Snake Meat......source of chinese virus

[badger2]

Hallucinations included a rotating human head being nailed:

One day ago

COVID-19 Side Effect: Delirium
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/health/medical/the-one-covid-19-side effect-that-s-terrifying-people/ar-BB167lcr?ocid=spartan-dhp-feeds

 

[badger2]

msn.com/en-ca/health/medical/the-one-covid-19-side-effect-that-s-terrifying-people/ar-BB167lcr?ocid=spartan-dhp-feeds

 

[badger2]

www. 'The One COVID-19 Side Effect That's Terrifying People.'

This resonates with Guillain-Barre posted earlier in this thread.

 

[badger2]

The media wars continue, more on the background:

1 Jul 2020 China Announces Countermeasures Against U.S. Oppression of Chinese Media

https://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-07-01/c_139181323.htm

 

[badger2]

We will gather reports on the neurological symptom.

Neuro COVID-19

The neuroinvasive potential of SARS-CoV2 may play a role in the respiratory failure of COVID-19 patients - PubMed

Following the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV) and Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV), another highly pathogenic coronavirus named SARS-CoV-2 (previously known as 2019-nCoV) emerged in December 2019 in Wuhan, China, and rapidly spreads around the...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[badger2]

www. Pandemic Talk thread "U.S. Cases Estimated 50,000 Today"
'....ER director in Houston said there were more 20-somethings being admitted than any other age group.'

One might suspect that the virus targets the more abundant glycosylation of 20-somethings than of 50-70-somethings.

 

[badger2]

During a COVID-19 conversation with a surgeon in March 2020, the surgeon mentioned a curious parameter of dengue virus, recalling that it was within the context of vaccine dynamics. Today, we sat up and took notice:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/07/01/coronavirus-autopsies-findings/?

'....COVID-19 and dengue sound really different, but the cells that are involved are similar....a 1960s report on a patient with dengue fever...."There were large swaths of damage due to oxygen deprivation. Whether the deceased were longtime intensive care patients or people who died suddenly," Solomon said, "the pattern was eerily similar.
....megakaryocytes." '

Dengue Megakaryocytes

Publisher Correction: Selective Tropism of Dengue Virus for Human Glycoprotein Ib - PubMed

A correction to this article has been published and is linked from the HTML and PDF versions of this paper. The error has been fixed in the paper.

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'....glycoprotein 1b....'

Oxygen deprivation in COVID-19 autopsies compare with the biology of anoxia in suspected COVID-19 intermediate host, Chrysemys picta.

 

[Agit8r]

Perhaps. But it has been snake handlers (Charismatic Christianity) and snake oil (Cloroquine as cure-all, "No big deal," reopening) that made the US the place in the world that the contagion is the worst.

 

[Desperado]

What absolute BS....... It was a biological attack on America by China
The virus came from a weapons lab in Wuhan. It was meant to destroy the US economy and take down Donald Trump along the way.

 

[badger2]

The Washington Post autopsy article continues:

'Rapkiewicz was struck by the abundance in the heart of rare cells called megakaryocytes, which produce platelets that control clotting.'

We next plug in the turtle-platelet assemblage at Pubmed:

Marine Leech Anticoagulant
Marine Leech Anticoagulant Diversity and Evolution - PubMed
'....a transcript with homology to ohanin, originally isolated from King Cobra, was found in Cystobranchus vividus but is otherwise unknown from leeches.'

A sea turtle/human link to cytokines:

Comparison of sea turtle thrombocyte aggregation to human platelet aggregation in whole blood - PubMed

The endangered sea turtles are living "fossils" that afford us an opportunity to study the hemostatic process as it likely existed millions of years ago. There are essentially no data about turtle thrombocyte aggregation prior to our studies. Thrombocytes are nucleated cells that serve the same...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Human Cytokines

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19215950

Closer to Chrysemys would be Trachemys. Both share a certain parasite, so hydroxychloroquine COVID-19 pharmacodynamics link the malaria parasite at this point:

Trachemys

Morphologic and Cytochemical Characteristics of the Blood Cells of the Yellow-Bellied Slider (Trachemys scripta scripta) - PubMed

The increasing prevalence of yellow-bellied sliders (Trachemys scripta scripta) as pets in the European Union and also its utilization as animal models for experimental purposes makes crucial an accurate classification of their blood cells. The aim of this work was to provide a morphologic...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[badger2]

#668 has an intriguing hypothesis, though post #669 fails to consider that the 'lab strain' hypothesis was refuted back in Feb or Mar. The genome has been sequenced, and anyone who thinks they know where the lab sequence was inserted and what the sequence is, is welcome to speculate. We don't think it's a viable argument.

Quite by serendipity, as chloroquine and snakes were being invoked in post #668, we retrieved some interesting links from Pubmed.

 

[badger2]

We should reiterate that Chrysemys (and Pelodiscus) as likely intermediate hosts of COVID-19 came from a multi-authored report from Wuhan University, China; Los Alamos National Labs, New Mexico; University of California at San Diego, etc.

 

[badger2]

Malaria is from the phylum Apicocomplexa. So too is the coccidea from Trachemys (Big Bend Slider, Socorro County, New Mexico):

Trachemys / Coccidea (Apicocomplexa: Eimeriidae)

Coccidia (Apicomplexa: Eimeriidae) from the big bend slider, Trachemys gaigeae (Testudines: Emydidae), in New Mexico - PubMed

Twenty-nine Big Bend sliders Trachemys gaigeae (Hartweg, 1934) were collected from Socorro County, New Mexico, and their feces examined for coccidial parasites. Three (10%) of the turtles were found to be infected with at least 1 coccidian. Seven Eimeria spp. (E. chrysemydis, E. graptemydos, E...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Genus Eimeria also occurs in Chrysemys, and the parasite shared by both Chrysemys and Trachemys is Eimeria trachemydis. Now, it will be a matter of investigating parasite populations in Chinese Chrysemys and Pelodiscus, but will Americans be allowed to do that there?

