SNAP (food stamps) should be restricted to rice, flour, rolled oats, and sugar

[danielpalos]

Why not leave the poor the **** alone?

And while you're at it let them smoke pot so they can go to sleep feeling a little better.

**** them and their sleep. I want them to get a job.

the right is all talk and no action.

let's have a War on Capitalism's, natural rate of unemployment, so the right has a good excuse to get more national and more social in their public policies.

Where have you been? The left has declared war on capitalism since long ago. Lowering taxes and regulations are all talk to you?

yes; especially with a socialist work ethic requirement. capitalism is about voluntary social transaction, not involuntary forms of servitude.

Involuntary servitude is socialism. But making taxes and regulations better on business isn't just lip service. You must be trolling.

yes, so why require a socialist work ethic from the Age of Iron, instead of a Capital bailout through unemployment compensation simply for being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States. who really, is the socialist.

 

[danielpalos]

special pleading, is the right wing really has.

So it is trolling.

only trolls resort to fallacy.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Yeah...that's not happening for $10. You have to take into account your initial investment on buying the cumin powder and pepper, even though you might be using only a small portion of it. A bag of beans $2. Ham hocks... $3-4. Onions $1. Poblano Pepper $1, the chicken bouillon cubes $2. A thing of Pepper $2. Cumin powder $3. More like $14-15. But do you plan on eating the same thing every single day? And I'm sorry... but in all the time I worked in the grocery store I never saw anyone buying lobster or crab legs or anything like that with EBT.

You are so full of ******* shit you stupid *****!

I do it all the damn time!

You want to tell the taxpayer they should support your welfare ass and be allow to waste their money on whatever you want to eat!

The fact is the Government has the right to tell you what you can and can not buy and you do not deserve to eat like the rest of Americans if you need the welfare of others!

You should just get the basic and I will tell you that a bulb of Mexican Onions is fifty cents and you can buy Mexican products and not some high end shit either!

You want your cake and eat it too, and do not tell me how much it cost to make Black beans and Hocks because I make them at least once a week and I budget my bills down to the last penny!

Why is that Progressive Liberals like to tell taxpayers what they need to give to society and then demand those like me to mind my own business when you waste my tax dollars on steak and lobster!?!

Also you can not buy a two dollar steak anywhere, so which one of is the real ******* liar here!?!

I buy two dollar steaks all the ******* time. They are cheap round steaks, and they are marked down 75% because they are about to expire, but I throw them in the freezer until I'm ready to eat them.

As I said with your meal, you have to look at the initial cost of buying the cumin and the black pepper because you aren't buying just the little bit that you are using each time, and that effects the cost. So yes, I am saying you are a liar about that. You can not start from scratch with no ingredients, and go out and buy all the stuff you need to make your meal for $10.

How much cumin do you think it takes to make that meal? A ******* cup?

It doesn't matter, you have to buy a shaker of it even if you are only using a dash. You can't walk into a grocery store and offer to give them a dime if you just shake some in your hand....

No you don't have to buy a shaker. Sprouts sells it just like they do, fresh veggies and oats. You buy what you need.

Hmmm. We have Sprouts, but I've never gone there. Had no idea they did measure-your-own bulk spices.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Not everyone knows how to cook from scratch & wouldn't have the first clue what to do with basic staple ingredients. A person can not only survive on rice & beans, but even thrive. But it does get old fast without variety. Meats & fruits & veggies are necessary too

Well, yeah, without fruit, you end up getting scurvy.

. Vitamin C tablets are extremely cheap. Like 2 cents a day. THINK

So your plan is that, instead of simply letting them spend food stamps - which you are going to fund at exactly the same dollar amount, regardless of what type of food they buy - to buy a well-rounded diet (should they be so inclined), you would prefer instead to provide inadequate nutrition and have them spend cash they should spend on rent, utilities, etc. on vitamins they aren't getting from their diet?

What benefit does this provide, other than pandering to your own petty, punitive vindictiveness?

 

[Iceweasel]

special pleading, is the right wing really has.

So it is trolling.

only trolls resort to fallacy.

