Rubio enrolls in Obamacare, takes federal subsidy

[flacaltenn]

Social Justice: Harry Reid's Insurance Premium Goes Up $4,500 a Year | The Gateway Pundit

In December 2009 Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid explained to reporters how Obamacare will reduce their premiums by $1,600 a year.

“This bill will be really good for Nevada. It saves lives, it saves money and it saves Medicare… In addition to that everyone in Nevada will be paying $1,600 less each year because of this bill.”

The video is still posted on Reid’s YouTube Channel:
Harry Reid: Obamacare will reduce insurance premiums - YouTube

Today, Harry Reid admitted his premium just went up $4,500 a year.

Harry Reid deserves the penalty -- he deserves to pay a helluva a lot more than that in damages for the pain and suffering he has caused.

But none of the people he lied to, the people who didn't support the legislation he lied to pass, none of those people deserve the cancelled policies and rate hikes he and the rest of the Democrats forced on the nation.

Wait a minute here. Let's straighten this out.. Rubio is not old enough for Medicare -- REID obviously is.. Am I supposed to believe that when ACA outlawed Congress writing Cadillac insurance for itself --- that these jerks who PAID into Medicare are now NOT eligible?

Stranger and stranger..

 

[Londoner]

Listen to Reagan's prediction for Medicare in his 1964 speech "A Time For Choosing". He predicts total socialism in the near term. Instead we saw the opposite - the increasing privatization of the American Economy and the explosion of profits in the health care market.

The Republican Party did everything possible to sabotage Medicare. They told every lie imaginable. They said it would kill old people. They also tried to sabotage the GI Bill which helped returning veterans get educated. The Republicans try to block anything that doesn't help the wealthiest Americans. Why? Because they are owned by special interest monopolies which don't want to have to lower their prices to compete for more consumers. Health Insurance companies invested trillions into Washington so they wouldn't have to compete with each other. They divided the country into a tapestry of fixed no-compete zones and they increased premiums/decreased services without fear of losing customers. Now, the government is forcing them to compete for a huge block of consumers on the exchanges. This means they will have to offer competitive rates and decent services.

Health insurance companies funded Republican elections for a reason. They paid for a government protected monopoly which is now being taken away. So yes, the GOP is telling every lie in the book to protect the special interests which own them.

 

[Amelia]

Listen to Reagan's prediction for Medicare in his 1964 speech "A Time For Choosing". He predicts total socialism in the near term. Instead we saw the opposite - the increasing privatization of the American Economy and the explosion of profits in the health care market.

The Republican Party did everything possible to sabotage Medicare. They told every lie imaginable. They said it would kill old people. They also tried to sabotage the GI Bill which helped returning veterans get educated. The Republicans try to block anything that doesn't help the wealthiest Americans. Why? Because they are owned by special interest monopolies which don't want to have to lower their prices to compete for more consumers. Health Insurance companies invested trillions into Washington so they wouldn't have to compete with each other. They divided the country into a tapestry of fixed no-compete zones and they increased premiums/decreased services without fear of losing customers. Now, the government is forcing them to compete for a huge block of consumers on the exchanges. This means they will have to offer competitive rates and decent services.

The health insurance funded Republican elections for a reason. They paid for a government protected monopoly which is now being taken away. So yes, the GOP is telling every lie in the book to protect the special interests which own them.

Thanks to the ACA, rates have gone up and competition has gone down. Now you can't even buy insurance across county lines.

 

[flacaltenn]

Listen to Reagan's prediction for Medicare in his 1964 speech "A Time For Choosing". He predicts total socialism in the near term. Instead we saw the opposite - the increasing privatization of the American Economy and the explosion of profits in the health care market.

