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[beagle9]

The 4-year economic orecasts I have seen are terrible if Biden gets his stimulus and tax increases.

Economic forecasts were downgraded on the prospect of Trump not getting a stimulus passed.

Moody's cuts US GDP outlook as stimulus uncertainty threatens consumption

Moody's lowered its 2021 economic growth forecast to 4.2% from 4.5% and said it expects the U.S. to reach its pre-pandemic level of aggregate activity in the second half of 2021.

www.spglobal.com

Your argument is a counter factual one. It’s simply a weak argument because it’s completely unverifiable. Merely opinion, which to be honest isn’t exactly an unbiased one.

Yeah, "free" money provides a short-term boost to the economy. Everyone knows that. "free" isn't sustainable. Once the "free" stops, the economy crashes. Not sure what you don't understand about that. GDP forecasts in 2024 are as low as 2.3%. Maybe the Democrats can continue giving out "free" stuff to artificially boost the economy. Who knows.

Ditto with tax cuts. There’s no difference in cutting taxes and “free money”. Short term stimulus and long term deficits. Long term GDP growth at 2.4% is better than projected in 2019.

https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/2018-06/53919-2018ltbo.pdf

There is a HUGE difference in "free" money vs tax cuts. One allows you to keep more of the money you earn while the other has no obligations attached, including work. And no, tax cuts don't necessarily mean long-term deficits. Tax cuts encourage work. "Free" encourages no work. The more people not working the higher the taxes must go to pay for the "free" stuff. You start chipping away at the people that work because it becomes less and less attractive as taxes go up. Long term, tax revenue decreases in this scenario. Lowering taxes with little "free" stuff does quite the opposite. Tax revenue increases over time because more people are working and contributing to the government coffers. In either scenario, government spending must be curtailed, but one method is clearly more advantages in the long term than the other. If you don't understand this distinction, it is no wonder you are a Democrat.

I know that’s the Republican dogma but it’s just not true. The idea that tax cuts “pay for themselves” as your suggesting is a myth. It has not ever worked out that way.

“Free money” is just as stimulating as tax cuts since the stimulating effect is that the money saved goes back into the economy through spending. There’s not much difference economically. If anything, giving money to poorer people is more stimulating since there the people who spend it. I got a big tax cut a few years ago and it had little effect on my spending. I mostly just put it in stocks. You may have an emotional reaction to one vs the other but it’s pretty much the same on the paper.

So take it from the worker, and give it to the poor via the government as the broker eh ?? Otherwise instead of it coming to we the people in the form of tax cuts, and this from the over bloated, wasteful government that enriches complete politicial idiot's with no apologies to the American workers once the crap hits the fan. Yeah that's what we need to keep doing, so we can enrich the likes of what we see representing this company these days. What a disgrace it all is, and look at the damage it's all caused. Ignoring the truth is a mental condition ya know, so get help.

Democrats are trying to get corporations and the wealthy, to pay higher wages and benefits, but Republicans keep refusing to raise the minimum wage, and they continue to allow employers to pay wages well below the national poverty rate. They want universal health care and quality education for all.

Republicans have been defunding public education since Reagan declared ketchup a "vegetable" for school lunch programs.

So until wages and benefits for the 40% of working Americans currently dependent on government benefits to provide even a subsistence level of existence for themselves and their families, is enough to sustain workers without income supplements, these people are going to need assistance.

When Reagan was elected, American workers owned 50% of the nation's wealth. Now, they're dependent on government assistance to feed and house their families. Republicans continue to cut taxes to the wealthy, leading to economic collapse, which further impoverishes the workers and enriches the wealthy.

Republican economic crashes have become features of the US economy. It wasn't leftist policies that impoverished South America. It was the International Monetary Fund and World Bank insisting on Milton Friedman's monetary policies: private ownership of everything, no wage or price controls, and no social safety net, which destroyed South America economically.

