Roe v. Wade getting overturned!!

[whutTHEYsay]

beagle9230325-#7,927 to: -6 No one is forcing its views or ideologies on the good citizen's but you leftist liberals.

beagle9230326-#7,937 to: -7 ¥ beagle9 ¥ Maybe the Doctor was a leftist that got in on setting the state up by not rendering the proper treatment for this alleged incompetent cervix, and all because he knew what the results would be by not rendering the care she needed ??

NFBW: The “incompetent cervix” diagnosis is not a crime or something that can be faked.

Amanda’s fetus was healthy throughout this complication and in Texas every fetus with a heartbeat has the protection of state interest that “forced” Amanda’s doctor to keep the fetus alive until Amanda actually became on the verge of death before her life could be saved by killing a perfectly healthy fetus.

It’s what happens when white Republican Trump Christians vote for lawmakers who pass laws since Dobbs that force doctors to make legal decisions instead of medical decisions when the fetus does not have a brain but is alive and healthy. That forces harm, mental and financial cruelty on women whether they want to be pregnant or not.

You beagle9 are a white Christian proponent of harming pregnant women through state force. You are not civilized at all or without evil in your heart.

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[beagle9]

NFBW: Amanda and four other harmed women and their doctors are suing the white-Christian-run state of Texas for causing harm to them in the name of protecting a fetus with a heartbeat beginning at about six weeks from conception.

https://www.fox4news.com › news › jill-biden-invites-austin couple to State of the Union to ...​

Feb 7, 2023 · Amanda Zurawski and her husband, Josh, will join Biden in her viewing box for the president’s annual speech in order to highlight the administration’s desire to address abortion access, according to the White House.​

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Texas’ near-total abortion ban allows the procedure only to save the life of the pregnant patient. But since the law went into effect this summer, doctors have reported delaying care due to confusion over the exceptions and fear of prosecution.​

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NFBW: I wonder what Big Bend Texas thinks of this lawsuit .​

Women impacted by abortion laws file case against Texas By Amanda Ruiz and FOX 7 Austin Digital Team Published March 7, 2023 Abortion Laws FOX 7 Austin​

"My doctor could not intervene as long as [the baby’s] heart was beating or until I was sick enough for the ethics board at the hospital to consider my life at risk and commit the standard healthcare I needed at that point to get an abortion," said Zurawski.​

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It is a similar ultimatum all five women can recall being given by their doctor.​

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"I'll never forget when one specialist tore off his gloves and threw them at the trash. ‘I can't help you anymore, you need to leave the state'" said Lauren Miller, a plaintiff in the lawsuit.​

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The women have now teamed up with two Texas doctors and the Center for Reproductive Rights to sue the state of Texas. ​

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NFBW: and now we have MikeOx deciding who is and who isn’t a Christian


NFBW: But MikeOx is ok with murdering babies if MikeOx dies not have to pay for it.

Does that mean Jesus is ok with murdering babies if Caesar doesn’t pay for it.

MikeOx230325-#7,925 • Mikeoxenormous • “You know when the government pays whores to get an abortion with US tax dollars, then i have every fucking right to say no. If they want to spend their own dollars killing their kids, so be it, the more the less Marxist/Democrat voters are alive.

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Yeah good luck with them attacking the (anytime they want an abortion issue), with their personal healthcare issue's that should be between their doctor's and their hospital's when it comes to the health of the mom during her pregnancy.

The lawsuits will fail if their lawyer's are attacking the state on behalf of the leftist liberals trying to use anything possible to try and roll back a state law that doesn't allow abortions to be used as a means of birth control or worse to allow abortions to be used on demand.

 

[beagle9]

beagle9230325-#7,927 to: -6 No one is forcing its views or ideologies on the good citizen's but you leftist liberals.

beagle9230326-#7,937 to: -7 ¥ beagle9 ¥ Maybe the Doctor was a leftist that got in on setting the state up by not rendering the proper treatment for this alleged incompetent cervix, and all because he knew what the results would be by not rendering the care she needed ??

NFBW: The “incompetent cervix” diagnosis is not a crime or something that can be faked.

Amanda’s fetus was healthy throughout this complication and in Texas every fetus with a heartbeat has the protection of state interest that “forced” Amanda’s doctor to keep the fetus alive until Amanda actually became on the verge of death before her life could be saved by killing a perfectly healthy fetus.

It’s what happens when white Republican Trump Christians vote for lawmakers who pass laws since Dobbs that force doctors to make legal decisions instead of medical decisions when the fetus does not have a brain but is alive and healthy. That forces harm, mental and financial cruelty on women whether they want to be pregnant or not.

You beagle9 are a white Christian proponent of harming pregnant women through state force. You are not civilized at all ir without evil in your heart.

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Nice try Lefty, but none of your bull crap flies, so get a new gig because this one is washed up now.

 

[beagle9]

I’m against abortion. So all reasonable opinions against it make sense to me.