The Republican Party did everything possible to sabotage Medicare. They told every lie imaginable. They said it would kill old people. They also tried to sabotage the GI Bill which helped returning veterans get educated. The Republicans try to block anything that doesn't help the wealthiest Americans. Why? Because they are owned by special interest monopolies which don't want to have to lower their prices to compete for more consumers. Health Insurance companies invested trillions into Washington so they wouldn't have to compete with each other. They divided the country into a tapestry of fixed no-compete zones and they increased premiums/decreased services without fear of losing customers. Now, the government is forcing them to compete for a huge block of consumers on the exchanges. This means they will have to offer competitive rates and decent services.

The health insurance funded Republican elections for a reason. They paid for a government protected monopoly which is now being taken away. So yes, the GOP is telling every lie in the book to protect the special interests which own them.

I looked at the list of topics in my active threads.. Saw Londoner there. KNEW this was gonna be about Reagan. And yet ---- I STILL had to look.. Laughed myself silly and quit reading at Reagan.. Sorry man.. You need to download a new Rev..

 

[Indeependent]

Listen to Reagan's prediction for Medicare in his 1964 speech "A Time For Choosing". He predicts total socialism in the near term. Instead we saw the opposite - the increasing privatization of the American Economy and the explosion of profits in the health care market.

The Republican Party did everything possible to sabotage Medicare. They told every lie imaginable. They said it would kill old people. They also tried to sabotage the GI Bill which helped returning veterans get educated. The Republicans try to block anything that doesn't help the wealthiest Americans. Why? Because they are owned by special interest monopolies which don't want to have to lower their prices to compete for more consumers. Health Insurance companies invested trillions into Washington so they wouldn't have to compete with each other. They divided the country into a tapestry of fixed no-compete zones and they increased premiums/decreased services without fear of losing customers. Now, the government is forcing them to compete for a huge block of consumers on the exchanges. This means they will have to offer competitive rates and decent services.

The health insurance funded Republican elections for a reason. They paid for a government protected monopoly which is now being taken away. So yes, the GOP is telling every lie in the book to protect the special interests which own them.

Thanks to the ACA, rates have gone up and competition has gone down. Now you can't even buy insurance across county lines.

My rates have been escalating annually since 2004.
Were the Health Insurance Lobbyists aware of Obama back then?

 

[Amelia]

Listen to Reagan's prediction for Medicare in his 1964 speech "A Time For Choosing". He predicts total socialism in the near term. Instead we saw the opposite - the increasing privatization of the American Economy and the explosion of profits in the health care market.

The Republican Party did everything possible to sabotage Medicare. They told every lie imaginable. They said it would kill old people. They also tried to sabotage the GI Bill which helped returning veterans get educated. The Republicans try to block anything that doesn't help the wealthiest Americans. Why? Because they are owned by special interest monopolies which don't want to have to lower their prices to compete for more consumers. Health Insurance companies invested trillions into Washington so they wouldn't have to compete with each other. They divided the country into a tapestry of fixed no-compete zones and they increased premiums/decreased services without fear of losing customers. Now, the government is forcing them to compete for a huge block of consumers on the exchanges. This means they will have to offer competitive rates and decent services.

The health insurance funded Republican elections for a reason. They paid for a government protected monopoly which is now being taken away. So yes, the GOP is telling every lie in the book to protect the special interests which own them.

Thanks to the ACA, rates have gone up and competition has gone down. Now you can't even buy insurance across county lines.

My rates have been escalating annually since 2004.
Were the Health Insurance Lobbyists aware of Obama back then?

Good bet your rates didn't see the kind of escalation rates are seeing now. Average annual increases were less than double digits before.

 

[Jroc]

Listen to Reagan's prediction for Medicare in his 1964 speech "A Time For Choosing". He predicts total socialism in the near term. Instead we saw the opposite - the increasing privatization of the American Economy and the explosion of profits in the health care market.

The Republican Party did everything possible to sabotage Medicare. They told every lie imaginable. They said it would kill old people. They also tried to sabotage the GI Bill which helped returning veterans get educated. The Republicans try to block anything that doesn't help the wealthiest Americans. Why? Because they are owned by special interest monopolies which don't want to have to lower their prices to compete for more consumers. Health Insurance companies invested trillions into Washington so they wouldn't have to compete with each other. They divided the country into a tapestry of fixed no-compete zones and they increased premiums/decreased services without fear of losing customers. Now, the government is forcing them to compete for a huge block of consumers on the exchanges. This means they will have to offer competitive rates and decent services.