The same thing is happening in the USA under Republicans. They're trying to turn the USA into Brazil.

Where in the world does cultural degradation come into play ??? I ask because culture and standards are the very foundations to any society. Once that goes to hell, then the system's put in place slowly start to rot or decay with them. That's what we have been experiencing, and that's why the system's are being attempted to be artificially held up by overtaking forces who have to do this, because most citizen's won't willingly go along with the bullcrap, much less be forced to invest in it.

 

[beagle9]

And where are we today?

I saw a lot of white folks protesting the killing of George Floyd. A hundred years ago the cops would have had statues erected because of their brave action!

a hundred years ago? What does that have to do with today? Thats where you are missing the point. We have arrived. Enjoy it. Dont keep on looking at the past. You and I had no control over that. We have control over the present. Enjoy it.
You know...years ago my brother saw me laugh at a joke. His response? How can you laugh when millions of slaves were treated like dirt 150 years ago.
My response?
I had nothing to do with that. It sucked, it was wrong and it was righted.
I asked him....why cant you enjoy the progress we have made?
His response? Because I am a progressive.
I mean....huh?

Why can't YOU recognize how much you've regressed since 1980? Why can't YOU recognize that for racial minorities in the USA, getting stopped by the police is something that terrifies them?

Why can't YOU recognize that the American justice system has created a police state where you have locked up more of your citizens than any other first world country? A disproportionate number of them black and brown people.

There is a case in Georgia when a white man illegally voted for his dead mother. He said his mother wanted to vote for Trump so he completed her ballot and sent it in. He plead guilty and received probation. In Texas, a black woman who is not a citizen voted under the mistaken belief that it was allowed. She plead guilty and is now serving 5 years.

Instead of everyone working together to build the best nation possible, there are so many people like you, who think that holding a sizeable percentage of your population back from achieving their full potential is the only way to retain their own position in life. Instead of everyone building together, a great deal of energy and resources are going into law enforcement to criminalize young black men, and keep them in "their place".

Waste of time and resources. Imagine if you spent the same amount of money getting young black men an education, instead of make sure they can never vote, what your nation could accomplish.

Your few examples fall short in the examples found against the leftist liberals doing bad things in America.

That's not much of a rebuttal, now is it. What "bad things" have leftists done, and if you start with your KKK bullshit, I'm not buying.

What has happened since 1980, is all that matters right now. Republicans have spent the last 40 years trying to undo the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. Tell me what "bad things" Democrats did while Republicans were pitting rural voters against "welfare queens"?

You lie about republican's trying to oppress voter's, so I won't hold back and forth conversation's with liar's. Quit lying and pandering, and we might discuss something, but until then get lost.

 

[kaz]

The Trump attempt at insurrection was much more serious than the attack on 9/11/2001.

A house divided against itself cannot stand and a large segment of the population--the Trump cult--feel that the attempt to stop the orderly transfer of power was a legitimate form of protest.

And yet you supported rioting, looting and burning US cities across the country for an entire summer, none of those things happened at the Capital.

Nothing happened that threatened the United States. This is just more of your hyperbolic bull shit.

The people who went in the Capital are being arrested and prosecuted as they should be, Hair On Fire Girl.

Now call for the same for your violent leftist thugs. We both know that isn't going to happen

 

[Dragonlady]

And where are we today?

I saw a lot of white folks protesting the killing of George Floyd. A hundred years ago the cops would have had statues erected because of their brave action!

a hundred years ago? What does that have to do with today? Thats where you are missing the point. We have arrived. Enjoy it. Dont keep on looking at the past. You and I had no control over that. We have control over the present. Enjoy it.
You know...years ago my brother saw me laugh at a joke. His response? How can you laugh when millions of slaves were treated like dirt 150 years ago.
My response?
I had nothing to do with that. It sucked, it was wrong and it was righted.
I asked him....why cant you enjoy the progress we have made?
His response? Because I am a progressive.
I mean....huh?

