Science Proves the Bible Again

[LittleNipper]

Uh...what? You write like a child.

Humans are bipedal apes, you imbecile. And all the other apes are at least partially bipedal, and the newly discovered Bili ape appears to be mostly, if not completely, bipedal.

Just shut up, you fraud. You are embarrassing yourself.

All specimens in the human family tree going back almost 2 million years are fully bipedal.

Becoming Human: The Evolution of Walking Upright | Science | Smithsonian

The earliest hominid with the most extensive evidence for bipedalism is the 4.4-million-year-old Ardipithecus ramidus. In 2009, researchers announced the results of more than 15 years of analysis of the species and introduced the world to a nearly complete skeleton called Ardi.

Although the earliest hominids were capable of upright walking, they probably didn’t get around exactly as we do today. They retained primitive features—such as long, curved fingers and toes as well as longer arms and shorter legs—that indicate they spent time in trees. It’s not until the emergence of H. erectus 1.89 million years ago that hominids grew tall, evolved long legs and became completely terrestrial creatures.​

Your basic circular reasoning fallacy. That is evolution in-a-nutshell.

Before Ardi, you were claiming it was Lucy. What a contradiction!

No monkeys are bipedal today. If things in the present help find how things were in the past, then the past monkeys were not bipedal. They also have small cranial capacity like the past monkeys. We also do not see any monkeys becoming human. Humans are humans. Monkeys are monkeys even though you look like a monkey.

So you are wrong again.

"Macro evolution" is not a scientific term. It's hocus-pocus. There is only evolution. Not all science is experiments. Furthermore, evolution has been tested in the lab with bacteria. We have bacteria resistant to antibiotics because of evolution.

I got the term "macroevolutio" from -- Macroevolution. How stupid can you be???!!!???!!!

Furthermore, the answer has already been found circa 2011. Your so-called evolution is behind .

"The cfr gene resides on a plasmid (mobile element) and can easily be transferred from one bacterium to another. The cfr protein transfers chemical groups called methyl groups to the ribosome (protein-making factory) that prohibits antibiotics from binding to the ribosome but does not affect the function of the ribosome. The gene has been found in MRSA bacteria and helps bacteria resist seven classes of antibiotics. This gene is a very powerful ally to the bacteria! It is unknown whether S. sciuri obtained the gene from another bacteria or whether the cfr gene was original to the bacteria and may have acquired mutations that permitted it to still perform the function of methylation but in a way that allowed the bacteria to resist antibiotics. Either way, it is clearly not the evolution of a new gene from “scratch.” Rather, it is the modification of a current gene that is beneficial to the bacteria in the presence of antibiotics.

The scientist involved in the study stated, “What we've discovered here is so exciting because it represents a truly new chemical mechanism for methylation. We now have a very clear chemical picture of a very clever mechanism for antibiotic resistance that some bacteria have evolved.” Although the bacteria are obviously not “clever,” God in His infinite wisdom and grace designed bacteria with amazing mechanisms to allow them to adapt in a post-Fall world (see this article for more information). If the scientist by using the word evolved means “change,” then yes the bacteria have changed, but they have not evolved new genes that would help them evolve from a microbe into a man."

Bacteria Keep “Outsmarting” Antibiotics

Thats great about the gods designing bacteria. Be sure to thank them for designing the cancer cell. A masterstroke of design.

Holy guacamole!!! YOUR POST #556 IS THE STUPIDEST, STUPIDEST, STUPIDEST STATEMENT IN THE UNIVERSE!!!

I just DESTROYED whiny bripat9643 with his snobby evolution science experiment about bacteria and antibiotics. He may never show his beotchy face ever on USMB again. We know there was no NEW gene created. No modification with descent. Just modification. This shows intelligence behind the design as God has allowed. Further evidence of God. Furthermore, we learned that there is something in the antibiotic to allow the bacteria to change. This is the key, key, key. you looney tunes oaf.

A rather frantic tirade that addresses nothing. I've noticed that the hyper-religious tend to behave as you do (screeching rants), when their gods are held accountable.

Does this include bripat9643 and Fort Fun Indiana?

 

[Hollie]

And just when I was thinking I couldn’t be less impressed with you. Cancer isn’t a form of bacteria.

