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Why would I love that sound which happens to women who want their babies to live but something goes wrong and the mother’s life needs to saved. Or the fetus fails to develop it’s own brain or other vital organs and is not capable of living many hours after separation from it’s mother,I bet you love the sound of the forceps cracking open the baby’s skulls.
Do you belong to an organized religion?Pro Life people: What do you think about Trump's comments RE Roe v Wade?
Well, we have to keep in mind that he has to appeal to more than just the R base.
Trump blames pro-life Republicans for midterm loss
Former President Donald Trump claimed it "wasn't my fault" that Republicans performed poorly in the 2022 midterm elections, blaming pro-life voters instead.www.foxnews.com
That said, I myself am against abortion in ANY situation, even the ones Trump mentions --that even some liberals mention: rape, incest or the life of the mother
Women very very rarely die from childbirth and in any case, abortion is a brutal, dangerous procedure itself, esp the further along the mother is. Pro life laws protect BOTH mother and child.
Rape? Please... That child did not commit a crime. Why execute the child for the sins/crimes of another?
But most important is this:
Trump won and won again---even though America knew he was pro life. And I am sure I could say that about a lot of other Rs in govt office.
I think it is rather simplistic and unrealistic to blame the Rs position on abortion for election losses. That does not ring true to some of us.
We need more good people to ensure that evil is stymied but the numbers aren't in Goods favor.
Trump is nothing but a reaction to poor policies.
/---/ Of course, you couldn't prove any of that bullshyt. So, it's no more than your TDS opinion - completely useless.shckdcndn.23.09.22
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shckdcndn.23.08.16
#18
Three of mankind’s greatest evils in recent years are directly related to Trump and his followers’ irrational and unAmerican devotion to him.
Number one: the lies being spread that the 2020 election was stolen and the attempt to subvert democracy that culminated in violence on January 6 much to Putin’s pleasure.
Number two: Vladimir Putin’s launch of civilian deaths, maiming and destruction on the sovereign soil of Ukraine because he thought he could seize the country in a couple of weeks.
Number three: the Overturning of women’s freedom of conscience with the Dobbs decision.
All three are interrelated to one minority sized segment of practiced Christianity.
The denial of that and putting the blame on “bad policy” is destructive to our democracy as we know it. You need to clean your hands of it.
nf.23.09.22
If she didn't want the little heart growing in her, she should have kept her legs together
Nearly 700 days later, most Republicans still believe Trump’s big lie
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ost-republicans-still-believe-trumps-big-lie/
What can be done? Persist. Persist in the hope that even if they can not bring themselves to admit it on this forum they will come to know the facts. Persist in the hope we can someday have constructive conversations over issues with which we disagree without having to argue about the color of the sky. Persist in the hope we can eventually move past the vitriol and work, TOGETHER, to address the nation's very consequential problems. IMO, Repubs have lost their way. We must remain hopeful they will find it again or all is lost.
Fetuses aren't people
because they lack the ability to survive on their own.
Let a newborn try to survive on it's own and see what happens,
link pleaseSo Biden is a true Catholic who supports killing babies up to birth.
Ok, that’s great. They are all Catholics, and they all believe in the sanctity of life, that doesn’t mean they make decisions based on faith. People CAN separate their personal beliefs from their role in government.thssm.23.09.16
#11,048
The decision was decided by six Catholics.
The last three were groomed by the Federalist Society to get on the Supreme Court.
The Federalist Society does not groom its USSC hopefuls to be wishy-washy on when they believe the sanctity of life begins.
They all have a biblical worldview that the sanctity of life begins at conception.
Mississippi, through Dobbs, argued that the Constitution does not provide a right to abortion (and as such, states can freely ban abortions if it is rationally related to legitimate government interests).Mississippi leaned on the text of the Tenth Amendment, that denies states powers like making treaties, but does not directly deny the power to restrict abortion.Additionally, Mississippi argued that “liberty” as written in the Fourteenth Amendment only implicates fundamental rights that are “deeply rooted in U.S history and tradition.” Mississippi further argued that abortion is not a fundamental right here since many states at the time of the Fourteenth Amendment’s ratification had bans on abortions.
Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization (2022)
Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization is the 2022 Supreme Court case that reversed Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pennsylvania v.www.law.cornell.edu
The Dobbs decision was made to protect “victims” in Mississippi who were developed beyond fifteen weeks from conception, but not before fifteen weeks. They are victims to this day that do not have standing to take a case to the Supreme Court. They are not persons.
These victims do have standing with a higher court than the USSC and the US Constitution that neglects to ever mention them as being persons.
The Catholics who pushed Mississippi to take the case that the Constitution does not provide a right to abortion tells us it is an interpretation of language from the Word of God hisself.
• In God’s eyes, all human life is sacred. God has a plan for every person – every mother, and every pre-born child.
The Judeo-Christian Biblical God has no place in a decision made by the USSC. I do not believe God has a plan for a fifteen week old fetus. That’s bullshit. 25 percent at least of every conception dies on its own before 20 weeks before it has a brain. Hardly anything in his white image or capable of committing any kind of sin.
Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization:
Top-Line Messaging
• In God’s eyes, all human life is sacred. God has a plan for every person – every mother, and every pre-born child.• Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization gives the Supreme Court an opportunity to undo the grave injustice of 1973, when Roe v. Wade decided that a whole class of human beings, the preborn, are outside the protection of the law. Since that decision, more than 60 million innocent lives have been taken. If Roe is overturned, states will again be able to protect the lives of preborn children, and in doing so, also protect millions of women from the tragic consequences of abortion.
Dobbs was a farce is a farce and will be remembered as one of the greatest farces of all time.
ppgrg.23.09.16
#11,047
If a bipartisan interpretation could be wrong in 1973 with a barely non-existing religious right devoted to saving the life of the baby fetus political propaganda object, then it stands to reason that the farcical interpretation by a holy coalition of hyper-partison six Catholics by the luck of a timely Jewish death can be wrong too.
nf.23.09.16 #11,051
I have never suggested that at all.if you are suggesting they decided dobbs based on their faith,
www.theatlantic.com
www.newsweek.com
A tonsil isn't an organism,
Do you vote for your choice of president every four years? And do you believe each state counts the votes and determines which party’s nominee won the state? Do you know that states can certify their vote and lock it in to never change by around mid-December following the November Election Date? Do you know who Jenna Ellis is?But largely a pillow fight compared to the BLM riots
Then why do you refer to the Officer Chauvin riots during the summer of 2020 as the BLM riots? It was Chauvin’s act of murder that sparked riots that were not associated with the peaceful protests against the kind of police brutality that a ten minute video of murder in broad daylight by four men wearing a uniform with a badge?we conservatives want people to view all people by who they are, not their skin color
Then why do you refer to the Officer Chauvin riots during the summer of 2020 as the BLM riots? It was Chauvin’s act of murder that sparked riots that were not associated with the peaceful protests against the kind of police brutality that a ten minute video of murder in broad daylight by four men wearing a uniform with a badge?we conservatives want people to view all people by who they are, not their skin color
Woke ideology usually refers to America as uniquely evil, racist, patriarchal, oppressive, colonialist, on stolen land, etc… and uses supposed victim classes to attack political opponents, such as trans ideology, 3rd wave feminism, and BLM/CRT. It says oppression is just as bad as it’s ever been (or even worse), it demonizes history with a pseudo history, and advocates deconstructionism of the America experiment, often using anti-capitalist principles.
Woke ideology attacks America only, brands its Faults as the worst evil, and ignores far worse human atrocities in history and today.. such as the CCP, Iran, etc. It exalts itself in virtue by attacking and hating those who disagree with their ideology, and is silent on violence as long as it’s in the name of their cause, all the while declaring speech as “violence” by their political opponents.
It views how they feel as what is most important, and if a differing opinion upsets them, they are justified in hatred and active attacks on opponent’s livelihoods, reputations, and will attempt to use government power to censor wrongthink. It is widespread narcissism on steroids.
