Science Proves the Bible Again

[Hollie]

Here's the other weird thing about non-believers. They think the Bible is fairy tales, but it is considered a non-fiction book and a historical book. It is the best selling book year-after-year. If it doesn't take God to create life, then humans should be able to create life from non-life. That has never been done. So people who believe in that do not understand science nor understand how life works. One poster though amino acids were life. Moreover, once you are dead, then you cannot come back to life. Life from non-life has always been told in science fiction or horror like Frankenstein. It's the non-believers who believe in fairy tales, sci-fi, horror and the like. Once you are dead, then the spiritual side becomes important and the non-believers will lose their perfect spiritual selves because they will be in a state called the "spiritually dead."

ETA: Here's the part that I do not understand about being spiritually dead. The Bible states that it signifies a continuous state of death that began with spiritual death. How can death be continuous? Do you relive death over and over?

Non-believers as well as believers in competing religions think there is much in the Bible’s that qualifies as fairy tales. Humanity wiping floods, People living 600 years, ritual slaughter of animals as offerings to the gods, men rising from the dead, incestuous / familial relations to re-populate the planet.... good gawd, man,

 

[anynameyouwish]

"The fountains of the deep."

The Great Flood occurred, not only because of the rain, ite also says the earth "opened up" and released the "fountains of the deep."

Another huge OCEAN deep within gave up its water for a time.

Did Geologists Discover ‘Fountains of the Deep’ From Genesis Flood?

You know so much about SOME THINGS while knowing nothing at all about so much more.....

every mythology on record has a story about the flood....

a flood may have happened but it doesn't prove god exists.

It just proves there was a flood.

 

[bripat9643]

If you're so gullible as to believe a silly youtube video, utterly unsupported, that's your choice. Just don't presume to foist your gullibility on others

Tou should do your homework science denier. Do you think the intent of that video, or the article was to prove the flood?
Most idiots/tards think the flood was caused solely by 40 days of rain, but the truth is, GOD says he "opened the fountains of the deep."

The existence of this great body of water is FACT. Deny all you want, denier.

Rare Diamond Confirms That Earth's Mantle Holds an Ocean's Worth of Water

There’s as much water in Earth’s mantle as in all the oceans

Found! Hidden Ocean Locked Up Deep in Earth's Mantle

God doesn't say that. A book written by iron age nomads says that. The water exists, but where is the evidence that it spewed out of the Earth 5000 years ago?

 

[bripat9643]

The real problem is the ark that held thousands of animal pairs being only 50 feet long and 35 feet wide. And please do not forget the bible was created and written by humans to coerce slaves to not rebel or kill their masters or a multitude of other "crimes".

The ark wasn't even big enough to hold every species of insect.

That's why these guys didn't make the cut... thank heaven!

They were herbivores - nothing to be afraid of.

 

[bripat9643]

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The real problem is the ark that held thousands of animal pairs being only 50 feet long and 35 feet wide. And please do not forget the bible was created and written by humans to coerce slaves to not rebel or kill their masters or a multitude of other "crimes".

Was about 500 feet long moron. The rest is more tard nonsense.

Sure it was!

Noah's Ark: Sea Trials
Whether a wooden ship the size of Noah's Ark could be made seaworthy is in grave doubt. At 137 meters (450 feet), Noah's Ark would be the largest wooden vessel ever confirmed to have been built. In recorded history, some dozen or so wooden ships have been constructed over 90 meters; few have been successful. Even so, these wooden ships had a great advantage over Noah's Ark: their curved hull shapes. Stress loads are distributed much more efficiently over three dimensionally curved surfaces than they are over flat surfaces. But even with this advantage, real-world large wooden ships have had severe problems. The sailing ships the 100 meter Wyoming (sunk in 1924) and 99 meter Santiago (sunk in 1918) were so large that they flexed in the water, opening up seams in the hull and leaking. The 102 meter British warships HMS Orlando and HMS Mersey had such bad structural problems that they were scrapped in 1871 and 1875 after only a few years in service. Most of the largest wooden ships were, like Noah's Ark, unpowered barges. Yet even those built in modern times, such as the 103 meter Pretoria in 1901, required substantial amounts of steel reinforcement; and even then needed steam-powered pumps to fight the constant flex-induced leaking.