Try paying attention. My response was to the suggestion of the gods "designing" bacteria. Were the gods selective in their "designs" and not design the cancer cell?

Cancer cells were designed?

Bacteria was designed?

If we are to believe that the gods are responsible for all of creation then we have to accept that things are the way they are because the gods want them precisely this way.. And this includes a nasty and capricious nature which will kill people via floods and tornadoes and fires and earthquakes and disease etc., none of which are essential to a world created by the gods. They could have just as easily made things otherwise, they just didn't.

God created the smallpox and polio viruses to show humans how loving and benevolent he is.

GOD created benevolent organisms which may now harm individuals only because sin has corrupted everything in the environment including humanity.

That's a rather weak excuse. You are suggesting that many of the "omni's" that religionists slather on their gods are simply false.

Omnibenevolent gods could snap their magical digits and eliminate the cancer cell. They just don't. Why is that? Are your gods weak and ineffective? They just don't care?

Perhaps they're just busy with their administrative duties.

 

[james bond]

Uh...what? You write like a child.

Humans are bipedal apes, you imbecile. And all the other apes are at least partially bipedal, and the newly discovered Bili ape appears to be mostly, if not completely, bipedal.

Just shut up, you fraud. You are embarrassing yourself.

All specimens in the human family tree going back almost 2 million years are fully bipedal.

Becoming Human: The Evolution of Walking Upright | Science | Smithsonian

The earliest hominid with the most extensive evidence for bipedalism is the 4.4-million-year-old Ardipithecus ramidus. In 2009, researchers announced the results of more than 15 years of analysis of the species and introduced the world to a nearly complete skeleton called Ardi.

Although the earliest hominids were capable of upright walking, they probably didn’t get around exactly as we do today. They retained primitive features—such as long, curved fingers and toes as well as longer arms and shorter legs—that indicate they spent time in trees. It’s not until the emergence of H. erectus 1.89 million years ago that hominids grew tall, evolved long legs and became completely terrestrial creatures.​

Your basic circular reasoning fallacy. That is evolution in-a-nutshell.

Before Ardi, you were claiming it was Lucy. What a contradiction!

No monkeys are bipedal today. If things in the present help find how things were in the past, then the past monkeys were not bipedal. They also have small cranial capacity like the past monkeys. We also do not see any monkeys becoming human. Humans are humans. Monkeys are monkeys even though you look like a monkey.

So you are wrong again.

"Macro evolution" is not a scientific term. It's hocus-pocus. There is only evolution. Not all science is experiments. Furthermore, evolution has been tested in the lab with bacteria. We have bacteria resistant to antibiotics because of evolution.

I got the term "macroevolutio" from -- Macroevolution. How stupid can you be???!!!???!!!

Furthermore, the answer has already been found circa 2011. Your so-called evolution is behind .

"The cfr gene resides on a plasmid (mobile element) and can easily be transferred from one bacterium to another. The cfr protein transfers chemical groups called methyl groups to the ribosome (protein-making factory) that prohibits antibiotics from binding to the ribosome but does not affect the function of the ribosome. The gene has been found in MRSA bacteria and helps bacteria resist seven classes of antibiotics. This gene is a very powerful ally to the bacteria! It is unknown whether S. sciuri obtained the gene from another bacteria or whether the cfr gene was original to the bacteria and may have acquired mutations that permitted it to still perform the function of methylation but in a way that allowed the bacteria to resist antibiotics. Either way, it is clearly not the evolution of a new gene from “scratch.” Rather, it is the modification of a current gene that is beneficial to the bacteria in the presence of antibiotics.

The scientist involved in the study stated, “What we've discovered here is so exciting because it represents a truly new chemical mechanism for methylation. We now have a very clear chemical picture of a very clever mechanism for antibiotic resistance that some bacteria have evolved.” Although the bacteria are obviously not “clever,” God in His infinite wisdom and grace designed bacteria with amazing mechanisms to allow them to adapt in a post-Fall world (see this article for more information). If the scientist by using the word evolved means “change,” then yes the bacteria have changed, but they have not evolved new genes that would help them evolve from a microbe into a man."