Health insurance companies funded Republican elections for a reason. They paid for a government protected monopoly which is now being taken away. So yes, the GOP is telling every lie in the book to protect the special interests which own them.

You're a lunatic it's Obama who's sabotaging Medicare, and Obamacare is full of crony deals and payoffs to special interest...What world do you people live in

 

[flacaltenn]

This deal about Harry Reids "rates going up" is VWERY interesting..

Apparently there's more details to what Congress cut for themselves than most folks know.. It is illegal to offer to write ACA plans to folks on Medicare, which Harry certainly qualifies, UNLESS ....

- OPM.gov

37-8c73d9ea80fc

((Question))
I am a Member of Congress or designated congressional employee aged 65 or older and enrolled in
Medicare. According to the Affordable Care Act, as of January 2014, if I wish to enroll in
employer-sponsored health insurance with a Government contribution, I will be required to purchase
health insurance on the health care exchange. The Marketplace website states that "it is against
the law for someone who knows that I have Medicare to sell me a Marketplace plan policy." How is
this to be handled by those of us 65 and over?

((Answer))
If you have been designated by the Member for whom you work, you will be required to purchase a
health benefits plan through the DC Small Business Health Options Program (SHOP) in order to
receive a Government contribution towards your premium. SHOP coverage is not subject to the same
limitation as the individual Exchange which precludes an individual from carrying both Medicare
and an individual Exchange policy. You can continue to have Medicare coverage in addition to your
employer-sponsored DC SHOP plan. The DC SHOP plan will be your primary coverage and Medicare will be secondary.  Please note that if you elect to not enroll through the DC SHOP, you may not be eligible to carry OPM-contracted FEHB coverage into retirement with a Government contribution.

Medicare is your SECONDARY??? OBVIOUSLY ---- even CONGRESS doesn't know what was in the bill.
And if Reid is applying for an exchange policy IN ADDITION to his Medicare, it's only to receive the subsidy for the rest of his family members to offset costs.

OR --- he's not happy with being stuck with JUST Medicare.. There may be a thread here yet Sallow.
Something for folks to get all speechless about...

 

[Indeependent]

Thanks to the ACA, rates have gone up and competition has gone down. Now you can't even buy insurance across county lines.

My rates have been escalating annually since 2004.
Were the Health Insurance Lobbyists aware of Obama back then?

Good bet your rates didn't see the kind of escalation rates are seeing now. Average annual increases were less than double digits before.

You are quite incorrect regarding my rates.
To be honest, I don't know how bad or good the ACA is going to be but the supposed Free Market hasn't done me any favors.

 

[Papageorgio]

Listen to Reagan's prediction for Medicare in his 1964 speech "A Time For Choosing". He predicts total socialism in the near term. Instead we saw the opposite - the increasing privatization of the American Economy and the explosion of profits in the health care market.

The Republican Party did everything possible to sabotage Medicare. They told every lie imaginable. They said it would kill old people. They also tried to sabotage the GI Bill which helped returning veterans get educated. The Republicans try to block anything that doesn't help the wealthiest Americans. Why? Because they are owned by special interest monopolies which don't want to have to lower their prices to compete for more consumers. Health Insurance companies invested trillions into Washington so they wouldn't have to compete with each other. They divided the country into a tapestry of fixed no-compete zones and they increased premiums/decreased services without fear of losing customers. Now, the government is forcing them to compete for a huge block of consumers on the exchanges. This means they will have to offer competitive rates and decent services.

The health insurance funded Republican elections for a reason. They paid for a government protected monopoly which is now being taken away. So yes, the GOP is telling every lie in the book to protect the special interests which own them.

Thanks to the ACA, rates have gone up and competition has gone down. Now you can't even buy insurance across county lines.

