CDZ Should these be a right for every American citizen?

[gipper]

^^^
This is a lie.

Prove it.

 

[Otis Mayfield]

No. Those aren't rights.

Do you mean, instead, "should they be entitlements"?

Also, no. Government should be the servant of the people, not the master.

They could be made rights, just like we made free speech a right.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Prove it.

Your claim. Onus is on you to prove it true.
And you know you cannot.
Thus, a lie.

 

[gipper]

Your claim. Onus is on you to prove it true.
And you know you cannot.
Thus, a lie.

This thread proves it. Some cons here have made it abundantly clear they don’t think government should help the poor. They also have no problem with government benefiting the rich. You may not be one of those cons, but it’s undeniable that some cons think this way.

 

[M14 Shooter]

This thread proves it.

You are fully aware of the fact nothing in this topic proves your claim.
You know you cannot prove your claim true.
Thus, your lie.

 

[gipper]

You are fully aware of the fact nothing in this topic proves your claim.
You know you cannot prove your claim true.
Thus, your lie.

No. You can deny all you like but without anything to back up your denial, I’ll accept your surrender.

 

[M14 Shooter]

No. You can deny all you like but without anything to back up your denial, I’ll accept your surrender.

Nothing in your post, above, changes the fact nothing in this topic proves your claim that conservatives "prefer to live in a nation where the poor and incompetent suffer and die in the gutter.".
Thus, your lie, proven.

 

[gipper]

Nothing in your post, above, changes the fact nothing in this topic proves your claim that conservatives "prefer to live in a nation where the poor and incompetent suffer and die in the gutter.".
Thus, your lie, proven.

You haven’t thought this through.

If all social spending is eliminated as some cons want, since it’s unconstitutional in their minds, This opinion was stated by cons in this thread. What do you think will happen to the poor?

 

[Markle]

This thread proves it. Some cons here have made it abundantly clear they don’t think government should help the poor. They also have no problem with government benefiting the rich. You may not be one of those cons, but it’s undeniable that some cons think this way.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Health and Sickness

1. subsidized doctor care mainly in county clinics

2. free public hospital treatment

3. subsidized dental care; free for children

4. subsidized prescription drugs; life-saving drugs free

5. free abortions and sterilizations

6. free maternity clinics for prenatal care

7. cash benefits to compensate for loss of most wages due to sickness; a separate benefit is available for workers injured on the job

Family Support

8. tax-free monthly payment to parents for each child; single parents receive an additional payment for each child

9. parents have a right to take a total of 12 months paid leave from work at near full wages to care for each child up to first year in school

10. subsidized child care at home or in a government day-care center

11. one year at a subsidized nursery school

12. unemployment insurance pays about 80 percent of previous income

Pensions

13. most retired persons receive three different kinds of old-age pensions paid for by taxes and employer contributions

14. full or partial disability pensions; disabled child pension goes to parents until age 16 and then directly to child

15. special payment to handicapped persons who are working or in school

16. surviving spouse and orphan pensions

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Should these be a right for every American citizen?

I think you should pay for a doctor visit to see if you have a brain tumor.

 

[dblack]

They could be made rights, just like we made free speech a right.

Freedom of Speech isn't an entitlement. No one has to do or give you anything to preserve your freedom of speech. A right is a protected freedom, not a product or a service that someone else must provide you.

 

[M14 Shooter]

You haven’t thought this through.

Which only means I have put more thought into it than you

If all social spending is eliminated as some cons want,

^^^^
This is a lie.

. What do you think will happen to the poor?

Even if the claim, above, was not a lie, this STILL does not prove your claim, because there's no necessary relationship between the elimination of federal social programs and the preference "to live in a nation where the poor and incompetent suffer and die in the gutter.".

Thus: Your statement is a lie.

 

[Markle]

You haven’t thought this through.

If all social spending is eliminated as some cons want, since it’s unconstitutional in their minds, This opinion was stated by cons in this thread. What do you think will happen to the poor?

So sadly typical of the far-left. They reach out for the prison of two ideas. They try to say if you are opposed to some excessive welfare programs, you want people to starve in the street.

As a staunch Conservative, I believe that the truly needy need a safety net. We cannot in good conscience, provide a hammock.

Thousands of businesses are closing because they cannot find help because President Joe Biden is paying them to NOT work. How is that good for anyone?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Freedom of Speech isn't an entitlement. No one has to do or give you anything to preserve your freedom of speech. A right is a protected freedom, not a product or a service that someone else must provide you.

The left, almost to a man, does not understand that you are responsible for providing the means to exercise your rights; if the means are provided by somene else, then you have a privilege, not a right.

 

[dblack]

Lhe left, almost to a man, does not understand that you are responsible for providing the means to exercise your rights; if the means are provided by somene else, then you have a privilege, not a right.

Yes, if the means are provided by someone else, it is a privilege. If your life's necessities are reduced to privileges provided and controlled by "someone else", that "someone else" owns you.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Yes, if the means are provided by someone else, it is a privilege. If your life's necessities are reduced to privileges provided and controlled by "someone else", that "someone else" owns you.

Pretty much.
This is, of course, why Democrats push entitlements.

 

[ESay]

How about making them responsible for their own well being?

Some people can't be responsible for that. Is that so hard to understand?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Some people can't be responsible for that. Is that so hard to understand?

Mother Nature would cull these people from the pack.

 

[ESay]

I am not talking about the poor in general. I am talking about people who can't support themselves. Is that so hard to understand?

 

[dblack]

Some people can't be responsible for that. Is that so hard to understand?

But most of us can. It's no excuse to socialize health care (or whatever else it is you want to see government take over).