socialism Destroys Another Country

Socialist. Not a communist. I do believe in private property.

Socialists don't believe in private property. But then, neither do you. You just admitted that you approved of Maduro shutting down private businesses because they charged prices he didn't like.
 
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“Nothing works. There are lines to buy everything. Prices have gone through the roof. You can’t go out at night for fear of getting shot. If you want to get married, finding a place to live is impossible. The country has become unlivable.”

THIS is the core essence of socialism. and they did not have labor camps and millions slaughtered - YET.

It never works.
 
The US, without middle class bail-outs, would have fared better?
And the bail-out have rewarded the bailed-out and not the bailers.

remind me when was middle class EVER bailed out? :cuckoo:

or you mean big pockets and wall street bandits?
 
Socialist. Not a communist. I do believe in private property.

Socialists don't believe in private property. But then, neither do you. You just admitted that you approved of Maduro shutting down private businesses because they charged prices he didn't like.

Socialist. Not a communist. I do believe in private property.

dude, you might benefit from learning the basics. there is no private property in socialism.

communism never existed.
Both of you are wrong. Private property does exist in Socialism. Look it up.

Just an excerpt

The answer is a society where the means of production—factories, mines, railroads, the energy sources, all things used to create new wealth—are owned publicly, not privately. And that means socialism—a society where private property has been abolished.

Here’s where there is the most confusion about socialism. Those who really do benefit from capitalism will lie and tell you that under socialism you can’t have your own PERSONAL property. You can’t own your own home or your own boat, etc.

The truth is that your personal property—what you need to enjoy a secure and comfortable life—is a lot safer under socialism than under capitalism.
 
Both of you are wrong. Private property does exist in Socialism. Look it up.

No it does not.
socialism by definition is an absence of private property for the means of production. PERIOD.

now, don' feed me your sleazy leftist progressivist blurring the lines and labeling socialism on something which is not even CLOSE to it.
 
Obama is actually a pragmatic centrist, the GOP whacko nutjobs at this point lol...Obama hasn't been able to even get any compromises passed fer chrissakes...
 
Both of you are wrong. Private property does exist in Socialism. Look it up.

No it does not.
socialism by definition is an absence of private property for the means of production. PERIOD.

now, don' feed me your sleazy leftist progressivist blurring the lines and labeling socialism on something which is not even CLOSE to it.

Now you are getting warmer. You are correct its the absence of private property for the means of production. Not the absence of private property for vehicles,homes,personal property etc. All ya gotta do is read.
 
Both of you are wrong. Private property does exist in Socialism. Look it up.

No it does not.
socialism by definition is an absence of private property for the means of production. PERIOD.

now, don' feed me your sleazy leftist progressivist blurring the lines and labeling socialism on something which is not even CLOSE to it.

Now you are getting warmer. You are correct its the absence of private property for the means of production. Not the absence of private property for vehicles,homes,personal property etc. All ya gotta do is read.

no, sweetheart, it is the absence of private property of everything - even your life and your kids and your wife - in reality. Just let them start with means of production and you will end up in GULAG or dead because of artificially created famine.
 
Of course they won't. god forbid the poor get an equal shot at making it. I think Maduro is awesome and so was Chavez. I loved it when he shut down the bastards jacking prices up on stuff a few months back...I look forward to that here in the US.

You're a scary commie.

he is extremely ignorant.

Your opinion,yet you are the one who doesn't comprehend the tenets of socialism.I bet you don't even realize how MANY kinds of Socialism there are...there is even Libertarian Socialism LOL
 
Fail rate -- 100% and counting. And to think some of our resident geniuses are pushing this style of government...... Incredible.

Every time, every single time, socialism is tried it fails. Spectacularly.

Every Freedom-Loving American predicted this the minute that scumbag 'Ugo took over (may he roast in hell). And now?

Now look at what they've done.

Pretty words can only do so much. And you eventually run out of other people's money

Venezuela Descends Into Madness, Rioting And Hysteria

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But …Socialism…. :dunno:

Via Daily Beast:

“I want to get out of here. I want to leave this country as soon as possible and never come back.”