My rates have been escalating annually since 2004.
Were the Health Insurance Lobbyists aware of Obama back then?

Mine have gone up steadily, about 5-8% every couple of years. This year I'm having my premium doubling and then some.

 

[flacaltenn]

My rates have been escalating annually since 2004.
Were the Health Insurance Lobbyists aware of Obama back then?

Good bet your rates didn't see the kind of escalation rates are seeing now. Average annual increases were less than double digits before.

You are quite incorrect regarding my rates.
To be honest, I don't know how bad or good the ACA is going to be but the supposed Free Market hasn't done me any favors.

ACA was not designed to fix your rate issue.. The issues that it DID FIX didn't require this much money or taking Millions of Americans this close to a healthcare disaster by upsetting their insurance plans.. The main INTENT of ACA was economic justice and redistribution to pay for the "uninsured".. About 1/2 of whom didn't have an economic reason for lacking coverage.

Would have been cheaper and more effective to address the 10% of the needy and fix a couple insurance company abuses..

 

[Indeependent]

Good bet your rates didn't see the kind of escalation rates are seeing now. Average annual increases were less than double digits before.

You are quite incorrect regarding my rates.
To be honest, I don't know how bad or good the ACA is going to be but the supposed Free Market hasn't done me any favors.

ACA was not designed to fix your rate issue.. The issues that it DID FIX didn't require this much money or taking Millions of Americans this close to a healthcare disaster by upsetting their insurance plans.. The main INTENT of ACA was economic justice and redistribution to pay for the "uninsured".. About 1/2 of whom didn't have an economic reason for lacking coverage.

Would have been cheaper and more effective to address the 10% of the needy and fix a couple insurance company abuses..

I will presume that COBRA (ReaganCare) was not unduly straining any municipal, state or federal budgets.

 

[Flopper]

One of Obamacare's biggest critics is now officially covered under the federal health care exchange: Sen. Marco Rubio.

"Senator Rubio spent time looking at all the options and decided to enroll through the D.C. exchange for coverage for him and his family," spokeswoman Brooke Sammon told the Tampa Bay Times.

Rubio, a father of four, also took the federal subsidy afforded to lawmakers and staff — a perk worth up to 75 percent of monthly premium costs — that some Republicans wanted to kill off. Even some lawmakers who have enrolled in the exchange have rejected the taxpayer-funded employer contribution.

Rubio enrolls in Obamacare, takes federal subsidy | Tampa Bay Times

Words...just...fail...me...now...

it is the law of the land, isn't it?
With the mandate to purchase insurance - otherwise you are breaking the law.

You want a state Senator to break the law?

on the other note - is this a proof of the stellar security of the healthcare.gov, that everybody and even your dog will know who applied and who did not and who got subsidy and who is paying out of pocket?
Do they also publicize the SSN numbers and bank accounts?
and why not?

He's a US Senator, not a state senator and he is required to purchase health insurance through the exchange. He is not required to take the subsidy.

 

[flacaltenn]

You are quite incorrect regarding my rates.
To be honest, I don't know how bad or good the ACA is going to be but the supposed Free Market hasn't done me any favors.

ACA was not designed to fix your rate issue.. The issues that it DID FIX didn't require this much money or taking Millions of Americans this close to a healthcare disaster by upsetting their insurance plans.. The main INTENT of ACA was economic justice and redistribution to pay for the "uninsured".. About 1/2 of whom didn't have an economic reason for lacking coverage.

Would have been cheaper and more effective to address the 10% of the needy and fix a couple insurance company abuses..

I will presume that COBRA (ReaganCare) was not unduly straining any municipal, state or federal budgets.

You're gonna have to walk me thru that one.. Cobra was no where near the burden than their misguided overgenerous retirement pension/health benefits have turned out to be.

 

[Indeependent]

ACA was not designed to fix your rate issue.. The issues that it DID FIX didn't require this much money or taking Millions of Americans this close to a healthcare disaster by upsetting their insurance plans.. The main INTENT of ACA was economic justice and redistribution to pay for the "uninsured".. About 1/2 of whom didn't have an economic reason for lacking coverage.