Why can't YOU recognize how much you've regressed since 1980? Why can't YOU recognize that for racial minorities in the USA, getting stopped by the police is something that terrifies them?

Why can't YOU recognize that the American justice system has created a police state where you have locked up more of your citizens than any other first world country? A disproportionate number of them black and brown people.

There is a case in Georgia when a white man illegally voted for his dead mother. He said his mother wanted to vote for Trump so he completed her ballot and sent it in. He plead guilty and received probation. In Texas, a black woman who is not a citizen voted under the mistaken belief that it was allowed. She plead guilty and is now serving 5 years.

Instead of everyone working together to build the best nation possible, there are so many people like you, who think that holding a sizeable percentage of your population back from achieving their full potential is the only way to retain their own position in life. Instead of everyone building together, a great deal of energy and resources are going into law enforcement to criminalize young black men, and keep them in "their place".

Waste of time and resources. Imagine if you spent the same amount of money getting young black men an education, instead of make sure they can never vote, what your nation could accomplish.

Your few examples fall short in the examples found against the leftist liberals doing bad things in America.

That's not much of a rebuttal, now is it. What "bad things" have leftists done, and if you start with your KKK bullshit, I'm not buying.

What has happened since 1980, is all that matters right now. Republicans have spent the last 40 years trying to undo the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. Tell me what "bad things" Democrats did while Republicans were pitting rural voters against "welfare queens"?

You lie about republican's trying to oppress voter's, so I won't hold back and forth conversation's with liar's. Quit lying and pandering, and we might discuss something, but until then get lost.

We're not the ones who are lying. Court decision after court decision in regards to Republican states' policies have called their efforts "pinpointing poor and minority voters with laser-like precision.

Closing thousands of polling stations in poor and minority neighbourhood. Locating the only polling stations outside city limits with no access by public transit. Restricting hours. Allowing the Voting Rights Act to expire. Passing laws to make voter registration more difficult.

Vote Suppression

Vote suppression has a long and ugly history in the United States, and over the last two decades, it has resurfaced with a vengeance. Through research, lawsuits, and advocacy, the Brennan Center is fighting vote suppression on every front.

www.brennancenter.org

Supreme Court Case Could Limit Options to Fight Republican Voting Restrictions (Published 2021)

The Supreme Court on Tuesday heard arguments on an Arizona case that could further undermine the ability of the Voting Rights Act to protect access to the ballot.

www.nytimes.com

 

[kaz]

And where are we today?

I saw a lot of white folks protesting the killing of George Floyd. A hundred years ago the cops would have had statues erected because of their brave action!

a hundred years ago? What does that have to do with today? Thats where you are missing the point. We have arrived. Enjoy it. Dont keep on looking at the past. You and I had no control over that. We have control over the present. Enjoy it.
You know...years ago my brother saw me laugh at a joke. His response? How can you laugh when millions of slaves were treated like dirt 150 years ago.
My response?
I had nothing to do with that. It sucked, it was wrong and it was righted.
I asked him....why cant you enjoy the progress we have made?
His response? Because I am a progressive.
I mean....huh?

Why can't YOU recognize how much you've regressed since 1980? Why can't YOU recognize that for racial minorities in the USA, getting stopped by the police is something that terrifies them?

Why can't YOU recognize that the American justice system has created a police state where you have locked up more of your citizens than any other first world country? A disproportionate number of them black and brown people.

There is a case in Georgia when a white man illegally voted for his dead mother. He said his mother wanted to vote for Trump so he completed her ballot and sent it in. He plead guilty and received probation. In Texas, a black woman who is not a citizen voted under the mistaken belief that it was allowed. She plead guilty and is now serving 5 years.

Instead of everyone working together to build the best nation possible, there are so many people like you, who think that holding a sizeable percentage of your population back from achieving their full potential is the only way to retain their own position in life. Instead of everyone building together, a great deal of energy and resources are going into law enforcement to criminalize young black men, and keep them in "their place".

