SNAP benefits about to be cut off -- and she don't like it

[JWBooth]

It is, nobody is forced to take a job. If someone values themselves at $10/hr, and the employer says, no I value it at $8/hr, he doens't have to take the job.

Nor should the rest of us be forced to subsidize his decision.

 

[struth]

Nor should the rest of us be forced to subsidize his decision.

Very true.

 

[Frankenstein]

Dems have told Speaker Johnson that they will not vote to reopen government until they have a guarantee that Republicans aren't going to double healthcare premiums for hard working Americans. Republicans refuse to agree to this. Instead they'd rather the whole country suffers.

You spelled Trump/Johnson wrong.

Surre he does. If Trump gave Johnson the go ahead to agree to extend the ACA's tax credits the government would immediately reopen.

Fake news. Republicans have the White House AND majorities in both houses of Congress. They own this.
Remember all that crowing you MAGAts did last November about your "overwhelming win?"
Well...how does all that "winning" feel a year later when it's time to own the failures you voted for?

Quit your whining snowflake!

But those increases in premiums are just part of the original ACA you tout as being so awesome!

 

[MagicMike]

But those increases in premiums are just part of the original ACA you tout as being so awesome!

Didn't Trump promise voters he had a "better" plan to replace tbe ACA Act back in 2016?
He didn't did he?

 

[Frankenstein]

Didn't Trump promise voters he had a "better" plan to replace tbe ACA Act back in 2016?
He didn't did he?

He tried but didn't have the numbers in congress, so back to my point why if the ACA is so awesome, why don't we just cut the subsidies and go back to it as originally intended?

 

[Concerned American]

Didn't Trump promise voters he had a "better" plan to replace tbe ACA Act back in 2016?
He didn't did he?

ACA has to expire before a replacement can be negotiated. Can't have two redundant acts. SMH.

 

[Concerned American]

He tried but didn't have the numbers in congress, so back to my point why if the ACA is so awesome, why don't we just cut the subsidies and go back to it as originally intended?

Because, like keeping your own doctor, the ACA is just lies and it has to be subsidized by the taxpayers.

 

[MagicMike]

If a job is available then government assistance should not be an option

But what if the job doesn't pay enough to make ends meet? Many people on public assistance do work.

There is no single definition of “low-paying” jobs, but by any definition the term fairly characterizes the jobs of millions of American workers. One study estimated that 11.4 percent of workers in 2017 were paid wages that would leave them in poverty for full-time, year-round work.[13] Another study found that 12 to 30 percent of U.S. workers were in jobs that pay wages that would leave a primary wage-earner supporting a family in poverty or close to poverty in 2013; the vast majority of workers in low-paying jobs were at least age 22, and many were supporting families.[14] Other research examined different measures of poverty among workers and found that in the preferred estimate, about 9 to 11 percent of working family heads lived in poverty in 2012; some 20 to 24 million people lived in households in poverty that were headed by a person with a job.[15]

https://www.cbpp.org/research/food-assistance/snap-helps-millions-of-workers-in-low-paying-jobs#:~:text=More%20recent%20annual%20Census%20data,with%20variable%20hours%20and%20pay.

 

[Orangecat]

Didn't Trump promise voters he had a "better" plan to replace tbe ACA Act back in 2016?
He didn't did he?

If he was a fascist dictator, we'd have that plan. Congress didn't repeal obamacare, so we'll never know if it would've been better.

 

[Orangecat]

But what if the job doesn't pay enough to make ends meet?

Then you find a better job or trim your expenditures.

 

[MagicMike]

If he was a fascist dictator, we'd have that plan. Congress didn't repeal obamacare, so we'll never know if it would've been better.

Trump didn't have a plan and you know it. Do you enjoy being lied to by him?

 

[Concerned American]

But what if the job doesn't pay enough to make ends meet? Many people on public assistance do work.

