As Massive Social Security Changes Begin, Here's What You Need To Know

[MarathonMike]

Federal employees have paid into Social Security since the Federal Employees Retirement System Act of 1986.

WW

Not if the Federal workers chose to stay in the old retirement plan CSRS.

 

[WorldWatcher]

He’s increasing social security payments for a segment that wasn’t getting their full amount. Are you really this deranged by hate for Trump that you can’t see he IMPROVED IT?!

Who he?

WW

 

[Lisa558]

Who he?

WW

Trump. The liberal just complained that Trump is stomping on SS.

 

[westwall]

Trump is stepping on the biggest third rail in American politics.

Yeah, he's trying to actually save it. Your clods just kept kicking that old can down the road.

The time where that can still happen is rapidly running out.

 

[WorldWatcher]

He’s increasing social security payments for a segment that wasn’t getting their full amount. Are you really this deranged by hate for Trump that you can’t see he IMPROVED IT?!

Who he?

WW

Trump. The liberal just complained that Trump is stomping on SS.

You said "he" was increasing SS benefits so some retirees were getting the full amount. Hence my question. Which in context goes back to the Social Security Fairness Act which eliminated the unfair WEP (Windfall Elimination Provision) impacting some retirees.

That law was passed by Congress and signed by President Biden (January 5th), not President Trump (who didn't become President until January 20th).

So you were giving Trump credit for a law he didn't pass and he didn't sign.

Interesting.

WW

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

About 2 million folks will get the fairness increases, about 3%

 

[Lisa558]

You said "he" was increasing SS benefits so some retirees were getting the full amount. Hence my question. Which in context goes back to the Social Security Fairness Act which eliminated the unfair WEP (Windfall Elimination Provision) impacting some retirees.

That law was passed by Congress and signed by President Biden (January 5th), not President Trump (who didn't become President until January 20th).

So you were giving Trump credit for a law he didn't pass and he didn't sign.

Interesting.

WW

I was responding to the liberal’s post in which he BLAMED Trump.

 

[WorldWatcher]

I was responding to the liberal’s post in which he BLAMED Trump.

Trump? Nothing to do with repealing WEP and removing the benefit penalty.

Trump, firing about 10,000 Social Security workers that can have a negative impact on benefit processing? Yep.

WW

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

My best friend who has one of the best pensions I have ever heard of from the Federal Govt just received a five figure lump sum check. FAIRNESS! LOL Trump had nothing to do with that, if you see a law with the word "FAIR" in it you can bet the Democrats are behind it.

It was introduced by a Republican.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I don't know your wifes' situation, but my friend and other Federal employees getting this new SS benefit DID NOT pay into the Social Security system.

Then the benefit will not apply, because they cannot draw SS benefits in the first place.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You said "he" was increasing SS benefits so some retirees were getting the full amount. Hence my question. Which in context goes back to the Social Security Fairness Act which eliminated the unfair WEP (Windfall Elimination Provision) impacting some retirees.

That law was passed by Congress and signed by President Biden (January 5th), not President Trump (who didn't become President until January 20th).

So you were giving Trump credit for a law he didn't pass and he didn't sign.

Interesting.

WW

It was passed by a Republican House and Senate. Thank you very much for getting that part wrong.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Trump? Nothing to do with repealing WEP and removing the benefit penalty.

Trump, firing about 10,000 Social Security workers that can have a negative impact on benefit processing? Yep.

WW

Nope. You cannot know that.

 

[Lisa558]

Trump? Nothing to do with repealing WEP and removing the benefit penalty.

Trump, firing about 10,000 Social Security workers that can have a negative impact on benefit processing? Yep.

WW

The SSA, like all government agencies, is woefully overstaffed - and goofing off half the day since they have more bodies than work.

Trump is changing that.

 

[georgephillip]

Like most governmental employees, SS employees are working at far less than fifty percent of capacity. With proper (get your workload done or be fired) motivation, a much smaller workforce can get the work done

Your claim that most government employees "are working at far less than fifty percent of capacity" sounds "generally anecdotal, politically motivated or based on stereotypes."

Can you provide any evidence for that claim since productivity is hard to measure across the board for government work like regulatory oversight, research, defense, public safety, and other services that don't lend themselves easily to output based metrics (unlike manufacturing or sales jobs).

ChatGPT: "Is there any evidence supporting the claim that most employees of the US government are working at less than fifty percent of capacity?

 

[georgephillip]

The people working for the social security administration take a percentage away from the efficiency of the payments dispersed. This is when people depend on the abilities of those employed to do so. Pride in work is important. And to appreciate it.

Which metrics are you using to measure the percentage that people working for Social Security take from the efficiency of the payments dispensed?

 

[AZrailwhale]

I don't know your wifes' situation, but my friend and other Federal employees getting this new SS benefit DID NOT pay into the Social Security system.

If they didn't pay in they don't qualify to receive SS.

• "Individuals aged 62 or older who have worked and paid Social Security taxes for 10 years or more.
• Disabled individuals.
• Blind individuals.
• Survivors of another Social Security claimant.
• Individuals with little or no income and resources.
• Individuals who have difficulty paying for essentials like food, clothing, and housing."

From the official Social Security Administration website.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Your claim that most government employees "are working at far less than fifty percent of capacity" sounds "generally anecdotal, politically motivated or based on stereotypes."

Can you provide any evidence for that claim since productivity is hard to measure across the board for government work like regulatory oversight, research, defense, public safety, and other services that don't lend themselves easily to output based metrics (unlike manufacturing or sales jobs).

ChatGPT: "Is there any evidence supporting the claim that most employees of the US government are working at less than fifty percent of capacity?

Just go into any government office and look. Nobody is ever busy, long breaks are acceptable, more holidays off work than any other organization just to name a few reasons they don't work at more than fifty percent of capability.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I don't know your wifes' situation, but my friend and other Federal employees getting this new SS benefit DID NOT pay into the Social Security system.

If they were federal employees, they had to pay into SS, They did not have the option after 1991. They lied or you misunderstood. I am going with the latter.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Not if the Federal workers chose to stay in the old retirement plan CSRS.

They did not have the option. They lied.

I was a government employee since 1978. Have a nice life!

 

[MarathonMike]

If they didn't pay in they don't qualify to receive SS.

• "Individuals aged 62 or older who have worked and paid Social Security taxes for 10 years or more.
• Disabled individuals.
• Blind individuals.
• Survivors of another Social Security claimant.
• Individuals with little or no income and resources.
• Individuals who have difficulty paying for essentials like food, clothing, and housing."

From the official Social Security Administration website.

My friend kept the legacy pension plan and told me he got unexpected money from SS. I guess he could be messing with me but I doubt it.