Waste of time and resources. Imagine if you spent the same amount of money getting young black men an education, instead of make sure they can never vote, what your nation could accomplish.

Your few examples fall short in the examples found against the leftist liberals doing bad things in America.

That's not much of a rebuttal, now is it. What "bad things" have leftists done, and if you start with your KKK bullshit, I'm not buying.

What has happened since 1980, is all that matters right now. Republicans have spent the last 40 years trying to undo the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. Tell me what "bad things" Democrats did while Republicans were pitting rural voters against "welfare queens"?

You lie about republican's trying to oppress voter's, so I won't hold back and forth conversation's with liar's. Quit lying and pandering, and we might discuss something, but until then get lost.

We're not the ones who are lying. Court decision after court decision in regards to Republican states' policies have called their efforts "pinpointing poor and minority voters with laser-like precision.

Closing thousands of polling stations in poor and minority neighbourhood. Locating the only polling stations outside city limits with no access by public transit. Restricting hours. Allowing the Voting Rights Act to expire. Passing laws to make voter registration more difficult.

Vote Suppression

Vote suppression has a long and ugly history in the United States, and over the last two decades, it has resurfaced with a vengeance. Through research, lawsuits, and advocacy, the Brennan Center is fighting vote suppression on every front.

www.brennancenter.org

Supreme Court Case Could Limit Options to Fight Republican Voting Restrictions (Published 2021)

The Supreme Court on Tuesday heard arguments on an Arizona case that could further undermine the ability of the Voting Rights Act to protect access to the ballot.

www.nytimes.com

Sure, racist. Darkies aren't smart enough to get an ID. Sure they aren't. You're in the right party, the Democrat party is the party of slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow, lynching, cross burning and segregation. No wonder you're a Democrat

 

[Indeependent]

And where are we today?

I saw a lot of white folks protesting the killing of George Floyd. A hundred years ago the cops would have had statues erected because of their brave action!

a hundred years ago? What does that have to do with today? Thats where you are missing the point. We have arrived. Enjoy it. Dont keep on looking at the past. You and I had no control over that. We have control over the present. Enjoy it.
You know...years ago my brother saw me laugh at a joke. His response? How can you laugh when millions of slaves were treated like dirt 150 years ago.
My response?
I had nothing to do with that. It sucked, it was wrong and it was righted.
I asked him....why cant you enjoy the progress we have made?
His response? Because I am a progressive.
I mean....huh?

Why can't YOU recognize how much you've regressed since 1980? Why can't YOU recognize that for racial minorities in the USA, getting stopped by the police is something that terrifies them?

Why can't YOU recognize that the American justice system has created a police state where you have locked up more of your citizens than any other first world country? A disproportionate number of them black and brown people.

There is a case in Georgia when a white man illegally voted for his dead mother. He said his mother wanted to vote for Trump so he completed her ballot and sent it in. He plead guilty and received probation. In Texas, a black woman who is not a citizen voted under the mistaken belief that it was allowed. She plead guilty and is now serving 5 years.

Instead of everyone working together to build the best nation possible, there are so many people like you, who think that holding a sizeable percentage of your population back from achieving their full potential is the only way to retain their own position in life. Instead of everyone building together, a great deal of energy and resources are going into law enforcement to criminalize young black men, and keep them in "their place".

Waste of time and resources. Imagine if you spent the same amount of money getting young black men an education, instead of make sure they can never vote, what your nation could accomplish.

Your few examples fall short in the examples found against the leftist liberals doing bad things in America.

That's not much of a rebuttal, now is it. What "bad things" have leftists done, and if you start with your KKK bullshit, I'm not buying.

What has happened since 1980, is all that matters right now. Republicans have spent the last 40 years trying to undo the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. Tell me what "bad things" Democrats did while Republicans were pitting rural voters against "welfare queens"?

