Saudi Arabia holds a Royal Flush over America.

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Are you all willing to go to war over a single individual?

How do you figure World War I started bud ? All it takes is a trigger. Archduke Franz Ferdinand ring a bell ?

This time the guy's name is Jamal Khashoggi. With his execution he lands in the middle of a moral principles vs CASH debate which will define the future of post-WWII democracies and whether America will still be viewed as a shining city upon a hill. Now wear your Trump glasses and ask yourself if you'll take the cash?

Britain, France, Ireland and Russia were part of an alliance called the Triple Entente, while Germany aligned itself with Austria-Hungary – known as the Central Powers. The assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand in Sarajevo on 28th June 1914, it triggered a chain of events that resulted in World War 1.

Ferdinand was a lot more important than this unknown

It boggles my mind that we are willing to put our economy on the line for a single individual who isn't even a citizen.

It boggles the mind that morality has a price tag for you.

Pretty sure you voted for Hildabeast so you have no room to talk about compromising morality.

 

[Tehon]

Trump has made it clear that profit is more important than human life

That isn't just Trump. That is America.

 

[deanrd]

Saudi could quite easily drive our economy straight into the shitter with their control over oil.

How the hell do we avoid the inevitable disaster that may well result from any consequences we try to impose on them?
And why does every Americans financial well being have to be tied to a solitary individual who is not even an American citizen and did not die on American soil?

Are you all willing to goto war over a single individual?

We went into a war over a lie. Think Iraq and thank the GOP president.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Saudi could quite easily drive our economy straight into the shitter with their control over oil.

How the hell do we avoid the inevitable disaster that may well result from any consequences we try to impose on them?
And why does every Americans financial well being have to be tied to a solitary individual who is not even an American citizen and did not die on American soil?

Are you all willing to goto war over a single individual?

We went into a war over a lie. Think Iraq and thank the GOP president.

Booooooosh!

 

[deanrd]

Saudi could quite easily drive our economy straight into the shitter with their control over oil.

How the hell do we avoid the inevitable disaster that may well result from any consequences we try to impose on them?
And why does every Americans financial well being have to be tied to a solitary individual who is not even an American citizen and did not die on American soil?

Are you all willing to goto war over a single individual?

**** you.

Take OUR SIDE for a change.

Trump is not on OUR SIDE here.

Trump is not even on the side of his own GOP base. But they are so fuking stupid they don’t even know it.
Those poor white Americans, when Trump looks at them he spits on them. They are so deluded they open their mouths and call it manna from heaven.

 

[deanrd]

Saudi could quite easily drive our economy straight into the shitter with their control over oil.

How the hell do we avoid the inevitable disaster that may well result from any consequences we try to impose on them?
And why does every Americans financial well being have to be tied to a solitary individual who is not even an American citizen and did not die on American soil?

Are you all willing to goto war over a single individual?

We went into a war over a lie. Think Iraq and thank the GOP president.

Booooooosh!

Oh, you remember his name?
How did that work out for you?

 

[Obama2020]

Trump has made it clear that profit is more important than human life

That isn't just Trump. That is America.

I figure your 'Merica' right now is at best 15% of the population (Trump core). I've got my eyes on the mid-terms. That's when 'Merica really defines itself.

Pushed against the wall, centrists, independents and left wingers should be at the polls in a big way. Not to mention a ton of 'horseface' revolted Repub women will also weigh in the balance.

 

[Dschrute3]

Saudi could quite easily drive our economy straight into the shitter with their control over oil.

How the hell do we avoid the inevitable disaster that may well result from any consequences we try to impose on them?
And why does every Americans financial well being have to be tied to a solitary individual who is not even an American citizen and did not die on American soil?

Are you all willing to goto war over a single individual?

It's not 1972 anymore. America exports more crude oil than Saudi Arabia does.

DERP

Oblivious to world markets too?

If OPEC boycotts oil production it will affect prices, but there will not be a shortage. Again, America is energy independent. We produce more oil than we consume.

Again, America is energy independent. We produce more oil than we consume.

We produce about 11 million barrels of crude a day.
We consume over 19 million barrels a day.

Oil Imports and Exports - Energy Explained, Your Guide To Understanding Energy - Energy Information Administration

Not nearly enough to satisfy Americans' consumption.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Saudi could quite easily drive our economy straight into the shitter with their control over oil.

How the hell do we avoid the inevitable disaster that may well result from any consequences we try to impose on them?
And why does every Americans financial well being have to be tied to a solitary individual who is not even an American citizen and did not die on American soil?

Are you all willing to goto war over a single individual?

We went into a war over a lie. Think Iraq and thank the GOP president.

Booooooosh!

Oh, you remember his name?
How did that work out for you?

How can anyone forget after 8 years of you incessant whining and crying about him WHEN OBAMA WAS PRESIDENT.
And how did it work out? I made a fuckton of money under Boooooosh. Then when Obama won the nomination it all went to shit. Those are the facts rderp. Now cry more

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Merica

Merica? You one of those Obama ghetto voters who can't grasp proper English?

