socialism Destroys Another Country

[francoHFW]

Strasser was more blue collar, homosexual, violent, wanting to take the place of the army kind of whack job. Hitler no longer needed the street thugs, went with th army the night of the long knives...Not socialist either...lol

 

[emilynghiem]

Fail rate -- 100% and counting. And to think some of our resident geniuses are pushing this style of government...... Incredible.

Every time, every single time, socialism is tried it fails. Spectacularly.

Every Freedom-Loving American predicted this the minute that scumbag 'Ugo took over (may he roast in hell). And now?

Now look at what they've done.

Pretty words can only do so much. And you eventually run out of other people's money

Venezuela Descends Into Madness, Rioting And Hysteria

But …Socialism….

Via Daily Beast:

“I want to get out of here. I want to leave this country as soon as possible and never come back.”

The text from my friend Luis surprised me. A lawyer by training, he got his masters in urban planning from an elite Manhattan university, and had returned to Venezuela full of hope. He was hired by a local NGO working on poverty abatement issues. But now, he’s fed up.

“Nothing works. There are lines to buy everything. Prices have gone through the roof. You can’t go out at night for fear of getting shot. If you want to get married, finding a place to live is impossible. The country has become unlivable.”

Luis’s story is a depressingly common one on the streets of Venezuela’s major urban centers. The nation’s young people are tired of enduring one of the world’s highest inflation rates, highest murder rates, scarcity of basic staples like toilet paper, and the near certainty that things are going to get worse before they get better. A few days ago, the Associated Press reported on Venezuelans camping on the sidewalk to get information about emigrating to Ireland.

This is more a failure of conservative Catholicism and anti-abortion.

Too many people, no industry, no jobs.

What a woman told me was going on there, because her son moved there to be with his family but she was begging him to move back to America:

the dictating/political powers in charge have empowered their mobs to take over malls and given out TV to appease the masses to keep them under their control.

there is no check on govt, so the parties in charge run things for their benefit at the expense of all else. it is corrupt, dangerous, and run by mob politics.

the pacifists I know who believe in socialism or communism by choice are against this same oppression from top down political abuse of power to control resources for the few.

we are opposed to the same corruption in either system.
you can blame socialism or capitalism for opening the door to political abuse,
but in the end it is the abuse of power to control resources for the selfish few
that the masses rebel against. this cycle happened in the foundation of our
country also, and we are still going through the cycles in different stages today.

until all people are equally educated and empowered to govern themselves
and manage their own resources and economy, we aer going to see these
cycles of too much power concentrated i the hands of the few at the top
whether it is socialism, capitalism, or militant Islamic parties taking ovre govt.

the solution is still checks and balances, redressing grievances and working
independently to rebuild our own local systems of managing resources and representation of interests. people can be of any religion or political label, and want local autonomy.

 

[francoHFW]

Reports to be taken with a grain of salt....difficult to go from semi-fascist plutocracy oil/banana republic to real democracy...Next election I expect a more centrist victory.

 

[Kosh]

The far left takes pride in destroying countries with their detached from reality beliefs. Even the worst terrorist organization could not hope for better results than far left rule.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Why is it American libs support ruthless tyranny?

3 EU countries went up in flames
mexico sucks so bad people risk crossing the desert to get here
Ven has vast riots


jeezuz, and these people claim their name comes from liberty

 

[Two Thumbs]

Fail rate -- 100% and counting. And to think some of our resident geniuses are pushing this style of government...... Incredible.

Every time, every single time, socialism is tried it fails. Spectacularly.

Every Freedom-Loving American predicted this the minute that scumbag 'Ugo took over (may he roast in hell). And now?

Now look at what they've done.

Pretty words can only do so much. And you eventually run out of other people's money

Venezuela Descends Into Madness, Rioting And Hysteria

But …Socialism….

Via Daily Beast:

“I want to get out of here. I want to leave this country as soon as possible and never come back.”