You lie about republican's trying to oppress voter's, so I won't hold back and forth conversation's with liar's. Quit lying and pandering, and we might discuss something, but until then get lost.

We're not the ones who are lying. Court decision after court decision in regards to Republican states' policies have called their efforts "pinpointing poor and minority voters with laser-like precision.

Closing thousands of polling stations in poor and minority neighbourhood. Locating the only polling stations outside city limits with no access by public transit. Restricting hours. Allowing the Voting Rights Act to expire. Passing laws to make voter registration more difficult.

Vote Suppression

Vote suppression has a long and ugly history in the United States, and over the last two decades, it has resurfaced with a vengeance. Through research, lawsuits, and advocacy, the Brennan Center is fighting vote suppression on every front.

www.brennancenter.org

Supreme Court Case Could Limit Options to Fight Republican Voting Restrictions (Published 2021)

The Supreme Court on Tuesday heard arguments on an Arizona case that could further undermine the ability of the Voting Rights Act to protect access to the ballot.

www.nytimes.com

Sure, racist. Darkies aren't smart enough to get an ID. Sure they aren't. You're in the right party, the Democrat party is the party of slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow, lynching, cross burning and segregation. No wonder you're a Democrat

Perhaps DL and JoeB are married?

 

[jc456]

I know that’s the Republican dogma but it’s just not true. The idea that tax cuts “pay for themselves” as your suggesting is a myth. It has not ever worked out that way.

sure it works. worked every time. more revenue comes in during a tax cut. just a fact.

 

[danielpalos]

...i am a guy who understands his First Amendment.

Any women want to help me practice insurrecting with you for straight pride month?

 

[kaz]

And where are we today?

I saw a lot of white folks protesting the killing of George Floyd. A hundred years ago the cops would have had statues erected because of their brave action!

a hundred years ago? What does that have to do with today? Thats where you are missing the point. We have arrived. Enjoy it. Dont keep on looking at the past. You and I had no control over that. We have control over the present. Enjoy it.
You know...years ago my brother saw me laugh at a joke. His response? How can you laugh when millions of slaves were treated like dirt 150 years ago.
My response?
I had nothing to do with that. It sucked, it was wrong and it was righted.
I asked him....why cant you enjoy the progress we have made?
His response? Because I am a progressive.
I mean....huh?

Why can't YOU recognize how much you've regressed since 1980? Why can't YOU recognize that for racial minorities in the USA, getting stopped by the police is something that terrifies them?

Why can't YOU recognize that the American justice system has created a police state where you have locked up more of your citizens than any other first world country? A disproportionate number of them black and brown people.

There is a case in Georgia when a white man illegally voted for his dead mother. He said his mother wanted to vote for Trump so he completed her ballot and sent it in. He plead guilty and received probation. In Texas, a black woman who is not a citizen voted under the mistaken belief that it was allowed. She plead guilty and is now serving 5 years.

Instead of everyone working together to build the best nation possible, there are so many people like you, who think that holding a sizeable percentage of your population back from achieving their full potential is the only way to retain their own position in life. Instead of everyone building together, a great deal of energy and resources are going into law enforcement to criminalize young black men, and keep them in "their place".

Waste of time and resources. Imagine if you spent the same amount of money getting young black men an education, instead of make sure they can never vote, what your nation could accomplish.

Your few examples fall short in the examples found against the leftist liberals doing bad things in America.

That's not much of a rebuttal, now is it. What "bad things" have leftists done, and if you start with your KKK bullshit, I'm not buying.

What has happened since 1980, is all that matters right now. Republicans have spent the last 40 years trying to undo the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. Tell me what "bad things" Democrats did while Republicans were pitting rural voters against "welfare queens"?

You lie about republican's trying to oppress voter's, so I won't hold back and forth conversation's with liar's. Quit lying and pandering, and we might discuss something, but until then get lost.

We're not the ones who are lying. Court decision after court decision in regards to Republican states' policies have called their efforts "pinpointing poor and minority voters with laser-like precision.