Would have been cheaper and more effective to address the 10% of the needy and fix a couple insurance company abuses..

I will presume that COBRA (ReaganCare) was not unduly straining any municipal, state or federal budgets.

You're gonna have to walk me thru that one.. Cobra was no where near the burden than their misguided overgenerous retirement pension/health benefits have turned out to be.

I was a Rush-Bot from 9/11 till 2008, before the Internet was BIG.
Rush used to INSIST that COBRA was an instrument of the Democrat Party (remember, Rush NEVER calls it the Democratic Party) that was driving HUNDREDS of hospitals across our Southern Border into bankruptcy.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Thanks to the ACA, rates have gone up and competition has gone down. Now you can't even buy insurance across county lines.

My rates have been escalating annually since 2004.
Were the Health Insurance Lobbyists aware of Obama back then?

Mine have gone up steadily, about 5-8% every couple of years. This year I'm having my premium doubling and then some.

That is awful! What is the name of the plan that you have?

 

[Politico]

All Congressmen were required to drop FEHB and take an exchange policy. It is in ACA

Shhhhhh....

 

[jon_berzerk]

One of Obamacare's biggest critics is now officially covered under the federal health care exchange: Sen. Marco Rubio.

"Senator Rubio spent time looking at all the options and decided to enroll through the D.C. exchange for coverage for him and his family," spokeswoman Brooke Sammon told the Tampa Bay Times.

Rubio, a father of four, also took the federal subsidy afforded to lawmakers and staff — a perk worth up to 75 percent of monthly premium costs — that some Republicans wanted to kill off. Even some lawmakers who have enrolled in the exchange have rejected the taxpayer-funded employer contribution.

Rubio enrolls in Obamacare, takes federal subsidy | Tampa Bay Times

Words...just...fail...me...now...

words fail you because he followed the law

 

[Two Thumbs]

You are missing the point Ms. Becki.

While I don't expect these folks to go "dead ender" on this, someone could at least have the grace to come out and say, "Look, I was against this, but now? I am going to give it a try. I may have been wrong and I am going to approach it with an open mind."

Speaking out against ObamaCare THEN going behind everyone's back and actually enrolling is pretty audacious, don't you think?

I mean these folks have been having "don't enroll" parties at colleges.

They've been telling OTHER people NOT to enroll.

Creepy Uncle Sam - Anti-Obamacare Ad - The Exam - Female Version - YouTube

which is totally different from dems and their aides getting waivers to keep from going on it while forcing people to join by taking their hci away.


It's far more ruthless and evil to harm people like that.

They are in the program with the same rules as you and me if we have to go into the program.

Please stop your propaganda. No one sane believes it.

What part of dems getting waivers to avoid joining aca is propaganda?

it's an absolute fact

 

[Two Thumbs]

You are missing the point Ms. Becki.

While I don't expect these folks to go "dead ender" on this, someone could at least have the grace to come out and say, "Look, I was against this, but now? I am going to give it a try. I may have been wrong and I am going to approach it with an open mind."

Speaking out against ObamaCare THEN going behind everyone's back and actually enrolling is pretty audacious, don't you think?

I mean these folks have been having "don't enroll" parties at colleges.

They've been telling OTHER people NOT to enroll.

Creepy Uncle Sam - Anti-Obamacare Ad - The Exam - Female Version - YouTube

which is totally different from dems and their aides getting waivers to keep from going on it while forcing people to join by taking their hci away.


It's far more ruthless and evil to harm people like that.

thumbs, you have been screaming about the Democrats in Congress getting waivers and NOT having to sign up for ACA. Yet you have not provided a single shred of evidence proving your claim. Please give us a link which proves your argument or stop posting opinions.

reid aides get waivers - Search Yahoo Search Results

take your pick and then try and recall that this is a well known fact and not my opinion.

would you like a link to all the companies and unions that got waivers as well or do you recall those well know facts?