 

[Siete]

Saudi could quite easily drive our economy straight into the shitter with their control over oil.

How the hell do we avoid the inevitable disaster that may well result from any consequences we try to impose on them?
And why does every Americans financial well being have to be tied to a solitary individual who is not even an American citizen and did not die on American soil?

Are you all willing to goto war over a single individual?

We went into a war over a lie. Think Iraq and thank the GOP president.

Booooooosh!

Oh, you remember his name?
How did that work out for you?

How can anyone forget after 8 years of you incessant whining and crying about him WHEN OBAMA WAS PRESIDENT.
And how did it work out? I made a fuckton of money under Boooooosh. Then when Obama won the nomination it all went to shit. Those are the facts rderp. Now cry more

you made a fuckton of money ??

yeah that recession was a real wallet stuffer wasnt it.

 

[Tehon]

Trump has made it clear that profit is more important than human life

That isn't just Trump. That is America.

I figure your 'Merica' right now is at best 15% of the population (Trump core). I've got my eyes on the mid-terms. That's when 'Merica really defines itself.

Pushed against the wall, centrists, independents and left wingers should be at the polls in a big way. Not to mention a ton of 'horseface' revolted Repub women will also weigh in the balance.

America has already defined itself as ambivalent on the human rights abuses of those it partners with. Generally, the only time it becomes an issue is when you are the minority party. Democrats are useless.

 

[Obama2020]

America has already defined itself as ambivalent on the human rights abuses of those it partners with. Generally, the only time it becomes an issue is when you are the minority party. Democrats are useless.

When you say America you obviously mean Trump's definition of 'Merica.

After a short break, the real 'Merica is comin back online November 6th dude. With 41% approval rate, this one's on his horse ass.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

Saudi could quite easily drive our economy straight into the shitter with their control over oil.

How the hell do we avoid the inevitable disaster that may well result from any consequences we try to impose on them?
And why does every Americans financial well being have to be tied to a solitary individual who is not even an American citizen and did not die on American soil?

Are you all willing to goto war over a single individual?

Besides Trump's enchantment with autocrats (details above) there is another facet to all this.

Is there a pattern here? “Saudi Arabia, I get along with all of them. They buy apartments from me. They spend $40 million, $50 million,” Trump once told a crowd at an Alabama rally during the election campaign.

In 2001, Trump sold the entire 45th floor of the Trump World Tower across from the United Nations in New York for $12 million, the biggest purchase in that building to that point, according to the brokerage site Streeteasy. The buyer: The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

"For the record, I have no financial interests in Saudi Arabia (or Russia, for that matter). Any suggestion that I have is just more FAKE NEWS (of which there is plenty)!" Trump tweeted today.

He does not have financial interests in Saudi Arabia, but he has deep Saudi financial interests in the United States. A Saudi billionaire, Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, purchased his yacht from Trump and a stake in New York's Plaza Hotel in the 1990s bailing out Trump from financial distress. A public relations firm working for the kingdom spent nearly $270,000 on lodging and catering at his Washington hotel near the Oval Office through March of last year, according to filings to the Justice Department. That is in addition to the financial interests already described.

So, it is no surprise that Trump first tried this ludicrous gambit to protect the king and the crown prince. “The king firmly denied any knowledge of it. I don't want to get into (Salman’s) mind,” but he added, “it sounded to me like maybe these could have been rogue killers."

Yeah, right. That went over like a lead balloon.

Now he says, "And it depends whether or not the King [Salman] or Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman knew about it, in my opinion. Number one, what happened, but whether or not they knew about it." No doubt, the king and the crown prince will deny knowing anything about the murder beforehand. Trump can determine whether or not they are being truthful and he will respond accordingly. Reader can decide what that means in light of Trump's financial interests.

"Here we go again with you're guilty until proven innocent," Trump said in an interview today.

In July, a federal judge rejected Trump’s latest effort to stop a lawsuit that alleges Trump is violating the Constitution by continuing to do business with foreign governments.

Is there any doubt that Trump's financial interests have an impact on his judgment concerning foreign governments like Saudi Arabia?

 

[Sandy Shanks]

The obligatory Republicans are speaking up on cue concerning the murder of the Washington Post journalist.

Senator Bob Corker has said, "If it's found that they, as everything indicates today ... murdered a journalist, that will hugely change our relationship. I mean, there's no question about it," Corker told reporters, adding, "I think they did it and I think, unfortunately, he's deceased."

Senator Lindsey Graham stated, “I’m not going back to Saudi Arabia as long as this guy is in charge,” Graham said of bin Salman. “I’ve been their biggest defender on the floor of the United States Senate. This guy is a wrecking ball. He had [Khashoggi] murdered in a consulate in Turkey and to expect me to ignore it, I feel used and abused. The MBS figure is to me toxic, he can never be a world leader on the world stage.”

Senator Marco Rubio made this contribution for the cause. "I don't care how much money it is. There isn't enough money in the world to purchase back our credibility on human rights and the way nations should conduct themselves."