Even in the world of legend, only two other ships are said to have approached the size claimed for Noah's Ark. One was the Greek trireme Tessarakonteres at 127 meters, the length and existence of which is known only by the accounts of Plutarch and Athenaeus. Plutarch said of her:

But this ship was merely for show; and since she differed little from a stationary edifice on land, being meant for exhibition and not for use, she was moved only with difficulty and danger.

The other example is the largest of the Chinese treasure ships built by the admiral Zheng He in the 15th century, matching Noah's 137 meters, but only in the highest estimates. Many believe the biggest ships Zheng took with him on his seven voyages were no bigger than half that size, and moreover, that they remained behind in rivers and were not suitably seaworthy for ocean travels.

The long and the short of it — no pun intended — is that there's no precedent for a wooden ship the size of Noah's Ark being seaworthy, and plenty of naval engineering experience telling us that it wouldn't be expected to work. Even if pumps had been installed and all hands worked round the clock pumping, the Ark certainly would have leaked catastrophically, filled with water, and capsized.

The longest wooden ship ever recorded is the schooner Wyoming. It was 450 feet long. However, it had significant amounts of iron in it, so it's not a pure wooden ship.

100 meters seems to be about the max for a pure wooden ship.

 

[bripat9643]

The scoffers who reject that God released "the fountains of the deep" accept on FAITH that the universe created itself from nothing with a big bang

We don't make any claims about how the universe started. Only the creationists do that.

 

[bripat9643]

...Science and God. No need to exclude one to prove the other. They are mutual. Complex DNA, in single cell life, just shoots the shit out of the simple to complex theory. And, as far as diversifying, every time an evolutionary found a misshapen tooth they created a misshapen human to go with it.
Your Father is God Almighty, not Cheetah:

WTF is wrong with you goofy?
There is NO Evidence, much less proof, of god/gods.The scientist is possessed by the sense of universal causation....His religious feeling takes the form of a rapturous amazement at the harmony of natural law, which reveals an INTELLIGENCE of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.
No reason to bring it/him/they in.
YOU are "Exclusive of science".

Then please pick your god/dog because there are so many different gods/creation Myths.
At least 75% of believers are necessarily wrong even if one stepped in it.
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Let's ask Einstein:
"The scientist is possessed by the sense of universal causation....His religious feeling takes the form of a rapturous amazement at the harmony of natural law, which reveals an INTELLIGENCE of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection."
There ya go... The compatibility of science and God.

And here is the evidence you seek in proving God:
He compiled a book that is 1/4 future predictions spanning thousands of years. And they have all been spot on. Over 10,000 of them. That requires being able to traverse dimensions (that science just found, and that Christ was described in the Bible as doing 2 thousand years before Hawking).

Now, keeping in mind that if you are wrong we get to stone you to death, tell me what horse will win the next Breeders Cup . Better yet, increase your odds. Ask your dog...

That's horse manure. None of the so-called "predictions" are accurate. Believers contort them so much that they are unrecognizable.

 

[The Irish Ram]

The Dead Sea Scrolls prove you wrong. The age of the scrolls prove that no one contorted anything later. God's predictions are spot on. Here's just one example addressing your allegations specifically:

Some critics charge that the word "pierced" in Psalm 22:16 is an incorrect translation that Christians later imposed to make it look like the verse foreshadows the crucifixion. The critics claim that the proper rendering of the Hebrew should be, “Like a lion, they are at my hands and feet.” But this criticism is inaccurate and actually based on manuscript copies written much later.

The two Hebrew words for “pierced” and “lion” are similar but in the earliest Hebrew manuscripts by over a thousand years (the Dead Sea scrolls, 150 BC), the term is unmistakably “pierced”. So the idea that Christians added it later is impossible. There were no Christians in existence in 150 BC. Jesus hadn't even been born.