...more special pleading. Troll.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I also think that one of the requirements should be you are not allowed to own pets. It makes no sense that taxpayers are feeding people and those people are feeding their animals. The government should be allowed to send agents to various homes to see if these people have huge dogs or ten cats.

I agree but the real problem is the fools have kids!!! Poor people shouldn't have kids.

Which is why I think if a person is applying for any kind of welfare, they shouldn't receive one dime until they are fixed. You can't solve poverty when the government offers incentives for poor people to create more poor people. I think it should apply to both genders as well. If a father of a child isn't supporting or help supporting it, he too should have to be fixed before he gets any kind of welfare.

At what point did you become a big-intrusive-government Fascist instead of a conservative, and where was I? Hey, while we're copying China's mindset, why don't we also just institute a one-child-only law for undesirables, and kill off any excess kids they sneakily squirt out without your permission?

Jesus Christ. Government-mandated surgery. This is what "conservatives" have degenerated into.

 

[BlueGin]

You are so full of ******* shit you stupid *****!

I do it all the damn time!

You want to tell the taxpayer they should support your welfare ass and be allow to waste their money on whatever you want to eat!

The fact is the Government has the right to tell you what you can and can not buy and you do not deserve to eat like the rest of Americans if you need the welfare of others!

You should just get the basic and I will tell you that a bulb of Mexican Onions is fifty cents and you can buy Mexican products and not some high end shit either!

You want your cake and eat it too, and do not tell me how much it cost to make Black beans and Hocks because I make them at least once a week and I budget my bills down to the last penny!

Why is that Progressive Liberals like to tell taxpayers what they need to give to society and then demand those like me to mind my own business when you waste my tax dollars on steak and lobster!?!

Also you can not buy a two dollar steak anywhere, so which one of is the real ******* liar here!?!

I buy two dollar steaks all the ******* time. They are cheap round steaks, and they are marked down 75% because they are about to expire, but I throw them in the freezer until I'm ready to eat them.

As I said with your meal, you have to look at the initial cost of buying the cumin and the black pepper because you aren't buying just the little bit that you are using each time, and that effects the cost. So yes, I am saying you are a liar about that. You can not start from scratch with no ingredients, and go out and buy all the stuff you need to make your meal for $10.

How much cumin do you think it takes to make that meal? A ******* cup?

It doesn't matter, you have to buy a shaker of it even if you are only using a dash. You can't walk into a grocery store and offer to give them a dime if you just shake some in your hand....

No you don't have to buy a shaker. Sprouts sells it just like they do, fresh veggies and oats. You buy what you need.

Hmmm. We have Sprouts, but I've never gone there. Had no idea they did measure-your-own bulk spices.

Yes they do. It's nice. My daughter makes a copycat Olive Garden Gnocchi soup and that's where she gets the spices. I think last time she paid .16 for each spice she needed to make that soup. Good for spices you don't use often.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I also think that one of the requirements should be you are not allowed to own pets. It makes no sense that taxpayers are feeding people and those people are feeding their animals. The government should be allowed to send agents to various homes to see if these people have huge dogs or ten cats.

I agree but the real problem is the fools have kids!!! Poor people shouldn't have kids.

Which is why I think if a person is applying for any kind of welfare, they shouldn't receive one dime until they are fixed. You can't solve poverty when the government offers incentives for poor people to create more poor people. I think it should apply to both genders as well. If a father of a child isn't supporting or help supporting it, he too should have to be fixed before he gets any kind of welfare.

Being poor isn't an incurable disease... what you just said is one of the most idiotic things I've ever heard.

"You want food? You gotta give up the chance to have kids the rest of your life..."

So the non-idiotic thing is for poor people to have more children for a larger SNAP's card, a bigger HUD home in the suburbs, and of course, paid utilities?

And let me ask: what do you think working parents do when they can't financially support any more children?

My suggestion is nothing more than society asks of working people. If you can't afford to have children, don't have them. But for some reason, you think poor people should be exempt from that restriction. And BTW, most birth control methods can be reversed. When you are off the dole and want to have children, in most cases, that's possible.

