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NFBW: You use your religious belief snd doctrine in this discussion about the political religious anti/science right’s attacks on the reproductive rights of woman more than anyone else.Attack using religion, A
Is it untrue or true that white Republican Christians claim abortion kills a person? What fraud are you referring to?Back to your “religion” fraud.
NFBW: Our legal system is based on long centuries based established jurisprudence with emphasis on consistency and precedence. On abortion It’s the opposite of changing with the times and modern science which is a figment of your imagination anyway. There is no science that settles when legal personhood begins.The common law grew with the times.
I didnt ask if it is relevant. I asked if it’s true if white Republican Christians claim abortion kills a person?As always, your question is irrelevant.
Is it that hierarchy of values that you made up out of nothing that exists in reality?have explained my “authority.” So, your premise is false.
Once a baby is named, and a pregnancy is excepted by the mother upon finding out she is with child, then that baby is by the mother "assigned" personhood wherefore the mother willingly allows herself to protect, nourish, and have her child fully develope within her womb.NFBW: What is “progression of the abortion system and it’s processes in which were changing big time”
A person (pl: people) is a being that has certain capacities or attributes such as reason, morality, consciousness or self-consciousness, and being a part of a culturally established form of social relations such as kinship, ownership of property, or legal responsibility.[1][2][3][4] The defining features of personhood and, consequently, what makes a person count as a person, differ widely among cultures and contexts.[5][6]
In addition to the question of personhood, of what makes a being count as a person to begin with, there are further questions about personal identity and self: both about what makes any particular person that particular person instead of another, and about what makes a person at one time the same person as they were or will be at another time despite any intervening changes.
The plural form "people" is often used to refer to an entire nation or ethnic group (as in "a people"), and this was the original meaning of the word; it subsequently acquired its use as a plural form of person. The plural form "persons" is often used in philosophical and legal writing.
NFBW: a living human organism cannot be a “person” in the legal sense conscious of self if it dies not have a brain.
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No science that settles where legal personhood begins... Correct, so your idea of a timeline is as ridiculous as it can be.NFBW: Our legal system is based on long centuries based established jurisprudence with emphasis on consistency and precedence. On abortion It’s the opposite of changing with the times and modern science which is a figment of your imagination anyway. There is no science that settles when legal personhood begins.
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ZzzNFBW: Our legal system is based on long centuries based established jurisprudence with emphasis on consistency and precedence. On abortion It’s the opposite of changing with the times and modern science which is a figment of your imagination anyway. There is no science that settles when legal personhood begins.
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NFBW: This thread you started exists only because of religion, white grievance and Christian grievance united into the Republican Party. Nothing more.You keep trying to make this about religion. It isn’t.
Not having any discussion with you about religion. That’s apparently your bag.NFBW: This thread you started exists only because of religion, white grievance and Christian grievance united into the Republican Party. Nothing more.
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SCIENTISTS PROVE SATAN’S ARMY HAS INVADED AMERICA - so white Christian male LAWMAKERS can force birth on all women and girls in Jesus’ states to defeat Satan and his army - - - Just ask Lt Colonel beagle9 in ding ‘s unemotional HOLY unChristianChristian scientific TRUTH CRUSADE for government control of every female reproductive organ in Jesus’ Christian Nation.
ding200124-#518 “America is still a Christian nation even if all of its people don’t behave in a Christian manner.
They just need a little more suffering before returning to successful ways. Like I said before atheism and secular humanism has only infected America, it hasn’t taken over.
ding220724-#3,855 I don't consider souls or original sin or anything else. Those are religious beliefs and have nothing to do with establishing rights.”
NFBW2207241200-#3,856 “So what gives you the right @ding to unilaterally insist that your “belief” must be the only one accepted and pushed by elected lawmakers
JoeB131 strollingbones
beagle9220529-#2,385 ... If that sign "In God we trust" hanging there on that wall were to be put into the classroom's along with Christ teaching's and our prayers again, then we wouldn't be where we are today in America
beagle9220529-#2,389 “American use to stand for something, and that included standing up for God, and believing in Christ for the majority, but then came the author of confusion with his minion's or disciple's to sit down on it all, and I must say that if allowed he can truly cause us pain like we've done never imagined before. Your denial is causing great anarchy and chaos if you attempt to ignore the truth, and choose yourself to be a disciple of the evil one's army.
ding220724-#3,857 “Because it's just science. It's not emotion.”
NFBW220725-#3,864 Do you believe it is random chance and mere coincidence ding that the lawmakers who get politically elected in every state where abortion is being banned, as you wish, would hold a majority of the beagle9 religious belief that Americans need to believe that Jesus Christ is their Lord and Savior and vote Republicans or else Satan and liberals will take it all away.
NFBW220725-#3,864 Do you really believe ding that religious political hacks, mostly white Christian males, are the one’s who should be imposing their religious perspective on women and young girls who get pregnant and find out white Christian men are deciding what they can and cannot do with their body and health?
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Of course not. You are having a monologue with yourself based on the religious right anti freedom campaign propaganda against pregnant women in which you claim to be fighting for unborn life. Does imaginary fighting for life give meaning to your life?Not having any discussion with you about religion.
Nope. I’ve patiently tried to get a hint of honesty out of you, but alas, you’re just not a straight speaker.Of course not. You are having a monologue with yourself based on the religious right anti freedom campaign propaganda against pregnant women in which you claim to be fighting for unborn life. Does imaginary fighting for life give meaning to your life?
it’s a con.
NFBW: Do you have the intellectual capability to have a discussion about abortion as a matter of conscience?Not having any discussion with you about religion
your views and opinions (and that's all they are) are in the minority. That's why you think you have to scream all the time.NFBW: Slavery is not a private matter.
Redfish230325-#337 ¥ Redfish ¥ “so prior to 24 weeks it is not a human being? not a creation of God? has zero rights? is something that can just be discarded like an empty coke can?
NFBW: why are there so many white Republican Christians in a secular groupthink of all beliefs and ideologies insisting on forcing your conscience on every member of society over the survival of a never-had a functional-brain fetuses?
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those are your opinions, not biological facts. WTF can't you understand that?BigBendTx220518-#480 ¥ Big Bend Texas ¥ “Religion is irrelevant, life is life”
NFBW220518-#551 to: -52 “Two things that are different cannot be the same {in} science. A human Zygot is not a living breathing human like its mother
BBT220518-#561 to: -10 ¥ Big Bend Texas ¥ “A newborn isn't as fully developed as the mother either.”
NFBW: A newborn is alive because he or she has become an independent person with his or her very own unique DNA identifiable brain.
NFBW: The expression “life is life” is not a scientific argument to justify banning legal abirtion during the first 22 weeks of pregnancy, it is a plea from a Catholic Church perspective that all human life is sacred because it is created at conception to have a personal relationship with God.
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