Not only were there no Christians in existence in 150 BC, there was no such thing as crucifixion either. No hand and feet piercing, No hanging people on trees. It was unheard of in 150 BC.

You can't even tell me what is going to happen tomorrow....

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The Dead Sea Scrolls prove you wrong.

What a ridiculous notion. That is like saying that the book of James proves the book of genesis is factual. This is really , truly embarrassingly bad logic.

 

[bripat9643]

The Dead Sea Scrolls prove you wrong. The age of the scrolls prove that no one contorted anything later. God's predictions are spot on. Here's just one example addressing your allegations specifically:

Some critics charge that the word "pierced" in Psalm 22:16 is an incorrect translation that Christians later imposed to make it look like the verse foreshadows the crucifixion. The critics claim that the proper rendering of the Hebrew should be, “Like a lion, they are at my hands and feet.” But this criticism is inaccurate and actually based on manuscript copies written much later.

The two Hebrew words for “pierced” and “lion” are similar but in the earliest Hebrew manuscripts by over a thousand years (the Dead Sea scrolls, 150 BC), the term is unmistakably “pierced”. So the idea that Christians added it later is impossible. There were no Christians in existence in 150 BC. Jesus hadn't even been born.

Not only were there no Christians in existence in 150 BC, there was no such thing as crucifixion either. No hand and feet piercing, No hanging people on trees. It was unheard of in 150 BC.

You can't even tell me what is going to happen tomorrow....

Please quote the passage that makes the prediction.

 

[alang1216]

Not only were there no Christians in existence in 150 BC, there was no such thing as crucifixion either. No hand and feet piercing, No hanging people on trees. It was unheard of in 150 BC.

FYI:

The Greeks were generally opposed to performing crucifixions.[67] However, in his Histories, ix.120–122, the Greek writer Herodotus describes the execution of a Persian general at the hands of Athenians in about 479 BC: "They nailed him to a plank and hung him up ... this Artayctes who suffered death by crucifixion."[68] The Commentary on Herodotus by How and Wells remarks: "They crucified him with hands and feet stretched out and nailed to cross-pieces; cf. vii.33. This barbarity, unusual on the part of Greeks, may be explained by the enormity of the outrage or by Athenian deference to local feeling."[69]

The Jewish king Alexander Jannaeus, king of Judea from 103 BC to 76 BC, crucified 800 rebels, said to be Pharisees, in the middle of Jerusalem.[72][73]

Alexander the Great is reputed to have crucified 2,000 survivors from his siege of the Phoenician city of Tyre,[74]​

 

[evenflow1969]

Science sure does upset the God Haters!

No. Science is simply not concerned with supernaturalism. Nothing in nature depicts supernaturalism. Every discovery in science has had a natural explanation.

Can you identify a single instance of supernaturalism - something in the natural world that has supernatural underpinnings. Belief in magic and superstition is irrational. There's no reason to accept magic and supernaturalism in place of well defined knowledge of the natural world.

Please rationalize special relitivity and and quantum entanglement then. Instantanious action from billions of light years away sure seems supernatural. Gving it a name and recognizing it's existance is a far cry from describing the mechanics of it.

 

[Hollie]

Science sure does upset the God Haters!

No. Science is simply not concerned with supernaturalism. Nothing in nature depicts supernaturalism. Every discovery in science has had a natural explanation.

Can you identify a single instance of supernaturalism - something in the natural world that has supernatural underpinnings. Belief in magic and superstition is irrational. There's no reason to accept magic and supernaturalism in place of well defined knowledge of the natural world.

Please rationalize special relitivity and and quantum entanglement then. Instantanious action from billions of light years away sure seems supernatural. Gving it a name and recognizing it's existance is a far cry from describing the mechanics of it.

Well, if it seems supernatural, it must be.

Your well researched and thoughtful argument seems to have convinced me.

 

[evenflow1969]

Science sure does upset the God Haters!

No. Science is simply not concerned with supernaturalism. Nothing in nature depicts supernaturalism. Every discovery in science has had a natural explanation.