Bacteria Keep “Outsmarting” Antibiotics

Thats great about the gods designing bacteria. Be sure to thank them for designing the cancer cell. A masterstroke of design.

Holy guacamole!!! YOUR POST #556 IS THE STUPIDEST, STUPIDEST, STUPIDEST STATEMENT IN THE UNIVERSE!!!

I just DESTROYED whiny bripat9643 with his snobby evolution science experiment about bacteria and antibiotics. He may never show his beotchy face ever on USMB again. We know there was no NEW gene created. No modification with descent. Just modification. This shows intelligence behind the design as God has allowed. Further evidence of God. Furthermore, we learned that there is something in the antibiotic to allow the bacteria to change. This is the key, key, key. you looney tunes oaf.

A rather frantic tirade that addresses nothing. I've noticed that the hyper-religious tend to behave as you do (screeching rants), when their gods are held accountable.

Just stop now. You are just adding to YOUR POST #556 IS THE STUPIDEST, STUPIDEST, STUPIDEST STATEMENT IN THE UNIVERSE!!!

Instead, why not provide evidence to counter how bacteria and antibiotics work that we found circa 2011? You can't because THERE WAS NO NEW GENE.

There were several things happening around then that made me question evolution such as how did asexual to sexual reproduction happen? The doubts all started with the single-cell and how proteins could form outside the cell when amino acids cannot form properly due to chilarity; It can only happen inside the cell.

Obviously, this colossal experimental finding disproving bripat9643's example should make you realize aha, I should stop doing what I have been typing and go regroup. Any intelligent person would do it. If something like this happened to me, then my face would turn read and I would go pray and ask for new wisdom. This actually did happen to me when I compared evolution.berkeley.edu to creation science circa 2011.

 

[james bond]

Fort Fun Indiana, where is the chicken that became a dinosaur? If that experiment doesn't happen, then it never did happen and never will happen. You have LIED and are WRONG once again. What kind of brain dead are you?

Chickens descend from theropod dinosaurs. They don’t become dinosaurs.

The atheist scientists are trying to reverse-engineer the chicken into a dinosaur because of their faith-based beliefs.

Reverse Engineering Birds’ Beaks Into Dinosaur Bones

Yeah well that was an interesting article but they won’t be creating dinosaurs. Just malformed chickens.

Yup, that's what happens with mutations. I think the experiment went from the beak to the legs. Fort Fun Indiana was so excited to hear that he thought Jurassic Park will be coming to some remote piece of land in his lifetime.

 

[Hollie]

All specimens in the human family tree going back almost 2 million years are fully bipedal.

Becoming Human: The Evolution of Walking Upright | Science | Smithsonian

The earliest hominid with the most extensive evidence for bipedalism is the 4.4-million-year-old Ardipithecus ramidus. In 2009, researchers announced the results of more than 15 years of analysis of the species and introduced the world to a nearly complete skeleton called Ardi.

Although the earliest hominids were capable of upright walking, they probably didn’t get around exactly as we do today. They retained primitive features—such as long, curved fingers and toes as well as longer arms and shorter legs—that indicate they spent time in trees. It’s not until the emergence of H. erectus 1.89 million years ago that hominids grew tall, evolved long legs and became completely terrestrial creatures.​

Your basic circular reasoning fallacy. That is evolution in-a-nutshell.

Before Ardi, you were claiming it was Lucy. What a contradiction!

No monkeys are bipedal today. If things in the present help find how things were in the past, then the past monkeys were not bipedal. They also have small cranial capacity like the past monkeys. We also do not see any monkeys becoming human. Humans are humans. Monkeys are monkeys even though you look like a monkey.

So you are wrong again.

"Macro evolution" is not a scientific term. It's hocus-pocus. There is only evolution. Not all science is experiments. Furthermore, evolution has been tested in the lab with bacteria. We have bacteria resistant to antibiotics because of evolution.

I got the term "macroevolutio" from -- Macroevolution. How stupid can you be???!!!???!!!

Furthermore, the answer has already been found circa 2011. Your so-called evolution is behind .