The text from my friend Luis surprised me. A lawyer by training, he got his masters in urban planning from an elite Manhattan university, and had returned to Venezuela full of hope. He was hired by a local NGO working on poverty abatement issues. But now, he’s fed up.

“Nothing works. There are lines to buy everything. Prices have gone through the roof. You can’t go out at night for fear of getting shot. If you want to get married, finding a place to live is impossible. The country has become unlivable.”

Luis’s story is a depressingly common one on the streets of Venezuela’s major urban centers. The nation’s young people are tired of enduring one of the world’s highest inflation rates, highest murder rates, scarcity of basic staples like toilet paper, and the near certainty that things are going to get worse before they get better. A few days ago, the Associated Press reported on Venezuelans camping on the sidewalk to get information about emigrating to Ireland.

This is more a failure of conservative Catholicism and anti-abortion.

Too many people, no industry, no jobs.

and there it is.

cons have no power in Ven, but it's their fault.


just more proof how childishly ignorant libs are

 

[Two Thumbs]

I couldn't give a shytte what you think, morons. The rest of the modern world thinks Dems are center right, and the GOP are dangerous ugly American nutjobs/savage capitalist/chickenhawk a-holes...SHHH......

doesn't care what his fellow Americans think
but cares what people that don't care about him think

 

[ScienceRocks]

It always does

Has more to do with who controls production...We're not a Marxist centralized state as we have a private sector. Some level of socialism is good as we elected the government to things for us...Like make sure the private sector doesn't screw us over(overcharging) or allowing for a safety net in case we're layed off of our job. Most Americans won't accept going back to the 1930's Don't taz me bro...That's just a fact.

Americans want their tax dollars going towards maintaining the roads, bridges and a first rate national weather service to warn of severe meteorological events. Stop thinking of reality as it was in the 1790..Time to come into the 21st century Not everything within society needs to be ran by profit and that's one of the reasons not everything can be ran by the private sector....Warning people of extreme weather = 1, using our tax dollars to maintain roads, bridges and infrastructure is 2.

Of course of this can be done more at the local level

 

[Two Thumbs]

HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST IS THE STUPIDEST TP REVISIONISM LATELY...''DANGEROUS DRIVEL''- the Economist. The rest of the world rolls its eyes, Beckbot. He was a militarist, super-nationalist, racist megalomaniac- none of which is socialist, shyttehead. Idiot.

I learned he was a socialist in grade school history class.


course, liberals need to claim he wasn't now, b/c they reflect so many of his values.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Fail rate -- 100% and counting. And to think some of our resident geniuses are pushing this style of government...... Incredible.

Every time, every single time, socialism is tried it fails. Spectacularly.

Every Freedom-Loving American predicted this the minute that scumbag 'Ugo took over (may he roast in hell). And now?

Now look at what they've done.

Pretty words can only do so much. And you eventually run out of other people's money

Venezuela Descends Into Madness, Rioting And Hysteria

But …Socialism….

Via Daily Beast:

This is more a failure of conservative Catholicism and anti-abortion.

Too many people, no industry, no jobs.

and there it is.

cons have no power in Ven, but it's their fault.


just more proof how childishly ignorant libs are

Dude,

The place is a dictatorship that controls the economy from top to bottom. This is how a Marxist state looks like....So you hate regulations, nws, cia, military, nasa, faa, fcc, epa, cdc, ssd, ssi....Well, the majority of the American people disagree with you.

 

[Sallow]

Why is it American libs support ruthless tyranny?

3 EU countries went up in flames
mexico sucks so bad people risk crossing the desert to get here
Ven has vast riots


jeezuz, and these people claim their name comes from liberty

It isn't liberals that support and or foster this sort of crap, it's conservatives.

What do you think Venezuela was before Chavez? A Paradise?

Or any country that either went socialist or communist.

What they were, were places where wealth was so concentrated that people were literally dying in the streets.