Where we differ is I believe the decision to terminate a pregnancy prior to 24 weeks is a private matter not open to the state to interfere. You want state interference in a private health and financial matter but you can’t tell need what your interest in a private matter is all about. You want the state to interfere in the private affairs of a woman when she gets pregnant. So if you can explain your cruel spiteful obsession with the uteruses of complete strangers.

Thanks in advance for your explanation.

Everyone's interest in a nation is to not allow the usage of it's system's or private practices to somehow be exploited or used in tragic unethical nefarious way's. That's what put the issue up on everyone's radar, and the unethical practices began to be investigated. Once the findings were in, and the verdict's are rendered, then of course the one's who are in the minority that were (using the system or practices in a very detrimental way), are going to be the one's screaming that it's unfair, and we hate you, and you're the evil one's, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.... Think about it, citizen's once tried to justify slavery, then drug's, then outsourcing job's, medicine's, and etc, so it just goes on and on and on.

We are torn as human beings until the end.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Redfish230225-#328 to: -2 ¥ Redfish ¥ you want abortion on demand with no limits, why not just say that?

NFBW: I want limits same as Roe v Wade had - legal abortion for women who choose it during the first 24 weeks of their pregnancy. I personally oppose abortion but it’s not my call what other people do with their body and life that they create.

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[whutTHEYsay]

Everyone's interest in a nation is to not allow the usage of it's system's or private practices to somehow be exploited or used in tragic unethical nefarious way's.

Why is your opinion that legal abortion is unethical prior to the 28th week of pregnancy the only opinion that matters?

It is your brain and conscience that leads to that conclusion. We have freedom of conscience in this country or are you not aware of that right?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Think about it, citizen's once tried to justify slavery,

NFBW: Slavery is not a private matter.

Redfish230325-#337 ¥ Redfish ¥ “so prior to 24 weeks it is not a human being? not a creation of God? has zero rights? is something that can just be discarded like an empty coke can?

NFBW: why are there so many white Republican Christians in a secular groupthink of all beliefs and ideologies insisting on forcing your conscience on every member of society over the survival of a never-had a functional-brain fetuses?

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[Mikeoxenormous]

MikeOx230326-#7,939 ¥ Mikeoxenormous ¥ Hey dickhead, I am all about personal responsibility, if you spread your legs for some uneducated prick, and get pregnant, that isnt my fault, so why the fuck should i have to pay to have it killed? You fuck up, you pay for your stupid shit.

NFBW: Because we are discussing the Constitution, Rule of Law, and Abortion Rights you must be opposed to the Texas Heartbeat abortion ban because it is harmful to women like Amanda Zurawski who can afford to pay for an abortion no matter the reason for her decisions or her doctor’s diagnosis.

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There is nothing in the Constitution that says women can murder their babies.

 

[beagle9]

Redfish230225-#328 to: -2 ¥ Redfish ¥ you want abortion on demand with no limits, why not just say that?

NFBW: I want limits same as Roe v Wade had - legal abortion for women who choose it during the first 24 weeks of their pregnancy. I personally oppose abortion but it’s not my call what other people do with their body and life that they create.

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You are ignoring the progression of the abortion system and it's processes in which were changing big time. Like I said, the leftist put it on the radar, and ultimately caused it's demise, and rightfully so.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

BigBendTx220518-#480 ¥ Big Bend Texas ¥ “Religion is irrelevant, life is life”

BackAgain230321-#7,847 to: -1 ¥ BackAgain ¥ That’s fine. But life remains life regardless of the distinction you draw.

BackAgain230321-#7,841 “Life is life. The right to life ought to encompass the preborn.”

You are ignoring the progression of the abortion system and it's processes in which were changing big time.

NFBW: I’m not ignoring “progression of the abortion system and it’s processes in which were changing big time” . I am trying to figure out what the hell you are talking about. Please explain what you mean by that.

And are the world’s great religions a significant part of human life?
Why does anti-choice team Trump
have a lot of players who insist overturning Roe v Wade had nothing to do with white Christian religion?

What part of we don't write laws based on religion in America don't you understand.

NFBW: But ding says.

ding200227-#617 ¥ ding ¥ { It is a } fact that we were founded as a Christian nation based upon Christian values and principles. Not religious dogma per se but the successful behaviors which Western Civilization was built upon.

NFBW: When ding tells the white Christian propaganda lie that America was founded as a Christian Nation he can’t say in the next breath that a Christian Nation is not controlled by dominant white Christian people being in the advantage of that majority religion and its religious culture but they do not write laws based on that dominant religion whenever they can do so unchallenged. ding says the most absurd things of anyone here.

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[whutTHEYsay]

MikeOx230326-#7,939 ¥ Mikeoxenormous ¥ “Hey dickhead, I am all about personal responsibility, if you spread your legs for some uneducated prick, and get pregnant, that isnt my fault, so why the fuck should i have to pay to have it killed? You fuck up, you pay for your stupid shit.”

NFBW240326-#7,940 to: -1 “Because we are discussing the Constitution, Rule of Law, and Abortion Rights you must be opposed to the Texas Heartbeat abortion ban because it is harmful to women like Amanda Zurawski who can afford to pay for an abortion no matter the reason for her decisions or her doctor’s diagnosis.”

