The prosperity principle is something that i cannot fathom since Jesus was all about helping the least among us and those people are closer to heaven than very wealthy people. How did this ever happen? Its twisted.
Zone1 Should the Southern Baptist Church pontificate on moral issues ?
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SweetSue92
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The prosperity gospel is its own problem, but what's happening in mainline protestant churches is replacing Jesus Christ with politics as savior.
Also, helping the poor is about your heart attitude. If you heart is inclined not to help or be generous, you're probably not regenerate in Christ. It's not that giving money and time away necessarily makes you closer to Christ, rather it reveals if you ARE close to Christ.
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Apologies, I fixed it.
Couchpotato
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How many threads are you starting about Muslims and their opinions on secular issues?
Dragonlady
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The South Baptists had a schism and split in half over Trump the first time he was in office.
A High-Five to the Southern Baptist Split and Why it Matters — Rebekah Drumsta
I woke up this morning to more news about the SBC and the saga which continues to unfold. I told my husband, “Well, the SBC is splitting, " he promptly gave me a high-five, then said, “I can guess, but why?” I told him simply, “The primary reasons are spiritual abuse, race and patriarchy,” to w
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NO CHURCH should be publically supporting political candidates, and if they're telling you how to vote from the pulpit, I'd walk out and never go back.
CHURCHES SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN POLITICS, AND ANY THAT DO, SHOULD HAVE THEIR TAX-FREE STATUS REVOKED.
Polishprince
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Its the Southern Baptist "Convention", not the Southern Baptist Church.
The SBC is a voluntary association of local Baptist congregations, and all they are doing here is deciding what they all agree on.
You might think otherwise, but Almighty God but Adam and Eve (not Steve) into the Garden, and that isn't a "moral issue" at all, What's possibly wrong with a free association of churches deciding what the basis of their association is?
Those churches who have different ideas about what Almighty God did, are free to establish their own associations, or remain unaffiliated.
The SBC is a voluntary association of local Baptist congregations, and all they are doing here is deciding what they all agree on.
You might think otherwise, but Almighty God but Adam and Eve (not Steve) into the Garden, and that isn't a "moral issue" at all, What's possibly wrong with a free association of churches deciding what the basis of their association is?
Those churches who have different ideas about what Almighty God did, are free to establish their own associations, or remain unaffiliated.
Dragonlady
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A child is most likely to be sexually abuse by members of their own families. 50% of all child sexual abuse is at the hands of family members. 20% of all convictions for child sexual abuse are members of the clergy or leaders of church sponsored programs. Teachers come a distant third at just over 11%.
Educator Sexual Misconduct Remains Prevalent in Schools
Twenty years after the Shakeshaft Report, educator sexual misconduct remains rampant in U.S. schools. The results of a new study give insights into the abuse and how to prevent it.
www.psychologytoday.com
Sexual Abuse in Church–Hidden Cases
Hidden sexual abuse in church, how it hurt victims, and research ideas from reports and cases.
www.qualitativecriminology.com
Child abuse statistics — Indiana Center for the Prevention of Youth Abuse & Suicide
www.indianaprevention.org
Teachers caught "banging their students" are fired, prosecuted and jailed.
Members of the clergy who sexually abuse their parishioners, are transferred to a different parish.
If a child is sexually abused by a member of their family, the CHILD is removed from the family, or they're blamed, shamed, and tormented.
The right's hysteria over "drag shows" as "grooming" child to be victims was such bullshit. I couldn't find a single instance of any drag queen or trans person, being convicted of sex crimes against children. But sports coaches, church camp leaders, Boy Scout leaders, teachers, members of the clergy, "funny uncles" or stepfathers. The people who you should be watching, you're NOT.
Tommy Tainant
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Hating on people is not christianity. Its possible to not be gay and show some considertion.
We have seen recently how religous dogma is a cancer in societty.
But you seem to have a whole ecosystem around it.
Dragonlady
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Which in fact more than 100 of those Baptist churches did after the homophobic congregations refused to accept gay marriage.
If you don't believe in gay marriage then marry another straight person, or don't get married, your choice. But who other people love and marry is between them and God, and you get no say in it at all.
Gay marriage has no impact on my life, other a few more wedding invites. But it has brought such joy to so many of my gay friends, and legal protections for their families.
Polishprince
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You don't get it, DL.
Gay Marriage is against the laws of Almighty God, and the US is supposed "one nation under God" as Congress voted in an overwhelming bipartisan vote in 1953.
If a church, or many churches back God on this, who is anyone to say they shouldn't.
How does it affect you in the least if millions of your fellow citizens don't want to glorify this kind of thing.
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The South Baptists had a schism and split in half over Trump the first time he was in office.
A High-Five to the Southern Baptist Split and Why it Matters — Rebekah Drumsta
I woke up this morning to more news about the SBC and the saga which continues to unfold. I told my husband, “Well, the SBC is splitting, " he promptly gave me a high-five, then said, “I can guess, but why?” I told him simply, “The primary reasons are spiritual abuse, race and patriarchy,” to w
NO CHURCH should be publically supporting political candidates, and if they're telling you how to vote from the pulpit, I'd walk out and never go back.