Revolutions don't happen because people are happy, ace.

And supporting Kings and Dictators inevitably leads to a popular revolt.

 

[Two Thumbs]

This is more a failure of conservative Catholicism and anti-abortion.

Too many people, no industry, no jobs.

and there it is.

cons have no power in Ven, but it's their fault.


just more proof how childishly ignorant libs are

Dude,

The place is a dictatorship that controls the economy from top to bottom. This is how a Marxist state looks like....So you hate regulations, nws, cia, military, nasa, faa, fcc, epa, cdc, ssd, ssi....Well, the majority of the American people disagree with you.

you don't know shit about me

but I see that you're cool with the lose of freedom.

pfft

It wasn't real socialism!!!

called it in my original post, leftist calling the failure of socialism, something they support, something else, w/o ever learning that's how it ends eventually.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Why is it American libs support ruthless tyranny?

3 EU countries went up in flames
mexico sucks so bad people risk crossing the desert to get here
Ven has vast riots


jeezuz, and these people claim their name comes from liberty

It isn't liberals that support and or foster this sort of crap, it's conservatives.

What do you think Venezuela was before Chavez? A Paradise?

Or any country that either went socialist or communist.

What they were, were places where wealth was so concentrated that people were literally dying in the streets.

Revolutions don't happen because people are happy, ace.

And supporting Kings and Dictators inevitably leads to a popular revolt.

Social democratic system like most of Europe is the perfect balance....One that allows for a strong private sector but with strong regulations.

Extremes are bad.

 

[ScienceRocks]

and there it is.

cons have no power in Ven, but it's their fault.


just more proof how childishly ignorant libs are

Dude,

The place is a dictatorship that controls the economy from top to bottom. This is how a Marxist state looks like....So you hate regulations, nws, cia, military, nasa, faa, fcc, epa, cdc, ssd, ssi....Well, the majority of the American people disagree with you.

you don't know shit about me

but I see that you're cool with the lose of freedom.

pfft

It wasn't real socialism!!!

called it in my original post, leftist calling the failure of socialism, something they support, something else, w/o ever learning that's how it ends eventually.

You think most of this country was free at the turn of the 20st century? Most of the people were slaves to the barons and were treated worse off then Chinese sweat shop slaves.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Lose of freedoms? A strong safety net allows you not to die on the street to name a freedom that the common joe has today. Granny and gramps can rely on ssi to keep them warm, happy and healthy for close to 80 years on avg today. Do you realize people didn't live on avg more then 60-65 before ssi. See it had the effect on making peoples lives better. Morality is something you anti-government people should consider.

The nws, nhc and the knowledge gained from nasa has allowed us to advance like no were else on earth. Do you realize thousands of people died before our friends at nasa started sending satellites into space or the nws constructed radar???? Tornadoes use to kill hundreds of people all the time...Thank god for the nws! Believe me this isn't the time or place to think about goddamn profit.

So you're saying we shouldn't pay taxes to pave the roads or construct bridges. Do you people believe that government should do anything??? Why even elect a government if so....Read some political science and understand why our system is so damn good. Does it need to be balanced in some area's? Yes...

 

[TemplarKormac]

Dude,

The place is a dictatorship that controls the economy from top to bottom. This is how a Marxist state looks like....So you hate regulations, nws, cia, military, nasa, faa, fcc, epa, cdc, ssd, ssi....Well, the majority of the American people disagree with you.

you don't know shit about me

but I see that you're cool with the lose of freedom.

pfft

It wasn't real socialism!!!

called it in my original post, leftist calling the failure of socialism, something they support, something else, w/o ever learning that's how it ends eventually.

You think most of this country was free at the turn of the 20st century? Most of the people were slaves to the barons and were treated worse off then Chinese sweat shop slaves.

So, anything other than socialism is regarded as slavery. Real smart there bub.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Fail rate -- 100% and counting. And to think some of our resident geniuses are pushing this style of government...... Incredible.