Obama may have changed this, but last time I checked, if you get pregnant while already on food stamps, your benefits are not increased for the extra kid (although he/she will qualify for whatever nutrition aid the state has for newborns).

And I haven't noticed "society asking working people" to have invasive surgery.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Procreating is a constitutional right covered under the 1st Amendment which guarantees freedom of religion.

But having society pay for those children is not Constitutional.

Then address THAT, not this crazed, leftist-think idea of government-mandated surgery.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Which is why I think if a person is applying for any kind of welfare, they shouldn't receive one dime until they are fixed. .

Even i think that's extreme. Just take away their right to vote. If you're been on medicaid or section 8 or SNAP in the 12 months prior to an election, then you're not eligible. In the future maybe you will be.

I don't see how that's extreme given the fact that's exactly what working parents do. If you can't afford anymore children, you get yourself fixed.

I shouldn't have to wave the word "voluntarily" in the face of someone who's allegedly conservative. There's a big difference between me voluntarily and privately deciding to have a tubal ligation (which I did) because I didn't want more kids after I had the last at 40, and the government ordering someone to have one. Obviously. Duh.

 

[Cecilie1200]

And people cannot survive on rice, flour, oats, and sugar alone!

It's better than candy bars and potato chips and booze. That's what most welfare bums live on.

You DO get that that's not your decision to make, nor should you want it to be, right?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Which is why I think if a person is applying for any kind of welfare, they shouldn't receive one dime until they are fixed. .

Even i think that's extreme. Just take away their right to vote. If you're been on medicaid or section 8 or SNAP in the 12 months prior to an election, then you're not eligible. In the future maybe you will be.

I don't see how that's extreme given the fact that's exactly what working parents do. If you can't afford anymore children, you get yourself fixed.

I shouldn't have to wave the word "voluntarily" in the face of someone who's allegedly conservative. There's a big difference between me voluntarily and privately deciding to have a tubal ligation (which I did) because I didn't want more kids after I had the last at 40, and the government ordering someone to have one. Obviously. Duh.

It's not an order. If you don't want to have it done, don't go on any public assistance.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Well, here is one of the issues where I split with the conservatives. I am all for helping our poor people here in our own country. I can understand the concern that people will become dependent upon government/taxpayer resources, but in order to be a successful country you have to take care of your poor people.

If we'd stop giving illegal aliens $500 billion in benefits every year, we'd have the money to take care of our poor citizens.

Which is a completely separate issue from your desire to have the government micromanage people's food purchases.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Which is why I think if a person is applying for any kind of welfare, they shouldn't receive one dime until they are fixed. .

Even i think that's extreme. Just take away their right to vote. If you're been on medicaid or section 8 or SNAP in the 12 months prior to an election, then you're not eligible. In the future maybe you will be.

I don't see how that's extreme given the fact that's exactly what working parents do. If you can't afford anymore children, you get yourself fixed.

I shouldn't have to wave the word "voluntarily" in the face of someone who's allegedly conservative. There's a big difference between me voluntarily and privately deciding to have a tubal ligation (which I did) because I didn't want more kids after I had the last at 40, and the government ordering someone to have one. Obviously. Duh.

It's not an order. If you don't want to have it done, don't go on any public assistance.

That's not even a good dodge, Chairman Mao.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I also think that one of the requirements should be you are not allowed to own pets. It makes no sense that taxpayers are feeding people and those people are feeding their animals. The government should be allowed to send agents to various homes to see if these people have huge dogs or ten cats.

I agree but the real problem is the fools have kids!!! Poor people shouldn't have kids.

Which is why I think if a person is applying for any kind of welfare, they shouldn't receive one dime until they are fixed. You can't solve poverty when the government offers incentives for poor people to create more poor people. I think it should apply to both genders as well. If a father of a child isn't supporting or help supporting it, he too should have to be fixed before he gets any kind of welfare.

Being poor isn't an incurable disease... what you just said is one of the most idiotic things I've ever heard.

"You want food? You gotta give up the chance to have kids the rest of your life..."

So the non-idiotic thing is for poor people to have more children for a larger SNAP's card, a bigger HUD home in the suburbs, and of course, paid utilities?