There is no single definition of “low-paying” jobs, but by any definition the term fairly characterizes the jobs of millions of American workers. One study estimated that 11.4 percent of workers in 2017 were paid wages that would leave them in poverty for full-time, year-round work.[13] Another study found that 12 to 30 percent of U.S. workers were in jobs that pay wages that would leave a primary wage-earner supporting a family in poverty or close to poverty in 2013; the vast majority of workers in low-paying jobs were at least age 22, and many were supporting families.[14] Other research examined different measures of poverty among workers and found that in the preferred estimate, about 9 to 11 percent of working family heads lived in poverty in 2012; some 20 to 24 million people lived in households in poverty that were headed by a person with a job.[15]

https://www.cbpp.org/research/food-assistance/snap-helps-millions-of-workers-in-low-paying-jobs#:~:text=More%20recent%20annual%20Census%20data,with%20variable%20hours%20and%20pay.

Get a second job. No better incentive to improve your skills.

 

[MagicMike]

He tried but didn't have the numbers in congress, so back to my point why if the ACA is so awesome, why don't we just cut the subsidies and go back to it as originally intended?

The ACA the way it was initially written was only supposed to be temporary to get universal healthcare off the ground. The plan was that the system would be tweaked and perfected in the future. Republicans have obstructed all efforts to improve on it from the very beginning because they are of course in the pockets of big pharma/medical/insurance lobyists.
And that in a nut shell is how we've gotten into this mess.

 

[Orangecat]

Trump didn't have a plan and you know it.

Prove that statement or STFU.

Do you enjoy being lied to by him?

Doesn't even register as a blip on my radar. I'd prefer we repeal obamacare and replace it with nothing.

 

[Frankenstein]

But what if the job doesn't pay enough to make ends meet? Many people on public assistance do work.

There is no single definition of “low-paying” jobs, but by any definition the term fairly characterizes the jobs of millions of American workers. One study estimated that 11.4 percent of workers in 2017 were paid wages that would leave them in poverty for full-time, year-round work.[13] Another study found that 12 to 30 percent of U.S. workers were in jobs that pay wages that would leave a primary wage-earner supporting a family in poverty or close to poverty in 2013; the vast majority of workers in low-paying jobs were at least age 22, and many were supporting families.[14] Other research examined different measures of poverty among workers and found that in the preferred estimate, about 9 to 11 percent of working family heads lived in poverty in 2012; some 20 to 24 million people lived in households in poverty that were headed by a person with a job.[15]

https://www.cbpp.org/research/food-assistance/snap-helps-millions-of-workers-in-low-paying-jobs#:~:text=More%20recent%20annual%20Census%20data,with%20variable%20hours%20and%20pay.

Well, my mom while working two jobs, never took a dime of assistance

 

[SweetTea]

Good point. Probably cheaper just to fund welfare programs.

Or they could get 2 jobs if needed.

 

[Frankenstein]

The ACA the way it was initially written was only supposed to be temporary to get universal healthcare off the ground. The plan was that the system would be tweaked and perfected in the future. Republicans have obstructed all efforts to improve on it from the very beginning because they are of course in the pockets of big pharma/medical/insurance lobyists.
And that in a nut shell is how we've gotten into this mess.

Yes they lied, Universal healthcare is a joke, and just another thing the middle class would be taxed to death for, to pay for those who
don't work

 

[Concerned American]

The plan was that the system would be tweaked and perfected in the future.

Is that kind of like having to pass it to find out what's in it? Sure that sounds like good faith governing. The ACA was smoke and mirrors and your smoke screen trying to justify it is no different. BTW, was one of those "tweaks" supposed to be taxpayer funded subsidies? Throw it out and start over.

 

[Concerned American]

Well, my mom while working two jobs, never took a dime of assistance

Sounds like your mom and my mom went to the same old school.

 

[Thinker101]

The ACA the way it was initially written was only supposed to be temporary to get universal healthcare off the ground. The plan was that the system would be tweaked and perfected in the future. Republicans have obstructed all efforts to improve on it from the very beginning because they are of course in the pockets of big pharma/medical/insurance lobyists.
And that in a nut shell is how we've gotten into this mess.

Wow, one day it's "health insurance" not healthcare, now it's back to "healthcare". Only thing they're tweaking and perfecting is how to get more of our money, to provide less in return.