dilloduck
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If smokers can vote to ban non-smokers I don't see a problem. ( until thin people start to ban fat people etc etc etc )
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Well I doubt if whether a neighbor smokes or not will greatly influence someone's decision to buy a million dollar Manhattan condo or not.
Where will the potheads go?
No, no one has the right to tell people what they can or can't do in their own homes.
Are you opposed to zoning laws? Do I have the right to open a fish market in my home?
...I wouldn't be surprised at all to see it applied in single family residential neighborhoods as well, and not just condos and townhouses.
Many New York City smokers may feel like the only place they can legally light up these days is at home--or at least, it used to be.
From the Wall Street Journal:
At least half a dozen Manhattan co-ops are expected to ask shareholders during annual meetings this spring to vote on an all-out smoking ban that would prohibit residents from lighting up in their own homes, real estate attorneys say.
Another dozen co-op or condo buildings are considering such a vote.
The Journal notes that, in New York, it's already illegal to smoke in public areas at any building with more than nine apartments
Last month, the City Council voted to ban smoking in parks, beaches and other public spaces like Times Square..
Condos, Co-Ops To Vote On Smoking Bans
Good idea?
Good idea for future purchasers of properties in those communities.
But not a fair to impose that ban on people who already own their properties, I think.
...I wouldn't be surprised at all to see it applied in single family residential neighborhoods as well, and not just condos and townhouses.
Unless it was part of a Co-op or HOA I would be very surprised. If not, that would require the local government telling you that you cannot engage in a legal activity in your own home and I'd wager that wouldn't pass constitutional muster.
...I wouldn't be surprised at all to see it applied in single family residential neighborhoods as well, and not just condos and townhouses.
Unless it was part of a Co-op or HOA I would be very surprised. If not, that would require the local government telling you that you cannot engage in a legal activity in your own home and I'd wager that wouldn't pass constitutional muster.
As a non-smoker who is irritated as hell at smoking, I believe it is up to the property owner to set that rule for his house or condo. That being said, if the condo management wishes to make it a policy of the whole facility, they should be able to do that too. Although it pisses me off to no end to smell cigarette smoke in my apartment from assholes smoking in the hall or from the units next or below me, they have that right.Many New York City smokers may feel like the only place they can legally light up these days is at home--or at least, it used to be.
From the Wall Street Journal:
At least half a dozen Manhattan co-ops are expected to ask shareholders during annual meetings this spring to vote on an all-out smoking ban that would prohibit residents from lighting up in their own homes, real estate attorneys say.
Another dozen co-op or condo buildings are considering such a vote.
The Journal notes that, in New York, it's already illegal to smoke in public areas at any building with more than nine apartments
Last month, the City Council voted to ban smoking in parks, beaches and other public spaces like Times Square..
Condos, Co-Ops To Vote On Smoking Bans
Good idea?
...I wouldn't be surprised at all to see it applied in single family residential neighborhoods as well, and not just condos and townhouses.
Unless it was part of a Co-op or HOA I would be very surprised. If not, that would require the local government telling you that you cannot engage in a legal activity in your own home and I'd wager that wouldn't pass constitutional muster.
I'm not so sure about that. A group of non smokers could certainly gather together and sue because the smell of smoke "bothered" them.
Why aren't nicotine patches provided free for addicts ? We provide methadone for heroin addicts.
If i want to hang naked from my chandelier while smoking and eating trans fats and drinking Four Loko that's my business and no one else's
If i want to hang naked from my chandelier while smoking and eating trans fats and drinking Four Loko that's my business and no one else's
You're description is so vivid that I have a hunch you have already done it.
Unless it was part of a Co-op or HOA I would be very surprised. If not, that would require the local government telling you that you cannot engage in a legal activity in your own home and I'd wager that wouldn't pass constitutional muster.
I'm not so sure about that. A group of non smokers could certainly gather together and sue because the smell of smoke "bothered" them.
Why aren't nicotine patches provided free for addicts ? We provide methadone for heroin addicts.
Doesn't mean they're gonna win.
On a side note, every time my neighbor does laundry the stench of dryer sheets fills the air and often gives me a headache. That's way worse than the smell of smoke.
And what about barbeque? Can people sue if that smell bothers them?
How about wood burning stoves?
I believe a Co-op has the legal right to make that call, same as a hotel. I also think it would be practically unenforceable, same as a hotel.
On a personal note, I'm not allowed to smoke indoors at my current rented house... I like it. I'll probably be an outdoor only smoker from here on out.
That is, until I'm a non-smoker which I think will happen reeeaaaalll soon... nyuk nyuk nyuk...
Unless it was part of a Co-op or HOA I would be very surprised. If not, that would require the local government telling you that you cannot engage in a legal activity in your own home and I'd wager that wouldn't pass constitutional muster.
I'm not so sure about that. A group of non smokers could certainly gather together and sue because the smell of smoke "bothered" them.
Why aren't nicotine patches provided free for addicts ? We provide methadone for heroin addicts.
Doesn't mean they're gonna win.
On a side note, every time my neighbor does laundry the stench of dryer sheets fills the air and often gives me a headache. That's way worse than the smell of smoke.
And what about barbeque? Can people sue if that smell bothers them?
How about wood burning stoves?
On a side note, every time my neighbor does laundry the stench of dryer sheets fills the air and often gives me a headache. That's way worse than the smell of smoke.
I'm not so sure about that. A group of non smokers could certainly gather together and sue because the smell of smoke "bothered" them.
Why aren't nicotine patches provided free for addicts ? We provide methadone for heroin addicts.
Doesn't mean they're gonna win.
On a side note, every time my neighbor does laundry the stench of dryer sheets fills the air and often gives me a headache. That's way worse than the smell of smoke.
And what about barbeque? Can people sue if that smell bothers them?
How about wood burning stoves?On a side note, every time my neighbor does laundry the stench of dryer sheets fills the air and often gives me a headache. That's way worse than the smell of smoke.
You might want to be careful if this is frequent. I worked for a guy researching a case revolving around dryer sheet surfactants and causing multiple chemical sensitivity. Many chemicals in those used as 'fragrences' are often the same chemicals in industrial settings called hazardous. It comes down to concentrations but acetates, formaldehyde and linalool and other chemicals often don't go away, they build up in the body.
As long as its done with a vote, yeah its a good idea.