This is strictly for public consumption to give gullible Americans the impression the GOP is on their side. This has all happened before, several times, especially when Trump steps on it. It happened after Trump's bigoted remarks after Charlottesville. It happened after Singapore when Trump gushed about Kim after giving away the ranch and getting nothing in return. It happened after Trump's incredulous comments at Helsinki when he declined American intelligence and accepted the word of a communist dictator because he sounded sincere. Prominent Republicans object. Nothing changes.

This showy performance by Rubio, Graham, and Corker does not mean a damn thing. The GOP leadership will do what it has always done in the past. It will put a rubber stamp on whatever Trump decides to do, no matter how self-serving his decision may be, and Trump's business connections to the Saudis will be swept under the rug.

American voters will lift up that rug and vote accordingly on Nov. 6. Maybe they will think something is wrong if American foreign policy is being bought by the Saudis. They will be watching Trump closely.

 

[Obama2020]

Merica

Merica? You one of those Obama ghetto voters who can't grasp proper English?

Honey BOO BOO ring a bell? lmao
Urban Dictionary: Merica

A whole new way of saying America. As America falls into the category of a nation, Merica is the whole experience of America summed up in a stereotypical way. Eating anything deep-fried, shooting shotguns, getting so fat you attempt to use the force to levitate it off the coffee table, all compressed into one word. People often say it when they see Americans doing things only Americans can do, such as: trimming a hedge with a chainsaw, eating quadruple burgers with extra lard, and driving tractors in the middle of a freeway. It is often expressed in a proud and commonly exaggerated manor. This phrase is one to be only used when the time comes to say it, like at a eating contest or at a mud pit wrestling match. As there are so many people in America that truly express what the word is all about, there is one family that pushes it over the limit. They are commonly called the "Honey Boo Boo Family".

They are known to do the same, and even more, of the equally stupid stunts that typical rednecks would do. They are reported to relive acts of true Merican spirit, like drinking 2 liter bottles of DIET cola, driving trucks into frozen creeks, getting pointless tattoos of American birds on their backs, eating processed nacho cheese in a bacon cup, tucking their Ak47s in their pillows, ordering 27 Big Macs at McDonalds with a side salad, and so much more.
Son: "Dad, did you see that man eat 503 hot dogs in 3 minutes? I wonder how many pounds he will gain!"

Dad: "Shut up son, and embrace true Merican spirit held before you!"

Son: "But Dad-"

Dad: "Merica!"

 

[Seawytch]

Are you all willing to go to war over a single individual?

How do you figure World War I started bud ? All it takes is a trigger. Archduke Franz Ferdinand ring a bell ?

This time the guy's name is Jamal Khashoggi. With his execution he lands in the middle of a moral principles vs CASH debate which will define the future of post-WWII democracies and whether America will still be viewed as a shining city upon a hill. Now wear your Trump glasses and ask yourself if you'll take the cash?

Britain, France, Ireland and Russia were part of an alliance called the Triple Entente, while Germany aligned itself with Austria-Hungary – known as the Central Powers. The assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand in Sarajevo on 28th June 1914, it triggered a chain of events that resulted in World War 1.

Ferdinand was a lot more important than this unknown

It boggles my mind that we are willing to put our economy on the line for a single individual who isn't even a citizen.

It boggles the mind that morality has a price tag for you.

Pretty sure you voted for Hildabeast so you have no room to talk about compromising morality.

Why? She didn’t brag about being able to shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose support. She didn’t brag about being able to grab people by the private’s. She didn’t pay off a porn star.

Of the two candidates, she was assuredly the most moral.

 

[BlindBoo]

We are energy independent

At the peak the last summer oil exports were 3 million barrels a day. At the same time however we were importing over 8 million barrels a day.

Weekly U.S. Imports of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels per Day)

Weekly U.S. Exports of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels per Day)

Making us a net importer of crude oil by about 5 million barrels a day.

 

[BlindBoo]

Saudi could quite easily drive our economy straight into the shitter with their control over oil.

How the hell do we avoid the inevitable disaster that may well result from any consequences we try to impose on them?
And why does every Americans financial well being have to be tied to a solitary individual who is not even an American citizen and did not die on American soil?

Are you all willing to goto war over a single individual?

It's not 1972 anymore. America exports more crude oil than Saudi Arabia does.

DERP

Oblivious to world markets too?

If OPEC boycotts oil production it will affect prices, but there will not be a shortage. Again, America is energy independent. We produce more oil than we consume.

In reality we consume nearly 20 million barrels a day and only produce around 11 million barrels a day.

Not only that but we have to import enough oil to cover what we export too.

We are not energy independent.

 

[Tehon]

America has already defined itself as ambivalent on the human rights abuses of those it partners with. Generally, the only time it becomes an issue is when you are the minority party. Democrats are useless.

When you say America you obviously mean Trump's definition of 'Merica.

After a short break, the real 'Merica is comin back online November 6th dude. With 41% approval rate, this one's on his horse ass.

I mean Obama's America as much as anyone's.