Closing thousands of polling stations in poor and minority neighbourhood. Locating the only polling stations outside city limits with no access by public transit. Restricting hours. Allowing the Voting Rights Act to expire. Passing laws to make voter registration more difficult.

Vote Suppression

Vote suppression has a long and ugly history in the United States, and over the last two decades, it has resurfaced with a vengeance. Through research, lawsuits, and advocacy, the Brennan Center is fighting vote suppression on every front.

www.brennancenter.org

Supreme Court Case Could Limit Options to Fight Republican Voting Restrictions (Published 2021)

The Supreme Court on Tuesday heard arguments on an Arizona case that could further undermine the ability of the Voting Rights Act to protect access to the ballot.

www.nytimes.com

Yes, you are the ones who are lying. You denied that Fauci's job included overseeing gain of function research funding to the Wuhan lab. You denied it emphatically. What total propaganda. That he did that isn't in question. How do you think he got the job? Why has he been TESTIFYING in congress about it.

You're actually a Chinese spy named George who lives in Peking, aren't you? You're what, 24 and you post Chinese propaganda all day in your underwear.

You calling someone a liar is classic. The bigger the lie, the more strongly you shout it, George

 

[jc456]

And where are we today?

I saw a lot of white folks protesting the killing of George Floyd. A hundred years ago the cops would have had statues erected because of their brave action!

a hundred years ago? What does that have to do with today? Thats where you are missing the point. We have arrived. Enjoy it. Dont keep on looking at the past. You and I had no control over that. We have control over the present. Enjoy it.
You know...years ago my brother saw me laugh at a joke. His response? How can you laugh when millions of slaves were treated like dirt 150 years ago.
My response?
I had nothing to do with that. It sucked, it was wrong and it was righted.
I asked him....why cant you enjoy the progress we have made?
His response? Because I am a progressive.
I mean....huh?

Why can't YOU recognize how much you've regressed since 1980? Why can't YOU recognize that for racial minorities in the USA, getting stopped by the police is something that terrifies them?

Why can't YOU recognize that the American justice system has created a police state where you have locked up more of your citizens than any other first world country? A disproportionate number of them black and brown people.

There is a case in Georgia when a white man illegally voted for his dead mother. He said his mother wanted to vote for Trump so he completed her ballot and sent it in. He plead guilty and received probation. In Texas, a black woman who is not a citizen voted under the mistaken belief that it was allowed. She plead guilty and is now serving 5 years.

Instead of everyone working together to build the best nation possible, there are so many people like you, who think that holding a sizeable percentage of your population back from achieving their full potential is the only way to retain their own position in life. Instead of everyone building together, a great deal of energy and resources are going into law enforcement to criminalize young black men, and keep them in "their place".

Waste of time and resources. Imagine if you spent the same amount of money getting young black men an education, instead of make sure they can never vote, what your nation could accomplish.

Your few examples fall short in the examples found against the leftist liberals doing bad things in America.

That's not much of a rebuttal, now is it. What "bad things" have leftists done, and if you start with your KKK bullshit, I'm not buying.

What has happened since 1980, is all that matters right now. Republicans have spent the last 40 years trying to undo the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. Tell me what "bad things" Democrats did while Republicans were pitting rural voters against "welfare queens"?

You lie about republican's trying to oppress voter's, so I won't hold back and forth conversation's with liar's. Quit lying and pandering, and we might discuss something, but until then get lost.

We're not the ones who are lying. Court decision after court decision in regards to Republican states' policies have called their efforts "pinpointing poor and minority voters with laser-like precision.

Closing thousands of polling stations in poor and minority neighbourhood. Locating the only polling stations outside city limits with no access by public transit. Restricting hours. Allowing the Voting Rights Act to expire. Passing laws to make voter registration more difficult.

