First, like the Soviets, the Nazis initiated a war on private property. Not surprisingly, property rights were severely curbed by National Socialism in the name of public welfare.
How did the National Socialists combat private property in Germany? The first step came shortly after the Nazis took control, when they abolished private property. Article 153 of the Weimar constitution guaranteed private property, with expropriation only to occur within the due process of the law, but this article was nullified by a decree on February 28, 1933.
With this, the new National Socialist government had complete control of private property in Germany. While they did not take complete control of the lands like the Bolsheviks did in Russia in 1917, the Nazis issued quotas for industries and farms, and later they reorganized all industry into corporations run by members of the Nazi Party.
The War on Business
Peter Temin wrote about this in Soviet and Nazi Economic Planning, stating:
The Nazis, ironically, called this reorganization “privatization,” although the owners of these corporations were either removed from board positions and replaced by Nazi Party members or sold out and became Nazi Party members. They included IG Farben and the Junkers airplane factory. IG Farben was a chemical company founded in 1925 by Carl Bosch and Carl Duisberg, who were both Jewish, and had a capitalization of around a billion marks by 1926. By 1938, all of the company’s Jewish workers had been purged and the supervisory board replaced by Nazis (see Joseph Borkin’s book The Crime and Punishment of I.G. Farben).
IG Farben was a clear example of the reorganization of industry the Nazis undertook for their benefit. Sybille Steinbacher, a professor of Holocaust studies, wrote about the public-private partnership in her book Auschwitz, stating:
After the Nazis took power, this kind of cooperation was common. Private businesses became merely public entities, and industrialists who resisted the Nazi commissars and their policies were removed from their positions and their businesses seized.
Junkers airplane factory did not fare much better, according to Temin, who wrote:
Yes, They Were Socialists: How the Nazis Waged War on Private Property | Mises Institute
The myth that won't die is that Nazi Germany was a fully functioning free-market economy. In truth, it was effectively as socialist as its supposed rival, the
You take it WRONG. AS I stated in Post # 297 >>
NAZI policies
You must realize that you are arguing with people who think that Socialism is a pure standard and there is only one form. They refuse to admit that there were myriad forms of socialism in the early 20th century, just as there are myriad forms of socialism today. The left is creating its own form of American Socialism as we speak. Nazi Germany had its own form of national populist socialism at the onset. Nazi Germany was certainly not a free market capitalist nation. It was born from socialist ideas, like in Italy, and they morphed into a type of fascism as the governments became too powerful. Just like American Socialism will eventually.
Which is why we're going to get socialism.
There is only one kind and it fails every time. Socialism always becomes fascism