Can you identify a single instance of supernaturalism - something in the natural world that has supernatural underpinnings. Belief in magic and superstition is irrational. There's no reason to accept magic and supernaturalism in place of well defined knowledge of the natural world.

Please rationalize special relitivity and and quantum entanglement then. Instantanious action from billions of light years away sure seems supernatural. Gving it a name and recognizing it's existance is a far cry from describing the mechanics of it.

Well, if it seems supernatural, it must be.

Your well researched and thoughtful argument seems to have convinced me.

I am not saying that I agree with the bible and it's time line, but the informed realizes that not all is yet explained. I have yet to see an attempt at your rationalization.

 

[evenflow1969]

Science sure does upset the God Haters!

No. Science is simply not concerned with supernaturalism. Nothing in nature depicts supernaturalism. Every discovery in science has had a natural explanation.

Can you identify a single instance of supernaturalism - something in the natural world that has supernatural underpinnings. Belief in magic and superstition is irrational. There's no reason to accept magic and supernaturalism in place of well defined knowledge of the natural world.

Please rationalize special relitivity and and quantum entanglement then. Instantanious action from billions of light years away sure seems supernatural. Gving it a name and recognizing it's existance is a far cry from describing the mechanics of it.

Well, if it seems supernatural, it must be.

Your well researched and thoughtful argument seems to have convinced me.

For instance have you considered the odds on your living in a biological relm verses a simulated one?
Is our world a simulation? Why some scientists say it's more likely than not
If one were to exist in a simulated realm would not the programers and the code laws be an approximation of god in the bible.? Would it not be possible that rules and consditions set fourth in the bible could be the coded rules of the simulation. It is not quite as far fetched as it might seem.
PS After seeing the new and improved double slit experiments I have come to a conclusion that all possibilities exist and I will not figure out which possible out come I am a part of, thinking I already have the answers.

 

[james bond]

If you're so gullible as to believe a silly youtube video, utterly unsupported, that's your choice. Just don't presume to foist your gullibility on others

Tou should do your homework science denier. Do you think the intent of that video, or the article was to prove the flood?
Most idiots/tards think the flood was caused solely by 40 days of rain, but the truth is, GOD says he "opened the fountains of the deep."

The existence of this great body of water is FACT. Deny all you want, denier.

Rare Diamond Confirms That Earth's Mantle Holds an Ocean's Worth of Water

There’s as much water in Earth’s mantle as in all the oceans

Found! Hidden Ocean Locked Up Deep in Earth's Mantle

God doesn't say that. A book written by iron age nomads says that. The water exists, but where is the evidence that it spewed out of the Earth 5000 years ago?

It's God as only eyewitness evidence. There is evidence of marine fossils on top of Mt. Everest and the Himalayas were formed then. How else does a planet get covered by 3/4 water on the surface? There is no other planet like it in the universe. Just like aliens, you won't find a planet like it. You'll die like Carl Sagan, Stephen Hawking and the other schmoes who believed in aliens and watery surfaced planets.

 

[evenflow1969]

If you're so gullible as to believe a silly youtube video, utterly unsupported, that's your choice. Just don't presume to foist your gullibility on others

Tou should do your homework science denier. Do you think the intent of that video, or the article was to prove the flood?
Most idiots/tards think the flood was caused solely by 40 days of rain, but the truth is, GOD says he "opened the fountains of the deep."

The existence of this great body of water is FACT. Deny all you want, denier.

Rare Diamond Confirms That Earth's Mantle Holds an Ocean's Worth of Water

There’s as much water in Earth’s mantle as in all the oceans

Found! Hidden Ocean Locked Up Deep in Earth's Mantle

God doesn't say that. A book written by iron age nomads says that. The water exists, but where is the evidence that it spewed out of the Earth 5000 years ago?

It's God as only eyewitness evidence. There is evidence of marine fossils on top of Mt. Everest and the Himalayas were formed then. How else does a planet get covered by 3/4 water on the surface? There is no other planet like it in the universe. Just like aliens, you won't find a planet like it. You'll die like Carl Sagan, Stephen Hawking and the other schmoes who believed in aliens and watery surfaced planets.