Vote Suppression

Vote suppression has a long and ugly history in the United States, and over the last two decades, it has resurfaced with a vengeance. Through research, lawsuits, and advocacy, the Brennan Center is fighting vote suppression on every front.

www.brennancenter.org

Supreme Court Case Could Limit Options to Fight Republican Voting Restrictions (Published 2021)

The Supreme Court on Tuesday heard arguments on an Arizona case that could further undermine the ability of the Voting Rights Act to protect access to the ballot.

www.nytimes.com

Yes, you are the ones who are lying. You denied that Fauci's job included overseeing gain of function research funding to the Wuhan lab. You denied it emphatically. What total propaganda. That he did that isn't in question. How do you think he got the job? Why has he been TESTIFYING in congress about it.

You're actually a Chinese spy named George who lives in Peking, aren't you? You're what, 24 and you post Chinese propaganda all day in your underwear.

You calling someone a liar is classic. The bigger the lie, the more strongly you shout it, George

 

[Lesh]

sure it works. worked every time. more revenue comes in during a tax cut. just a fact.

Never enough to offset the loss of revenue. Do revenues increase? Yup unless we are in a recession

 

[jc456]

sure it works. worked every time. more revenue comes in during a tax cut. just a fact.

Never enough to offset the loss of revenue. Do revenues increase? Yup unless we are in a recession

well sister, that must mean one must not increase spending. how odd. you, as usual, are confused. but the dollars coming in are always more than prior to the cut.

 

[SC Patriot]

a hundred years ago? What does that have to do with today? Thats where you are missing the point. We have arrived. Enjoy it. Dont keep on looking at the past.

Those who forget the pasts mistakes are doomed to repeat them.

I thinks we've made great progress and you can clearly see it by remembering the recent past.

I didnt say forget the past. I simply said enjoy the present.
I had nothing to do with the slavery of the past. But I am well aware that we can never have it happen again.
But please....be miserable and dwell on what happened in the past.

 

[jc456]

a hundred years ago? What does that have to do with today? Thats where you are missing the point. We have arrived. Enjoy it. Dont keep on looking at the past.

Those who forget the pasts mistakes are doomed to repeat them.

I thinks we've made great progress and you can clearly see it by remembering the recent past.

I didnt say forget the past. I simply said enjoy the present.
I had nothing to do with the slavery of the past. But I am well aware that we can never have it happen again.
But please....be miserable and dwell on what happened in the past.

I'd like to know what they expect from us for things others did a century ago.

 

[beagle9]

a hundred years ago? What does that have to do with today? Thats where you are missing the point. We have arrived. Enjoy it. Dont keep on looking at the past.

Those who forget the pasts mistakes are doomed to repeat them.

I thinks we've made great progress and you can clearly see it by remembering the recent past.

I didnt say forget the past. I simply said enjoy the present.
I had nothing to do with the slavery of the past. But I am well aware that we can never have it happen again.
But please....be miserable and dwell on what happened in the past.

I'd like to know what they expect from us for things others did a century ago.

Their claim is that it never stopped, and that we are just an extension of it. Problem they have is figuring out who the most guilty are, so they just group us all in, and then they want the government to punish us all for what they claim is current systemic racism. It's all bullcrap, but they got these power hungry Democrats to do exactly what they want.

 

[BlindBoo]

Their claim is that it never stopped,

That wasn't my claim Zippy. I think things have gotten a lot better. A hundred years ago Chauvin would have been a hero and given a metal for what he did. Sheeee...it they probably would have raised a statue for him!

 

[danielpalos]

Any local women want me to insurrect with you just for fun and practice?

 

[DBA]

The 4-year economic orecasts I have seen are terrible if Biden gets his stimulus and tax increases.

Economic forecasts were downgraded on the prospect of Trump not getting a stimulus passed.

Moody's cuts US GDP outlook as stimulus uncertainty threatens consumption

Moody's lowered its 2021 economic growth forecast to 4.2% from 4.5% and said it expects the U.S. to reach its pre-pandemic level of aggregate activity in the second half of 2021.

www.spglobal.com

Your argument is a counter factual one. It’s simply a weak argument because it’s completely unverifiable. Merely opinion, which to be honest isn’t exactly an unbiased one.