MikeOx230326-#7,948 to: -8 ¥ Mikeoxenormous ¥ “There is nothing in the Constitution that says women can murder their babies.”

NFBW: Babies born into most human societies by virtue of taking a first breath and of having their own brain *1 are persons with basic right to life. To murder a baby that has taken a first breath is murder of course and the person who commits such a crime should be prosecuted and punished accordingly as subjected to Common Law.

Common Law in practice in colonial America when the Constitution was created did not hold a woman punishable for a crime if she terminated a pregnancy prior to quickening of her own fetus. In other words a quick fetus was one who showed presence of life by detectable movements and was therefore considered legally alive somewhere between 16 and 20 weeks. The latter is a little shy of the number of weeks it takes a fetus to produce its own neuron loaded brain. *1

NFBW230224-#325 “A neurological organ as complex as a human brain takes 21 weeks to grow in brain matter and acquire all the neurons required to establish consciousness and thought. Prior to that time it is not a brain in any functional way beyond regulating some motor skills and movement of limbo

*1 From the time the neural tube closes, around week 7, the brain will grow at a rate of 250,000 neurons per minute for the next 21 weeks.​

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Fetal Brain Development Stages: When Does a Fetus Develop a Brain? < 230324^ae​

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[whutTHEYsay]

You are ignoring the progression of the abortion system

NFBW: You as a Christian give Trumpism power in a democratic republic such as ours ¥ beagle9 ¥. You are ignoring the link between white Christian anti-abortion politics - Trump - Putin - Ukraine - and the anti-democracy movement in the world and white Republican Christian Americans who pray.

Trump’s latest on Truth Social

pro-Putin Satan himself snapped this photo

"Here we go!!! Just as I predicted, now we’re playing with the 'BIG STUFF,'" Trump wrote, referring to the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons. "The 'N' WORD is now being used, front and center. This situation was caused by us -- It’s what happens when you have incompetent people running your government. All I can say to you right now is, PRAY!"​

Trump blames America for Putin's latest nuclear threats: 'This situation was caused by us' 230327^1​

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[whutTHEYsay]

NFBW: Follow up to post 7952

White evangelicals have been Trump’s most dedicated, unwavering base, standing by him through the cavalcade of abuses, failures and scandals that engulfed his campaigns and his presidency — from the Access Hollywood tape to his first impeachment to his efforts to overturn the election and incite the Capitol Riot. This fervent relationship, which has survived the events of January 6th, is based on far more than a transactional handshake over judicial appointments and a crackdown on abortion and LGBTQ rights. Trump’s white evangelical base has come to believe that God anointed him and that Trump’s placement of Christian-right ideologues in critical positions at federal agencies and in federal courts was the fulfillment of a long-sought goal of restoring the United States as a Christian nation. Throughout Trump’s presidency, his political appointees implemented policies that stripped away reproductive and LGBTQ rights and tore down the separation of church and state in the name of protecting unfettered religious freedom for conservative Christians. After Joe Biden won the presidency, Trump administration loyalists launched their own Christian organization to “stop the steal,” in the ultimate act of loyalty to their divine leader. How the Christian Right Helped Foment Insurrection 230327^2​

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[whutTHEYsay]

You people do not have to be white or Christian to be white Christian nationalists.

 

[BackAgain]

You people do not have to be white or Christian to be white Christian nationalists.

You don’t have to have a brain to sound stupid.

It clearly assists you in that regard, in fact.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

You don’t have to have a brain to sound stupid.

Do you have a counterfactual argument to this statement?

Trump’s placement of Christian-right ideologues in critical positions at federal agencies and in federal courts was the fulfillment of a long-sought goal of restoring the United States as a Christian nation.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

You don’t have to have a brain to sound stupid.

NFBW: Does Basque sound stupid to you?

Basque190721-#5 ¥ basquebromance ¥ “where in history are there contributions made by minorities? there are none! “ •••• “Western Civilization is rooted in Western Europe, Eastern Europe, and The United White States of America, and every place where the footprint of Christianity settled the world!”

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[BackAgain]

Do you have a counterfactual argument to this statement?

Trump’s placement of Christian-right ideologues in critical positions at federal agencies and in federal courts was the fulfillment of a long-sought goal of restoring the United States as a Christian nation.

Do you have anything of any appreciable merit to say, ever?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

You don’t have to have a brain to sound stupid.

TRUMP March 25, 2023: "Here we go!!! Just as I predicted, now we’re playing with the 'BIG STUFF, The 'N' WORD is now being used, front and center. This situation was caused by us -- It’s what happens when you have incompetent people running your government. All I can say to you right now is, PRAY!" 230327^1

NFBW: Do you think Putin’s choice for US president in 2024 will be incompetence who won’t give him Ukrainian land or competence who says he will give Putin Ukrainian land as a reward barbaric terrorism he raged against Ukraine?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Do you have anything of any appreciable merit to say, ever?

I answer questions rather than avoid them.