"The cfr gene resides on a plasmid (mobile element) and can easily be transferred from one bacterium to another. The cfr protein transfers chemical groups called methyl groups to the ribosome (protein-making factory) that prohibits antibiotics from binding to the ribosome but does not affect the function of the ribosome. The gene has been found in MRSA bacteria and helps bacteria resist seven classes of antibiotics. This gene is a very powerful ally to the bacteria! It is unknown whether S. sciuri obtained the gene from another bacteria or whether the cfr gene was original to the bacteria and may have acquired mutations that permitted it to still perform the function of methylation but in a way that allowed the bacteria to resist antibiotics. Either way, it is clearly not the evolution of a new gene from “scratch.” Rather, it is the modification of a current gene that is beneficial to the bacteria in the presence of antibiotics.

The scientist involved in the study stated, “What we've discovered here is so exciting because it represents a truly new chemical mechanism for methylation. We now have a very clear chemical picture of a very clever mechanism for antibiotic resistance that some bacteria have evolved.” Although the bacteria are obviously not “clever,” God in His infinite wisdom and grace designed bacteria with amazing mechanisms to allow them to adapt in a post-Fall world (see this article for more information). If the scientist by using the word evolved means “change,” then yes the bacteria have changed, but they have not evolved new genes that would help them evolve from a microbe into a man."

Bacteria Keep “Outsmarting” Antibiotics

Thats great about the gods designing bacteria. Be sure to thank them for designing the cancer cell. A masterstroke of design.

Holy guacamole!!! YOUR POST #556 IS THE STUPIDEST, STUPIDEST, STUPIDEST STATEMENT IN THE UNIVERSE!!!

I just DESTROYED whiny bripat9643 with his snobby evolution science experiment about bacteria and antibiotics. He may never show his beotchy face ever on USMB again. We know there was no NEW gene created. No modification with descent. Just modification. This shows intelligence behind the design as God has allowed. Further evidence of God. Furthermore, we learned that there is something in the antibiotic to allow the bacteria to change. This is the key, key, key. you looney tunes oaf.

A rather frantic tirade that addresses nothing. I've noticed that the hyper-religious tend to behave as you do (screeching rants), when their gods are held accountable.

Just stop now. You are just adding to YOUR POST #556 IS THE STUPIDEST, STUPIDEST, STUPIDEST STATEMENT IN THE UNIVERSE!!!

Instead, why not provide evidence to counter how bacteria and antibiotics work that we found circa 2011? You can't because THERE WAS NO NEW GENE.

There were several things happening around then that made me question evolution such as how did asexual to sexual reproduction happen? The doubts all started with the single-cell and how proteins could form outside the cell when amino acids cannot form properly due to chilarity; It can only happen inside the cell.

Obviously, this colossal experimental finding disproving bripat9643's example should make you realize aha, I should stop doing what I have been typing and go regroup. Any intelligent person would do it. If something like this happened to me, then my face would turn read and I would go pray and ask for new wisdom. This actually did happen to me when I compared evolution.berkeley.edu to creation science circa 2011.

A rather frantic tirade that addresses nothing. I've noticed that the hyper-religious tend to behave as you do (screeching rants), when their gods are held accountable

 

[DOTR]

It is rather ignorant to presume that cancer cells (or any other biological organism) would arbitrarily be eliminated.

.

You are a child who throws around words that seem impressive to you in your hatred. But, like a parrot, you don’t have any understanding of what you mimic by rote.

I am going to explain to you for the third time now (and the last) that cancer isn’t an organism.

That being said I have trouble deciding which of your illogical attempts to correct first. You are like a Russian nesting doll of ignorance.

Organisms are eliminated all the time. So are traits. (Once again...cancer is neither). Tails were eliminated in homida. Gills were eliminated in the lobed fish which colonized land. Legs were eliminated when even toed ungulates returned to the ocean to give rise to cetaceans. Eyes were eliminated in cave fish.
So it’s “ignorant” to assume only if you add “arbitrarily”....which you did. Because you are ignorant.
So “arbitrarily” aside...you make the claim that God shouldn’t have allowed cancer. Good. So what’s the alternative? Why would creatures evolve to have cancer? Isn’t the existence of cancer your stick to beat the possibility of creation?
Or do you have a third method outside special creation and evolution in mind?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You harp on Christians because they are unable to produce GOD in a test tube.

Complete nonsense you just made up. You have not a shred of evidence.