Yeah, "free" money provides a short-term boost to the economy. Everyone knows that. "free" isn't sustainable. Once the "free" stops, the economy crashes. Not sure what you don't understand about that. GDP forecasts in 2024 are as low as 2.3%. Maybe the Democrats can continue giving out "free" stuff to artificially boost the economy. Who knows.

Ditto with tax cuts. There’s no difference in cutting taxes and “free money”. Short term stimulus and long term deficits. Long term GDP growth at 2.4% is better than projected in 2019.

https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/2018-06/53919-2018ltbo.pdf

There is a HUGE difference in "free" money vs tax cuts. One allows you to keep more of the money you earn while the other has no obligations attached, including work. And no, tax cuts don't necessarily mean long-term deficits. Tax cuts encourage work. "Free" encourages no work. The more people not working the higher the taxes must go to pay for the "free" stuff. You start chipping away at the people that work because it becomes less and less attractive as taxes go up. Long term, tax revenue decreases in this scenario. Lowering taxes with little "free" stuff does quite the opposite. Tax revenue increases over time because more people are working and contributing to the government coffers. In either scenario, government spending must be curtailed, but one method is clearly more advantages in the long term than the other. If you don't understand this distinction, it is no wonder you are a Democrat.

I know that’s the Republican dogma but it’s just not true. The idea that tax cuts “pay for themselves” as your suggesting is a myth. It has not ever worked out that way.

“Free money” is just as stimulating as tax cuts since the stimulating effect is that the money saved goes back into the economy through spending. There’s not much difference economically. If anything, giving money to poorer people is more stimulating since there the people who spend it. I got a big tax cut a few years ago and it had little effect on my spending. I mostly just put it in stocks. You may have an emotional reaction to one vs the other but it’s pretty much the same on the paper.

So take it from the worker, and give it to the poor via the government as the broker eh ?? Otherwise instead of it coming to we the people in the form of tax cuts, and this from the over bloated, wasteful government that enriches complete politicial idiot's with no apologies to the American workers once the crap hits the fan. Yeah that's what we need to keep doing, so we can enrich the likes of what we see representing this company these days. What a disgrace it all is, and look at the damage it's all caused. Ignoring the truth is a mental condition ya know, so get help.

The alternative of ever increasing concentrations of wealth at the top and more scraps to fight over on the bottom has been working so much better. Really, just can’t see anything wrong with that.

If you don’t see the problem with that, you’re the one who isn’t healthy.

So how is it that there are still so many rags to riches stories in the US? What about all the rags to middle class stories that aren’t on anyone‘s radar? Did they all just get lucky or did some of them actually work harder than their neighbor? Giving people “free” stuff is not a way to encourage ambition, success and ultimately, productivity. Not sure why you don’t understand this.

 

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well sister, that must mean one must not increase spending. how odd. you, as usual, are confused. but the dollars coming in are always more than prior to the cut.

Because of growth in GDP revenue ALWAYS increases unless we are in a Recession stupid.

Tax cuts don't increase revenue. GROWTH increases revenue

 

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The 4-year economic orecasts I have seen are terrible if Biden gets his stimulus and tax increases.

Economic forecasts were downgraded on the prospect of Trump not getting a stimulus passed.

Moody's cuts US GDP outlook as stimulus uncertainty threatens consumption

Moody's lowered its 2021 economic growth forecast to 4.2% from 4.5% and said it expects the U.S. to reach its pre-pandemic level of aggregate activity in the second half of 2021.

www.spglobal.com

Your argument is a counter factual one. It’s simply a weak argument because it’s completely unverifiable. Merely opinion, which to be honest isn’t exactly an unbiased one.

In reality, the economic forecasts are all over the place, as usual.