 

[Dekster]

The chiinese eat all kinds of exotic foods......and live with pigs in many cases....the source of most of the flu viruses that travel around the world.

.Wuhan: Chinese scientists trace coronavirus to snakes - Breitbart

West Virginia has a rattlesnake festival if you are so inclined to indulge in some exotic meat

 

[Unkotare]

.........and live with pigs in many cases.......

???

 

[Unkotare]

The chiinese eat all kinds of exotic foods......and live with pigs in many cases....the source of most of the flu viruses that travel around the world.

.Wuhan: Chinese scientists trace coronavirus to snakes - Breitbart

West Virginia has a rattlesnake festival if you are so inclined to indulge in some exotic meat

Snake is not really an unusual meat around the world.

 

[badger2]

We've already posted the U.S. Army study for another suspected intermediate COVID-19 host, Chinese krait, Bungarus. As that study (from 1988) showed, chloroquine increased bungarotoxin potency 17-fold. This is another item we will place in the hydroxychloroquine/chloroquine file. The U.S. Army study is in post #357.

 

[badger2]

For comparison with COVID-19 neuro symptoms in humans, a spirorchid fluke causes neurological symptoms in Chrysemys:

Chrysemys / Spirorchis / Fatal Trematodiasis

Fatal trematodiasis in research turtles - PubMed

During a 5-year period, 16 freshwater turtles (Trachemys scripta elegans and Chrysemys picta) that were purchased for research purposes died spontaneously. Clinical signs of disease included lethargy, constant swimming, swimming sideways, hemiplegia, and ulcerative lesions on the carapace. At...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

'....swimming sideways....eggs were seen within liver, spleen, brain, kidney, lung, myocardium and pancreas....praziquantel is effective treatment.'

Chloroquine links to praziquantel:

Plasmodium Chloroquine Resistance

[Ca++ ion transport blockers as reversants of the drug resistance of malarial parasites. 2. The effect of praziquantel on the resistance to chloroquine and compound R-70-Zh of Plasmodium berghei] - PubMed

The reversing action of anthelminthic praziquantel (P) on the effect of chloroquine (C) and compound R-70-Zh (styrylquinazoline) was revealed on a Plasmodium berghei model (white inbred mice), using a LNK65 isolate with naturally reduced sensitivity to chloroquine and its polyresistant line...

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'....reversing action of praziquantel on effect of chloroquine.'

Two abstracts in particular link helminth parasites to Bungarus:

Bungarus / ACE

Identification of a novel type of alternatively spliced exon from the acetylcholinesterase gene of Bungarus fasciatus. Molecular forms of acetylcholinesterase in the snake liver and muscle - PubMed

The venom of the snake Bungarus fasciatus contains a hydrophilic, monomeric species of acetylcholinesterase (AChE), characterized by a C-terminal region that does not resemble the alternative T- or H-peptides. Here, we show that the snake contains a single gene for AChE, possessing a novel...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Bungarus / Food Market Sparganosis

Severe infection of wild-caught snakes with Spirometra erinaceieuropaei from food markets in Guangzhou, China involves a risk for zoonotic sparganosis - PubMed

Wild-caught snakes are a popular and traditional food in China. However, little known to the public, snakes are also intermediate hosts of Spirometra erinaceieuropaei, a food- and water-borne pathogen of sparganosis. Therefore, we investigated the prevalence of S. erinaceieuropaei in 10 popular...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[badger2]

What works for Chrysemys helminth infection is contraindicated for COVID-19 when treated with hydroxychloroquine:

Jul 2020 COVID-19 ChemoProphylaxis with Hydroxychloroquine

ChemoPROphyLaxIs with hydroxychloroquine For covId-19 infeCtious disease (PROLIFIC) to prevent covid-19 infection in frontline healthcare workers: A structured summary of a study protocol for a randomised controlled trial - PubMed

The full protocol is attached as an additional file, accessible from the Trials website (Additional file 1). In the interest of expediting dissemination of this material, the familiar formatting has been eliminated; this Letter serves as a summary of the key elements of the full protocol. The...

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'....Exclusion Criteria: presence of any of the following....praziquantel.'

 

[badger2]

Following the platelet evidence in COVID-19 autopsies (posts #667 & 670), we linked leech anticoagulant of King Cobra (post #670). We next link Monogenea parasites to both snake and turtle:

Pseudonaja textilis / Monogenea

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30796952

Monogenea / Chrysemys / Upper Peninsula, Michigan

Helminth parasites of the western painted turtle, Chrysemys picta belli (Gray), including Neopolystoma elizabethae n. sp. (Monogenea: Polystomatidae), a parasite of the conjunctival sac - PubMed

Neopolystoma elizabethae n. sp. is described from the conjunctival sac of the western painted turtle Chrysemys picta belli (Gray), from the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. This is the first species found in this location from chelonians in North America. The new species differs from all other...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Monogenea Chrysemys / Trachemys

Demonstrating the value and importance of combining DNA barcodes and discriminant morphological characters for polystome taxonomy (Platyhelminthes, Monogenea) - PubMed

Polystomes are monogenean parasites that infest mainly semi aquatic vertebrates, such as amphibians and chelonians. Owing to the lack of discriminative morphological characters and because polystomes are considered to be strictly host- and site-specific, host identity is often used as an...

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