 

[DOTR]

Try paying attention. My response was to the suggestion of the gods "designing" bacteria. Were the gods selective in their "designs" and not design the cancer cell?

Cancer cells were designed?

Bacteria was designed?

If we are to believe that the gods are responsible for all of creation then we have to accept that things are the way they are because the gods want them precisely this way.. And this includes a nasty and capricious nature which will kill people via floods and tornadoes and fires and earthquakes and disease etc., none of which are essential to a world created by the gods. They could have just as easily made things otherwise, they just didn't.

God created the smallpox and polio viruses to show humans how loving and benevolent he is.

GOD created benevolent organisms which may now harm individuals only because sin has corrupted everything in the environment including humanity.

That's a rather weak excuse. You are suggesting that many of the "omni's" that religionists slather on their gods are simply false.

Omnibenevolent gods could snap their magical digits and eliminate the cancer cell. They just don't. Why is that? Are your gods weak and ineffective? They just don't care?

Perhaps they're just busy with their administrative duties.

The Christian God is (1) omnipresent (2) omniscient and (3)omnipotent.

What God did you just make up that is “omnibenevolent”?

 

[DOTR]

You harp on Christians because they are unable to produce GOD in a test tube.

Complete nonsense you just made up. You have not a shred of evidence.

Can you know that?

 

[bripat9643]

What impresses you as brilliant questions are really just the stock shallow sophistries of the puritan atheist.
If God created cancer then your inability to understand the reasons is hardly enough to sow doubt in my mind. God didn’t meet your standards for creation? Let’s see your improved version.

Put another way..if there is no reason for cancer, and no God, then why hasnt evolution eliminated it? (I know the answer. But you wouldn’t would you?)

Why shouldn't we be able to understand the reasons? Isn't God subject to the rules of logic like the creatures he created? The Christian believer always attempts to wave away questions about God's justification for what he does as "a mystery of faith." Sorry, but only a believer is going to accept that answer. If you can't explain why a rational god might do a particular thing, then you admit he's irrational, not perfect, and tyrannical.

Science doesn't pretend to have an explanation for everything. Only Christians do that.

However, one reason cancer still exists is the fact that it generally occurs later in life after people have already reproduced. It therefor doesn't affect the survival of the species. Combating cancer may take more resources than it's worth to the organism.

 

[bripat9643]

Cancer cells were designed?

Bacteria was designed?

If we are to believe that the gods are responsible for all of creation then we have to accept that things are the way they are because the gods want them precisely this way.. And this includes a nasty and capricious nature which will kill people via floods and tornadoes and fires and earthquakes and disease etc., none of which are essential to a world created by the gods. They could have just as easily made things otherwise, they just didn't.

God created the smallpox and polio viruses to show humans how loving and benevolent he is.

GOD created benevolent organisms which may now harm individuals only because sin has corrupted everything in the environment including humanity.

That's a rather weak excuse. You are suggesting that many of the "omni's" that religionists slather on their gods are simply false.

Omnibenevolent gods could snap their magical digits and eliminate the cancer cell. They just don't. Why is that? Are your gods weak and ineffective? They just don't care?

Perhaps they're just busy with their administrative duties.

The Christian God is (1) omnipresent (2) omniscient and (3)omnipotent.

What God did you just make up that is “omnibenevolent”?

If God is omniscient, then how can humans have free will?

 

[bripat9643]

The Bible claims that Jesus is the light of the world. The Bible in Revelations also states that there will be no need for the Sun because GOD will be the light. Imagine for a moment that GOD created light and then He establish a source for that light. The reality would be that any star, even trillions of miles away, would already become a source of light already reaching planet earth. In other words, before any problem or knowledge of the speed of light was known by man, GOD through HIS WORD, demonstrated the logical solution.

Why did the gods put the stars millions of light years away to make the appearance of a vast and old universe?

Those gawds, they're such kidders.

It seems God is always trying to fool us.

I think God leaves the fools to their own devices.

Explain why god made it appear that the universe is billions of years old when it's really only a few thousand years old.

 

[Hollie]

It is rather ignorant to presume that cancer cells (or any other biological organism) would arbitrarily be eliminated.

.