I think I might have broke Hollie!

 

[Hollie]

Science sure does upset the God Haters!

No. Science is simply not concerned with supernaturalism. Nothing in nature depicts supernaturalism. Every discovery in science has had a natural explanation.

Can you identify a single instance of supernaturalism - something in the natural world that has supernatural underpinnings. Belief in magic and superstition is irrational. There's no reason to accept magic and supernaturalism in place of well defined knowledge of the natural world.

Please rationalize special relitivity and and quantum entanglement then. Instantanious action from billions of light years away sure seems supernatural. Gving it a name and recognizing it's existance is a far cry from describing the mechanics of it.

Well, if it seems supernatural, it must be.

Your well researched and thoughtful argument seems to have convinced me.

For instance have you considered the odds on your living in a biological relm verses a simulated one?
Is our world a simulation? Why some scientists say it's more likely than not
If one were to exist in a simulated realm would not the programers and the code laws be an approximation of god in the bible.? Would it not be possible that rules and consditions set fourth in the bible could be the coded rules of the simulation. It is not quite as far fetched as it might seem.
PS After seeing the new and improved double slit experiments I have come to a conclusion that all possibilities exist and I will not figure out which possible out come I am a part of, thinking I already have the answers.

I note the article primarily focuses on Elon Musk and Silicon Valley tech folks who subscribe to your simulation world.

Not exactly the folks who are offering anything to support such claims.

 

[Hollie]

If you're so gullible as to believe a silly youtube video, utterly unsupported, that's your choice. Just don't presume to foist your gullibility on others

Tou should do your homework science denier. Do you think the intent of that video, or the article was to prove the flood?
Most idiots/tards think the flood was caused solely by 40 days of rain, but the truth is, GOD says he "opened the fountains of the deep."

The existence of this great body of water is FACT. Deny all you want, denier.

Rare Diamond Confirms That Earth's Mantle Holds an Ocean's Worth of Water

There’s as much water in Earth’s mantle as in all the oceans

Found! Hidden Ocean Locked Up Deep in Earth's Mantle

God doesn't say that. A book written by iron age nomads says that. The water exists, but where is the evidence that it spewed out of the Earth 5000 years ago?

It's God as only eyewitness evidence. There is evidence of marine fossils on top of Mt. Everest and the Himalayas were formed then. How else does a planet get covered by 3/4 water on the surface? There is no other planet like it in the universe. Just like aliens, you won't find a planet like it. You'll die like Carl Sagan, Stephen Hawking and the other schmoes who believed in aliens and watery surfaced planets.

I think I might have broke Hollie!

I think you give yourself too much credit for cutting and pasting.

 

[Hollie]

If you're so gullible as to believe a silly youtube video, utterly unsupported, that's your choice. Just don't presume to foist your gullibility on others

Tou should do your homework science denier. Do you think the intent of that video, or the article was to prove the flood?
Most idiots/tards think the flood was caused solely by 40 days of rain, but the truth is, GOD says he "opened the fountains of the deep."

The existence of this great body of water is FACT. Deny all you want, denier.

Rare Diamond Confirms That Earth's Mantle Holds an Ocean's Worth of Water

There’s as much water in Earth’s mantle as in all the oceans

Found! Hidden Ocean Locked Up Deep in Earth's Mantle

God doesn't say that. A book written by iron age nomads says that. The water exists, but where is the evidence that it spewed out of the Earth 5000 years ago?

It's God as only eyewitness evidence. There is evidence of marine fossils on top of Mt. Everest and the Himalayas were formed then. How else does a planet get covered by 3/4 water on the surface? There is no other planet like it in the universe. Just like aliens, you won't find a planet like it. You'll die like Carl Sagan, Stephen Hawking and the other schmoes who believed in aliens and watery surfaced planets.

Mountains form by a geologic process known as uplift. Mount Everest is much older than 6,000 years, meaning that mountain chains are formed over geologic time framws being pushed upward over millions of years.