Roe v. Wade getting overturned!!

[HeyNorm]

NFBE: Then tell me the reality of the authority that you have been given to speak for the unborn full well knowing that the unborn who are using another persons body in the present moment have no way to communicate with you in the reality of the physical universe.

And then you can tell me about the reality of the harm that comes to you or society if a woman in private aborts the other person who is using her body to survive long enough to complete its gestation or fetal stage of being human and alive .. you too HeyNorm

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What is strikingly different from a fetus, 1 day before the end of gestation and the day successful gestation is complete?

 

[HeyNorm]

On what authority does the government speak for the unborn while they are using another person body to exist at all? It’s not granted in the Constitution right?

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

The unborn are not born the last heard.

And this means what? Illegal aliens can be killed?

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

And this means what? Illegal aliens can be killed?

This is what he is saying yes - he is saying that non-citizens are not people and thus cannot be murdered, as they have no rights and there is no basis in law to protect them from harm.

That's not even a reductio ad Hitlerum, it's literally the meaning of what he is typing.

 

[HeyNorm]

This is what he is saying yes - he is saying that non-citizens are not people and thus cannot be murdered, as they have no rights and there is no basis in law to protect them from harm.

That's not even a reductio ad Hitlerum, it's literally the meaning of what he is typing.

They do indeed like to argue as though they believed in the teaching of the John Birch society and Adolph Hitler.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

And this means what? Illegal aliens can be killed?

NEVER because they are born so they have the same fundamental human rights as citizens all of them.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

They do indeed like to argue as though they believed in the teaching of the John Birch society and Adolph Hitler.

I am opposed to granting fascist theocratic government state authority to force full term pregnancy on women against their will, and sometimes against their need.

TGAT BE YOU

 

[HeyNorm]

NEVER because they are born so they have the same fundamental human rights as citizens all of them.

Your definitions change like the wind.

You claim one thing, then backtrack to fit your narritive.

 

[HeyNorm]

I am opposed to granting fascist theocratic government state authority to force full term pregnancy on women against their will, and sometimes against their need.

TGAT BE YOU

I am completely in agreement, but you are speaking of rape, which is illegal already.

 

[ding]

NFBW: It’s a natural human right and an inferred Constitutional right to privacy and equal protection because of the situation that exists between two competing individuals and their fundamental rights.

As in Jewish religion the granted human right defers to the most viable person in this case to the pregnant woman. It’s her body it’s her decision not the state of Mississippi? END2211301054

SCOTUS just ruled that it isn’t.

And you are all over the map again.

 

[ding]

That is why I suspect ding , sort of a Catholic won’t say what authority has been granted to him to speak for the unborn.
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I have none, dummy. And I already stated the authority. The states.

 

[ding]

On what authority does the government speak for the unborn while they are using another person body to exist at all? It’s not granted in the Constitution right?

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

The unborn are not born the last heard.

The constitution.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

NFBW221130-#6,020 On what authority does the government speak for the unborn while they are using another person body to exist at all?

ding221130-#6,031 The constitution.

NFBW: When and how does the Constitution itself speak. It says nothing about the unborn. It is a document of the born, by the born, and for the born. That’s the reality ding !!!!!

NFBW: What authority has been given to anti-abortion activists to speak on behalf of the unborn when they claim that the unborn want the government to intervene on their behalf against the will of a pregnant woman who wants to have a medical procedure that separates the unborn from a pregnant woman’s body?

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[ding]

NFBW221130-#6,020 On what authority does the government speak for the unborn while they are using another person body to exist at all?

ding221130-#6,031 The constitution.

NFBW: When and how does the Constitution itself speak. It says nothing about the unborn. It is a document of the born, by the born, and for the born. That’s the reality ding !!!!!

NFBW: What authority has been given to anti-abortion activists to speak on behalf of the unborn when they claim that the unborn want the government to intervene on their behalf against the will of a pregnant woman who wants to have a medical procedure that separates the unborn from a pregnant woman’s body?

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The 10th amendment.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

The 10th amendment.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

The Constitution’s silence is explicitly why it is a 10th Amendment matter… as anyone who didn’t flunk civics already knows.

 

[BackAgain]

Some rights, like the right to vote, are reserved to citizens.

Other rights, like the right to a fair trial by a jury of one’s peers, aren’t reserved to citizens but to all people here in America.

The Constitution isn’t exactly a puzzle box. Most of the things it says are clear and easily understandable. Some things may require a bit of interpretation. But the fact that it’s not ok to kill a foreign national isn’t open to any valid question.

Liberals are easily confused.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

ding221130-#6,033 The 10th amendment.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

NFBW: Here is the part of the constitution defines what “the people” are.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

The interest that the mother (citizen) has in protecting her bodily integrity and protecting her reproductive autonomy from government intrusion and incursion etc., outweighs her fetus’ right of inviolability unless what she does in a private family and health environment causes harm to the public and society when she does it.

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[CarsomyrPlusSix]

^
A bunch of incomprehensible gobbledegook, with no legal weight or relevance to the topic at hand.

Granted this could be a boilerplate response to anything this asshat says…

But yeah. Each state has its own constitution and its own way to amend that state constitution and the people of each state will vote on politicians - and, in some states amendments - accordingly to pass laws those states are allowed to pass by their constitutions.

If a matter isn’t federal, the states can set laws about it one way or the other. Abortion is not banned by the Constitution nor protected - the Constitution is silent. Full stop. That’s all that need be said.

It means that Congress has no power to pass laws lording over the jurisdiction of the states one way or the other and to do so would be flagrantly unconstitutional and tyrannnical. It means state legislatures may pass laws banning these homicides with criminal penalty, because they set the criminal law codes within their own jurisdiction.

Basic respect for human rights and ideas like equality and just basic humanity, civility, and decency actually demand the states do so. But then there are states full of barbaric filth, like California, whose people have no decency, humanity, or civility.

 

[HeyNorm]

ding221130-#6,033 The 10th amendment.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

NFBW: Here is the part of the constitution defines what “the people” are.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

The interest that the mother (citizen) has in protecting her bodily integrity and protecting her reproductive autonomy from government intrusion and incursion etc., outweighs her fetus’ right of inviolability unless what she does in a private family and health environment causes harm to the public and society when she does it.

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Unless she was raped, the above does not apply, unless you are of the opinion that women should not have the right to have sex because they are inferior intellectually.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

Unless she was raped, the above does not apply, unless you are of the opinion that women should not have the right to have sex because they are inferior intellectually.

It is quite the magic trick these leftoids attempt when calling others sexist while they want special treatment based on sex and their opponents want equality.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Cplus6221130-#6,034 The Constitution’s silence is explicitly why it is a 10th Amendment matter…

NFBW: The Constitution is not silent on the lawful definition of what a “person” who has protected rights including enumerated and unenumerated rights under the constitution in fact are.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States

please note a person must be born to be naturalized.

A pregnant woman has (and had the last one for fifty years) the following unenumerated rights as a citizen of the United States

Unenumerated (unwritten) rights include the right to travel, privacy, autonomy, dignity, and the right to have an abortion.

An unborn human living inside another separate person has none of those unenumerated rights granted to them by the Constitution.

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