And let me ask: what do you think working parents do when they can't financially support any more children?

My suggestion is nothing more than society asks of working people. If you can't afford to have children, don't have them. But for some reason, you think poor people should be exempt from that restriction. And BTW, most birth control methods can be reversed. When you are off the dole and want to have children, in most cases, that's possible.

Obama may have changed this, but last time I checked, if you get pregnant while already on food stamps, your benefits are not increased for the extra kid (although he/she will qualify for whatever nutrition aid the state has for newborns).

And I haven't noticed "society asking working people" to have invasive surgery.

If you have children, you are expected to be able to support them. I have no idea where this notion came that if you want to keep having kids and billing your neighbor, that's just fine.

 

[ChrisL]

They get a set amount of money/food stamps each month. How they choose to spend it is up to them. It might be a good idea to limit purchases made with food stamps, such as not being able to purchase junk food with them, but then poor people have birthdays, Christmas, and other events to celebrate too. They should be able to purchase a bag of chips and some dip, cake, snacks, etc. for a party or something.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Which is why I think if a person is applying for any kind of welfare, they shouldn't receive one dime until they are fixed. .

Even i think that's extreme. Just take away their right to vote. If you're been on medicaid or section 8 or SNAP in the 12 months prior to an election, then you're not eligible. In the future maybe you will be.

I don't see how that's extreme given the fact that's exactly what working parents do. If you can't afford anymore children, you get yourself fixed.

I shouldn't have to wave the word "voluntarily" in the face of someone who's allegedly conservative. There's a big difference between me voluntarily and privately deciding to have a tubal ligation (which I did) because I didn't want more kids after I had the last at 40, and the government ordering someone to have one. Obviously. Duh.

It's not an order. If you don't want to have it done, don't go on any public assistance.

That's not even a good dodge, Chairman Mao.

It's not a dodge. Nobody is required to go on welfare. It's an option like anything else. Nobody forces you on welfare, nobody forces you to have children you can't support. All options.

 

[Meathead]

Well, here is one of the issues where I split with the conservatives. I am all for helping our poor people here in our own country. I can understand the concern that people will become dependent upon government/taxpayer resources, but in order to be a successful country you have to take care of your poor people.

If we'd stop giving illegal aliens $500 billion in benefits every year, we'd have the money to take care of our poor citizens.

Which is a completely separate issue from your desire to have the government micromanage people's food purchases.

Government has no business in managing people's food purchases. I will spend my money as I choose. Having said that, I don't want moochers dining on lobster on my dime.

 

[ChrisL]

Well, here is one of the issues where I split with the conservatives. I am all for helping our poor people here in our own country. I can understand the concern that people will become dependent upon government/taxpayer resources, but in order to be a successful country you have to take care of your poor people.

If we'd stop giving illegal aliens $500 billion in benefits every year, we'd have the money to take care of our poor citizens.

Which is a completely separate issue from your desire to have the government micromanage people's food purchases.

Government has no business in managing people's food purchases. I will spend my money as I choose. Having said that, I don't want moochers dining on lobster on my dime.

If they were buying lobster all the time, then they wouldn't have enough food for the month, so they really cannot do that anyways.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I also think that one of the requirements should be you are not allowed to own pets. It makes no sense that taxpayers are feeding people and those people are feeding their animals. The government should be allowed to send agents to various homes to see if these people have huge dogs or ten cats.

I agree but the real problem is the fools have kids!!! Poor people shouldn't have kids.

Which is why I think if a person is applying for any kind of welfare, they shouldn't receive one dime until they are fixed. You can't solve poverty when the government offers incentives for poor people to create more poor people. I think it should apply to both genders as well. If a father of a child isn't supporting or help supporting it, he too should have to be fixed before he gets any kind of welfare.

At what point did you become a big-intrusive-government Fascist instead of a conservative, and where was I? Hey, while we're copying China's mindset, why don't we also just institute a one-child-only law for undesirables, and kill off any excess kids they sneakily squirt out without your permission?

Jesus Christ. Government-mandated surgery. This is what "conservatives" have degenerated into.

What we "degenerated" to is having personal responsibility. Sorry you're against that.