Every time, every single time, socialism is tried it fails. Spectacularly.

Every Freedom-Loving American predicted this the minute that scumbag 'Ugo took over (may he roast in hell). And now?

Now look at what they've done.

Pretty words can only do so much. And you eventually run out of other people's money

Venezuela Descends Into Madness, Rioting And Hysteria

But …Socialism….

Via Daily Beast:

“I want to get out of here. I want to leave this country as soon as possible and never come back.”

The text from my friend Luis surprised me. A lawyer by training, he got his masters in urban planning from an elite Manhattan university, and had returned to Venezuela full of hope. He was hired by a local NGO working on poverty abatement issues. But now, he’s fed up.

“Nothing works. There are lines to buy everything. Prices have gone through the roof. You can’t go out at night for fear of getting shot. If you want to get married, finding a place to live is impossible. The country has become unlivable.”

Luis’s story is a depressingly common one on the streets of Venezuela’s major urban centers. The nation’s young people are tired of enduring one of the world’s highest inflation rates, highest murder rates, scarcity of basic staples like toilet paper, and the near certainty that things are going to get worse before they get better. A few days ago, the Associated Press reported on Venezuelans camping on the sidewalk to get information about emigrating to Ireland.

Ya, and perpetuating the deception that one country's "socialism" is akin to every other gets applause from similarly intellectually-challenged folks. Unfortunately, everyone knows European 'socialism' style countries are consistently ranked in the top 10 of world's happiest countries. And when Forbes is the one doing the ranking, you can hardly cry foul.


"Denmark, Norway, Switzerland, the Netherlands and Sweden are the world's happiest countries, according to the survey of 156 countries. Rwanda, Burundi, the Central African Republic, Benin and Togo -- all nations in Sub-Saharan Africa -- are the least satisfied with their lives, the report said.

The United States came in at number 17 in the world in terms of overall happiness, but it still lags behind Canada (6), Australia (10), Israel (11) the United Arab Emirates (14) and Mexico (16), according to the Earth Institute.

The report ranks the United Kingdom as the 22nd happiest country in the world. Other major nations included Germany (26), Japan (43), Russia (68) and China (93)."
World's happiest nations are... - CNN.com
First World Happiness Report Launched at the United Nations - The Earth Institute - Columbia University

 

[Sallow]

you don't know shit about me

but I see that you're cool with the lose of freedom.

pfft

It wasn't real socialism!!!

called it in my original post, leftist calling the failure of socialism, something they support, something else, w/o ever learning that's how it ends eventually.

You think most of this country was free at the turn of the 20st century? Most of the people were slaves to the barons and were treated worse off then Chinese sweat shop slaves.

So, anything other than socialism is regarded as slavery. Real smart there bub.

You really should have a look at history prior to the communist and socialist countries you seem to like to criticize to no end.

 

[TemplarKormac]

You think most of this country was free at the turn of the 20st century? Most of the people were slaves to the barons and were treated worse off then Chinese sweat shop slaves.

So, anything other than socialism is regarded as slavery. Real smart there bub.

You really should have a look at history prior to the communist and socialist countries you seem to like to criticize to no end.

Nature abhors a vacuum Sallow. That was the only system available to them. And are you admitting that you want America to be socialist? Am I getting this right?

 

[ScienceRocks]

you don't know shit about me

but I see that you're cool with the lose of freedom.

pfft

It wasn't real socialism!!!

called it in my original post, leftist calling the failure of socialism, something they support, something else, w/o ever learning that's how it ends eventually.

You think most of this country was free at the turn of the 20st century? Most of the people were slaves to the barons and were treated worse off then Chinese sweat shop slaves.

So, anything other than socialism is regarded as slavery. Real smart there bub.

So we shouldn't regulate any part of our economy? Is that what you're saying???? I bet you'd disagree with paying taxes for infrastructure like paving your road and making sure the bridge down the street has strong supports.