CHURCHES SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN POLITICS, AND ANY THAT DO, SHOULD HAVE THEIR TAX-FREE STATUS REVOKED.
Yet all I hear is crickets when commiecrat candidates campaign in black churches. Hypocrite much?????
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marvin martian
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As you enthusiastically cheer for Hamas. Lol
martybegan
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A child is most likely to be sexually abuse by members of their own families. 50% of all child sexual abuse is at the hands of family members. 20% of all convictions for child sexual abuse are members of the clergy or leaders of church sponsored programs. Teachers come a distant third at just over 11%.
Educator Sexual Misconduct Remains Prevalent in Schools
Twenty years after the Shakeshaft Report, educator sexual misconduct remains rampant in U.S. schools. The results of a new study give insights into the abuse and how to prevent it.
Sexual Abuse in Church–Hidden Cases
Hidden sexual abuse in church, how it hurt victims, and research ideas from reports and cases.www.qualitativecriminology.com
Child abuse statistics — Indiana Center for the Prevention of Youth Abuse & Suicide
Teachers caught "banging their students" are fired, prosecuted and jailed.
Members of the clergy who sexually abuse their parishioners, are transferred to a different parish.
If a child is sexually abused by a member of their family, the CHILD is removed from the family, or they're blamed, shamed, and tormented.
The right's hysteria over "drag shows" as "grooming" child to be victims was such bullshit. I couldn't find a single instance of any drag queen or trans person, being convicted of sex crimes against children. But sports coaches, church camp leaders, Boy Scout leaders, teachers, members of the clergy, "funny uncles" or stepfathers. The people who you should be watching, you're NOT.
And yet the left pretends it's just the religions that have this problem.
The RC church has taken steps to eliminate this issue.
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Do not look to churches to offer moral guidance. With the exception of the Unitarian Church, no church took a public stand against torture when Bush & the Neocons were torturing as public policy. Today all the Evangelical Churches, having been raised on the Old Testament like Ted Cruz pointed out in his interview with Tucker, are firmly behind the genocide in Gaza, and firmly behind military aggression against Iran because they believe God Told Them So.
The sad reality is that our governments are in thrall to the Zionist philosophy. Do not look to churches or government for moral leadership.
Tommy Tainant
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They spend more on cover ups.
martybegan
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Spent.
Most of this shit happened 2-3 decades ago. Now we see young female teachers exploiting boys (and girls) far more often.
elektra
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Marriage is not a requirement to love and live with who you want.
Marriage did have a meaning. Not any more. In the past if you said someone is married we knew what someone meant.
Homosexuals, or the politics dividing the nation is all this Marriage thing is about
dirty democrat politics fabricated a way to try and make republicans look bad.
democrats created a group that they can use for dirty politics
Marriage did have a meaning. Not any more. In the past if you said someone is married we knew what someone meant.
Homosexuals, or the politics dividing the nation is all this Marriage thing is about
dirty democrat politics fabricated a way to try and make republicans look bad.
democrats created a group that they can use for dirty politics
LuckyDuck01!
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Not to side with any "individuals" that would commit child abuse, but Christians churches in general are well meaning and do have some moral standards. In antiquity, the Catholic church committed murders, but paled in comparison to:
The same can't be said of Atheist Socialists/Communists.
China: Mao murdered at least 45 million of his own people in four years.
Soviet Union: Killed an estimated 61 million of its people.
Laos: Killed an estimated 1.7 million people.
Despite being an Atheist myself, I do have morals that the churches go by, as they are logical. Socialists/Communists on the other hand, have no compunction about killing those that disagree with them politically.
Dragonlady
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The USA has a sad history of assault and murder on minorities, be they racial or social. From attacks on blacks buying property and running for office post Civil War, the Trail of Tear, the Race Riots of the 1920's, the Civil Rights unrest of the 1960's, and the George Floyd protest in 2020. And then they pretend none of it happened or mattered or that there is a problem.
Jesus' Parable of the Good Samaritan made a point of kindness. Samaritans were reviled and hated by Jews. The parable talks of taking responsibility for others and showing kindness to "neighbours". "Neighbours" being anyone in need". By pointing out that the Good Samaritan was more righteous than the Pharisee who crossed to the other side of the road, Jesus was making the point that everyone has good in them and should be treated as such.
The USA cannot call itself a Christian nation when they turn away refugees, separate families, and deport people with no due process. That which you have done to the least among you, you have done to Me.
If Jesus was in the USA today, Kristi Noem and Tom Homan would round him up and ship him to a prison in El Salvador. Dark skinned, no papers, no money. Get Him outta here!!!
Dragonlady
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God's laws are the 10 Commandments.
Which Commandment is being broken? Which of God's Laws are being broken. Be specific.
THAT WHICH YOU DO TO THE LEAST AMONG YOU, YOU HAVE ALSO DONE TO ME.
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