You are a child who throws around words that seem impressive to you in your hatred. But, like a parrot, you don’t have any understanding of what you mimic by rote.

I am going to explain to you for the third time now now (and the last) that cancer isn’t an organism.

That being said I have trouble deciding which of your illogical attempts to correct first. You are like a Russian nesting doll of ignorance.

Organisms are eliminated all the time. So are traits. (Once again...cancer is neither). Tails were eliminated in homida. Gills were eliminated in the lobed fish which colonized land. Legs were eliminated when even toed ungulates returned to the ocean to give rise to cetaceans. Eyes were eliminated in cave fish.
So it’s “ignorant” to assume only if you add “arbitrarily”....which you did. Because you are ignorant.
So “arbitrarily” aside...you make the claim that God shouldn’t have allowed cancer. Good. So what’s the alternative? Why would creatures evolve to have cancer? Isn’t the existence of cancer your stick to beat the possibility of creation?
Or do you have a third method outside special creation and evolution in mind?

You're a bit of the stereotypical angry religionist who is befuddled by the science he doesn't understand. I make no claims as to what the gods should or should not have created.

As your gods are the author of all, they are responsible for all and that includes their incompetent "designs".

 

[bripat9643]

Try paying attention. My response was to the suggestion of the gods "designing" bacteria. Were the gods selective in their "designs" and not design the cancer cell?

Cancer cells were designed?

Bacteria was designed?

If we are to believe that the gods are responsible for all of creation then we have to accept that things are the way they are because the gods want them precisely this way.. And this includes a nasty and capricious nature which will kill people via floods and tornadoes and fires and earthquakes and disease etc., none of which are essential to a world created by the gods. They could have just as easily made things otherwise, they just didn't.

God created the smallpox and polio viruses to show humans how loving and benevolent he is.

GOD created benevolent organisms which may now harm individuals only because sin has corrupted everything in the environment including humanity.

That's a rather weak excuse. You are suggesting that many of the "omni's" that religionists slather on their gods are simply false.

Omnibenevolent gods could snap their magical digits and eliminate the cancer cell. They just don't. Why is that? Are your gods weak and ineffective? They just don't care?

Perhaps they're just busy with their administrative duties.

It's one of the many mysteries of faith, don't ya know.

 

[Hollie]

Cancer cells were designed?

Bacteria was designed?

If we are to believe that the gods are responsible for all of creation then we have to accept that things are the way they are because the gods want them precisely this way.. And this includes a nasty and capricious nature which will kill people via floods and tornadoes and fires and earthquakes and disease etc., none of which are essential to a world created by the gods. They could have just as easily made things otherwise, they just didn't.

God created the smallpox and polio viruses to show humans how loving and benevolent he is.

GOD created benevolent organisms which may now harm individuals only because sin has corrupted everything in the environment including humanity.

That's a rather weak excuse. You are suggesting that many of the "omni's" that religionists slather on their gods are simply false.

Omnibenevolent gods could snap their magical digits and eliminate the cancer cell. They just don't. Why is that? Are your gods weak and ineffective? They just don't care?

Perhaps they're just busy with their administrative duties.

The Christian God is (1) omnipresent (2) omniscient and (3)omnipotent.

What God did you just make up that is “omnibenevolent”?

Human attributes assigned to gods crested by man. The omnibenevolent or "all loving" attribute is an attribute typically assigned to the Christian gods. Your limitations to your gods is an argument you need to have with other Christians.

Caliber of weapons and quantity of ammunition will resolve that dilemma.

 

[DOTR]

The Bible claims that Jesus is the light of the world. The Bible in Revelations also states that there will be no need for the Sun because GOD will be the light. Imagine for a moment that GOD created light and then He establish a source for that light. The reality would be that any star, even trillions of miles away, would already become a source of light already reaching planet earth. In other words, before any problem or knowledge of the speed of light was known by man, GOD through HIS WORD, demonstrated the logical solution.

Why did the gods put the stars millions of light years away to make the appearance of a vast and old universe?

Those gawds, they're such kidders.

It seems God is always trying to fool us.

I think God leaves the fools to their own devices.

Explain why god made it appear that the universe is billions of years old when it's really only a few thousand years old.

Because it’s billions of years old?