The text from my friend Luis surprised me. A lawyer by training, he got his masters in urban planning from an elite Manhattan university, and had returned to Venezuela full of hope. He was hired by a local NGO working on poverty abatement issues. But now, he’s fed up.

“Nothing works. There are lines to buy everything. Prices have gone through the roof. You can’t go out at night for fear of getting shot. If you want to get married, finding a place to live is impossible. The country has become unlivable.”

Luis’s story is a depressingly common one on the streets of Venezuela’s major urban centers. The nation’s young people are tired of enduring one of the world’s highest inflation rates, highest murder rates, scarcity of basic staples like toilet paper, and the near certainty that things are going to get worse before they get better. A few days ago, the Associated Press reported on Venezuelans camping on the sidewalk to get information about emigrating to Ireland.
Coming to an America near you.


haven't read the thread yet, but I wonder how many leftist have said; "That's not real socialism." or some other lame excuse like blaming conservatives that have no power at all down there.


Hope the people revolt and set up a republic
 
No it does not.
socialism by definition is an absence of private property for the means of production. PERIOD.

now, don' feed me your sleazy leftist progressivist blurring the lines and labeling socialism on something which is not even CLOSE to it.

Now you are getting warmer. You are correct its the absence of private property for the means of production. Not the absence of private property for vehicles,homes,personal property etc. All ya gotta do is read.

no, sweetheart, it is the absence of private property of everything - even your life and your kids and your wife - in reality. Just let them start with means of production and you will end up in GULAG or dead because of artificially created famine.

:cuckoo: To much tea party kool aid pal. As a Socialist I know damn well the tenets of it unlike you who has been fed the bullshit from the republicans and tea party idiots. Like I said all you need to do is read...its quite simple and easy to find the truth. I won't argue with you over something I know to be true, I would never support something (communism) that doesn't support or allow private personal property. I would much rather have production in the hands of the public than in the hands of an elite few who control how much we get paid etc.
 
Obama is actually a pragmatic centrist, the GOP whacko nutjobs at this point lol...Obama hasn't been able to even get any compromises passed fer chrissakes...

considering just how fucking dumb you are.

and I mean it boggles the mind to consider it, kinda dumb.

I think you actually think what you said is true.

it's all wrong, but you're a liberal and are therefore unteachable since you can't learn.
 
You're a scary commie.

he is extremely ignorant.

Your opinion,yet you are the one who doesn't comprehend the tenets of socialism.I bet you don't even realize how MANY kinds of Socialism there are...there is even Libertarian Socialism LOL

it is not an opinion, it is a diagnosis. what you have described here as your belief in "socialism" is pure ignorance.

Learn the basics and study some history instead of listening to some brainwashing leftard loon.

only an idiot would say that there are "many kinds of socialisms" as there is always only ONE.
Which always results in bloodshed and extreme poverty, misery and eventually, revolts.
 
Now you are getting warmer. You are correct its the absence of private property for the means of production. Not the absence of private property for vehicles,homes,personal property etc. All ya gotta do is read.

no, sweetheart, it is the absence of private property of everything - even your life and your kids and your wife - in reality. Just let them start with means of production and you will end up in GULAG or dead because of artificially created famine.

:cuckoo: To much tea party kool aid pal. As a Socialist I know damn well the tenets of it unlike you who has been fed the bullshit from the republicans and tea party idiots. Like I said all you need to do is read...its quite simple and easy to find the truth. I won't argue with you over something I know to be true, I would never support something (communism) that doesn't support or allow private personal property. I would much rather have production in the hands of the public than in the hands of an elite few who control how much we get paid etc.

dumbo, start reading from here https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

then I may pay some attention - if you switch from extreme idiocy to a moderate one.

so far it is too stupid to deserve anything except a condescending smirk.

communism never existed. only socialism. and it was murderous - always. and always will be. as it is being proven as we speak.
 
READ...all you need to do is READ not take the words of the tea party or the republicans but READ...that's all. End of this argument as I won't argue with the willfully ignorant.
 

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