Look at how you are playing this, otherwise you show just how much of a leftist you truly are when grabbing at straws like you do. You look for a crack, and then quickly jump on it trying to exploit it. Trump talking about his status as a billionaire when it came to women wanting him to grab them by their crotches was a true statement, but you know as well as anyone should know, that he wasn't talking about every type of woman, but it was that he was talking about the specific gold digger's who were in hope of him grabbing them in exchange for money and security.hplsjstqt.23.09.19
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Why would Trump say something to piss off the only good looking anti-abort woman in America; Ms Rose? He might get a chance to grab her by the pussy one day but now that opportunity’s gone for good.
Responding to Trump’s remarks, pro-life leader Lila Rose of LiveAction was resolute. She said in no uncertain terms that she thinks Trump should not be the Republican presidential nominee.“Trump should not be the GOP nominee,” Rose said on X, formerly known as Twitter.
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“Pathetic and unacceptable. Trump is actively attacking the very pro-life laws made possible by Roe’s overturning. Heartbeat Laws have saved thousands of babies,” Rose added. “But Trump wants to compromise on babies’ lives so pro-abort Dems ‘like him.’”
Pro-Life Leader Lila Rose: “Trump Should Not be the GOP Nominee” - LifeNews.com
The reactions to comments from former President Donald Trump condemning the Florida heartbeat law have been quite intense As LifeNews reported, in a weekend interview, Donald Trump called a heartbeat law protecting babies from abortion a “terrible mistake,” earning scorn from pro-life advocates...www.lifenews.com
Abby Johnson, the pro-life advocate who formerly ran a Planned Parenthood abortion center, was equally condemning.
“The Republican nominee for President should, at minimum, be able to say that men can’t be women and that it’s wrong to kill children in the womb. We’re not asking him to be a rocket scientist. We’re asking him to be a conservative,” she added.
And CatholicVote President Brian Burch told LifeNews he was concerned with Trump’s remarks.
“President Trump’s comments over the weekend have sparked concerns among Catholics over whether he is committed to leading on this issue in the way he did during his first term,” Burch said. “Pro-life Catholic voters helped deliver him the White House in 2016, and a record number of votes in 2020. He cannot expect to win again without these same voters. Any Republican presidential hopeful must draw a clear contrast to the extreme, taxpayer funded, unlimited abortion agenda of Joe Biden.”
Trump and his campaign will have work to do to repair damage with pro-life voters. The outrage over his remarks on social media is palpable and Trump’s comments will cost him primary voters but, if he becomes the nominee, dampen the enthusiasm for his campaign in pro-life circles.
I was received into the Church two and a half years ago. Best day of my life, although every day after that has been pretty good, too.How Lila Rose Became Pro-Life … and Catholic
The founder of Live Action recalls early influences from Protestant parents who read the Church Fathers.www.ncregister.com
I was raised as a Protestant, and my parents were very faithful people; and they taught us to read the Bible and love and respect life. I learned about Jesus Christ as a Protestant.
nf.23.09.19
Because the riots were a pumped up exploitation of the case that was being used for other purposes. You knew this, but you love to play dumb. Rahm Emmanuel said it best "never let a good crisis to to waste", and that remains the agenda of the Democrat's for a myriad of reason's..wgglpggl.23.09.11
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Then why do you refer to the Officer Chauvin riots during the summer of 2020 as the BLM riots? It was Chauvin’s act of murder that sparked riots that were not associated with the peaceful protests against the kind of police brutality that a ten minute video of murder in broad daylight by four men wearing a uniform with a badge?
nf.23.09.23
That's funny, otherwise when it comes to everything else Democrat's want to encroach upon, then somehow y'all justify it, but this issue is somehow different because it's something you are using or trying to use for political assassination purposes. Give it up already, because baby killing has become unpopular even for more and more Democrat's.ppgrg.22.10.24 #397 to nf.22.10.24 #397 “I have stated it many times and I am against abortion, it is a wrong decision and women should be told the mental and physical aspects so they can make an informed decision, but I can’t decide what other people do with their lives, that is between them and their god.
cllblck.23.08.20
#11,120
Private vs public solicitation is the distinction.