 

[DOTR]

Fort Fun Indiana, where is the chicken that became a dinosaur? If that experiment doesn't happen, then it never did happen and never will happen. You have LIED and are WRONG once again. What kind of brain dead are you?

Chickens descend from theropod dinosaurs. They don’t become dinosaurs.

The atheist scientists are trying to reverse-engineer the chicken into a dinosaur because of their faith-based beliefs.

Reverse Engineering Birds’ Beaks Into Dinosaur Bones

Yeah well that was an interesting article but they won’t be creating dinosaurs. Just malformed chickens.

Yup, that's what happens with mutations. I think the experiment went from the beak to the legs. Fort Fun Indiana was so excited to hear that he thought Jurassic Park will be coming to some remote piece of land in his lifetime.

Well all in fun but...I never saw fort fun Indiana claim he thinks Jurassic park exists.

 

[bripat9643]

The Bible claims that Jesus is the light of the world. The Bible in Revelations also states that there will be no need for the Sun because GOD will be the light. Imagine for a moment that GOD created light and then He establish a source for that light. The reality would be that any star, even trillions of miles away, would already become a source of light already reaching planet earth. In other words, before any problem or knowledge of the speed of light was known by man, GOD through HIS WORD, demonstrated the logical solution.

Why did the gods put the stars millions of light years away to make the appearance of a vast and old universe?

Those gawds, they're such kidders.

It seems God is always trying to fool us.

I think God leaves the fools to their own devices.

Explain why god made it appear that the universe is billions of years old when it's really only a few thousand years old.

Because it’s billions of years old?

So you aren't a creationist then?

 

[DOTR]

Why shouldn't we be able to understand the reasons?

That’s a childlike cry isn’t it? i can’t answer it except to say that you are a limited creature...not the creator. When and if you gain that understanding of the Universe I may just be the first to bow to you.

Isn't God subject to the rules of logic like the creatures he created?

Not in my religion. That sounds more like a Platonic concept. I don’t begrudge them their belief however.

The Christian believer always attempts to wave away questions about God's justification for what he does as "a mystery of faith." Sorry, but only a believer is going to accept that answer.

Only an adult would accept the answer “I don’t know”. But I wouldn’t call it “a mystery of faith “ either. If you are speaking of Mysterium fidei that is entirely different. The Trinity is a mystery of faith.

How is it you feel that a religious belief must entitle the believer to become omniscient?

If you can't explain why a rational god might do a particular thing, then you admit he's irrational, not perfect, and tyrannical.

That’s pretty narcissistic. God satisfies you or *He* is the irrational one? Humans are complete in their knowledge and Spocklike in their rationality?

Science doesn't pretend to have an explanation for everything. Only Christians do that.

Your caricature and a comforting straw man to you. I believe Paul spoke directly to God but I doubt they ever discussed protein folding.

However, one reason cancer still exists is the fact that it generally occurs later in life after people have already reproduced. It therefor doesn't affect the survival of the species. Combating cancer may take more resources than it's worth to the organism.

No point in eliminating genes that are harmful only after we are statistically dead. A little more complicated than that but let’s agree here.

My point being that what looks to us like a fault may in fact be the best choice

 

[DOTR]

Bacteria was designed?

If we are to believe that the gods are responsible for all of creation then we have to accept that things are the way they are because the gods want them precisely this way.. And this includes a nasty and capricious nature which will kill people via floods and tornadoes and fires and earthquakes and disease etc., none of which are essential to a world created by the gods. They could have just as easily made things otherwise, they just didn't.

God created the smallpox and polio viruses to show humans how loving and benevolent he is.

GOD created benevolent organisms which may now harm individuals only because sin has corrupted everything in the environment including humanity.

That's a rather weak excuse. You are suggesting that many of the "omni's" that religionists slather on their gods are simply false.

Omnibenevolent gods could snap their magical digits and eliminate the cancer cell. They just don't. Why is that? Are your gods weak and ineffective? They just don't care?

Perhaps they're just busy with their administrative duties.

The Christian God is (1) omnipresent (2) omniscient and (3)omnipotent.

What God did you just make up that is “omnibenevolent”?

If God is omniscient, then how can humans have free will?

I never claimed we did.