Government can ban or regulate anything that is detrimental to public safety and public health. Both sex and drug use can be an addiction. There are more than enough share of the public who are vulnerable to addiction for it to be profitable for any criminal enterprise that wants to take advantage of addiction weaknesses among humans. These criminal enterprise must operate in the public to make money which is subject to government regulation.
Abortion is private between a woman and here doctor.
Wonen go to the doctors. The doctors do not come to them.
Have you ever had a doctor come up to you on a street corner trying to sell you an abortion ?
nf.23.09.20 #11,124
Why is privacy and autonomy over their own body “radical” to have their rights protected by the Ohio Constitution after these rights were radically taken away by the USSC where conservatives have been freely frolicking in billionaire’s castles and playgrounds for decades gone by,You can tell the pro-abortionists are foaming to try to pass radical legislation in Ohio.
Baby killing is ever more popular now that Trump has begun to support it in the hope that killing babies might keep him from going into prison. See post #1Give it up already, because baby killing has become unpopular even for more and more Democrat's.
All that praise gor Messianic Saint Trump from Saint Protectionist but no mention of his greatest presidential achievementNO, you DON'T know that Trump is a convicted rapist (which BTW the word "convicted" has become meaningless in today's "justice" system circus quagmire.)
If Trump denied housing to blacks, it was over half a century ago. Please dont post idiocy.
If you have some proof of Trump stealing money from charites, post it. Otherwise keep quiet.
Cheating on wives is a personal family matter, not one of political concern. If Trump cheated on Melania, that is Trump's business, Melania's business, and none of yours.
Show proof of admission of sexual abuse by Trump. You post things wildly, without any substantiation.
Show proof of any instances of fraud by Trump.
Trump did NOT attempt to steal an election. He attempted to CORRECT an election, that was stolen from him. Don't talk stupid.
There was no coup attempt. All you're doing is repeating the standard lying, left media catchwords.
Multiple indictments all coming from Joe Biden, attempting to stop Trump from running against him, and you're dumb enough to be DUPED by it.
Trump's intelligence has been enough to be able to amass a multibillion fortune, own real estate all over the world, and fly around in a multimillion $$$$$$ private jet. And how is your private jet doing these days ?
I'd say Trump's language skills are good enough to stand in front of crowds of tens of thousands of supporters, and continue to do these large rallies for years. And your latest rally had ? 6 people (in a laundromat) ?
The large increase on debt came from the Covid pandemic, created and maintained by Democrats (Biden, Obama, NIH, Fauci, Pelosi).
Less employed people than when started is also ramification of the pandemic (again a Democrat thing). You're doing a marvelous job of repeating left-media, BS, propaganda jibberish.
Boy is your brain ever distorted, Trump SAVED hundreds of thousands of lives during the DEMOCRAT pandemic.
- Through the COVID pandemic, our Covid mortality rate was REDUCED from over 17,000/week in April 2020, to about 2000/week in June 2020. and remained very low throughout the year, as a result of the many smart things that the president did..
- 90% REDUCTION. > HUGE SUCCESS.
- Massive production of Ventilators - These were left in short supply after the Obama/Biden admin (we now have so many we're exporting them),
- the Navy hospital ships sent to New York & LA.
- the stimulus checks,
- The Task Force advice (ex. social distancing),
- opposition/criticism of New York's dumb nursing home policies,
- federal aid to hospitals, rapidly expanding production & distribution of medical supplies
- travel bans (which Democrats called Trump a "racist' for)
- Trump's advocacy of Hydroxychloriquin (now proven to be effective, despite criticism from Democrats), and Regeneron.
- fast, continual development of a vaccine, and rapid success of Operation Warp Speed.
- Matt Gaetz, Criti Noem, Laueren Boebert, Jim Jordan, Marjorie Taylor Greene - all top notch, slandered, libeled, patriotic members of Congress, hard at work stopping Democrat lunatics and sex perverts from tearing our county apart, and driving it into a sewer.
